Wouldn't it be more fun to DD a Chevy SS or the likes?Detroit wrote:I would only use it maybe once or twice a year too. There's NOTHING fun by me, but it would be a fun vehicle to have ZFG.Devilchrono wrote:
We've got a huge off-road park an hour or so from here where I could make a lot of use of the truck, but it's a place I'd only end up going to a couple times a year. Still, could be fun to have something like that for some of the areas around here though to just kinda NFG over parts of parking lots and shit like that
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I'd prefer to DD amaxtdi wrote:Wouldn't it be more fun to DD a Chevy SS or the likes?Detroit wrote: I would only use it maybe once or twice a year too. There's NOTHING fun by me, but it would be a fun vehicle to have ZFG.

But a ZR2 will be cheaper than that, and I do enjoy the absolute ZFGness of a truck. Our roads are horrific, and I truly never even notice in the truck. Plus, I'm one of the few that actually use the bed.
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There's little fun by me that doesn't require a fast car; the race track that does most of the Autocross, Track days and Drag racing is only about 30 minutes from me, but that's not really much fun anymore. There's some decent back roads through the wineries, so a nice convertible is honestly where it's at when it comes to "fun car" territory. With the truck though, I can get to some really nice fishing spots on the river even though I don't have a boat, and there's several conservation areas that are all gravel roads as well, so a truck is perfect. And then of course there's the parks and bike trails in the area worth hitting up soon that being able to just throw shit in the bed and go to/from with no issues is fantasticDetroit wrote:I would only use it maybe once or twice a year too. There's NOTHING fun by me, but it would be a fun vehicle to have ZFG.Devilchrono wrote:
We've got a huge off-road park an hour or so from here where I could make a lot of use of the truck, but it's a place I'd only end up going to a couple times a year. Still, could be fun to have something like that for some of the areas around here though to just kinda NFG over parts of parking lots and shit like that
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My favorite part of trucklyfeDevilchrono wrote:There's little fun by me that doesn't require a fast car; the race track that does most of the Autocross, Track days and Drag racing is only about 30 minutes from me, but that's not really much fun anymore. There's some decent back roads through the wineries, so a nice convertible is honestly where it's at when it comes to "fun car" territory. With the truck though, I can get to some really nice fishing spots on the river even though I don't have a boat, and there's several conservation areas that are all gravel roads as well, so a truck is perfect. And then of course there's the parks and bike trails in the area worth hitting up soon that being able to just throw shit in the bed and go to/from with no issues is fantasticDetroit wrote: I would only use it maybe once or twice a year too. There's NOTHING fun by me, but it would be a fun vehicle to have ZFG.
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I wants, I wonder if they would sell it for $27k..
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SixSpeeder wrote:I wants, I wonder if they would sell it for $27k..
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SixSpeeder wrote:I wants, I wonder if they would sell it for $27k..
http://www.dodgechryslerjeepofkirkland. ... G2HL509212
not sure if srs

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This makes no sense... 33k? It should be 26/27k msrp.SixSpeeder wrote:I wants, I wonder if they would sell it for $27k..
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This makes more sense... and there are
's on wranglers... they are not selling as well as they used to.
This makes more sense... and there are

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I don't know mang... a $40k truck after tax isn't exactly 0FG.Detroit wrote:I'd prefer to DD amaxtdi wrote:
Wouldn't it be more fun to DD a Chevy SS or the likes?SS in a perfect world for sure.
But a ZR2 will be cheaper than that, and I do enjoy the absolute ZFGness of a truck. Our roads are horrific, and I truly never even notice in the truck. Plus, I'm one of the few that actually use the bed.
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"New" 2018 model is probably keeping price pressure on as well.maxtdi wrote:http://www.dodgechryslerjeepofkirkland. ... G4HL545451
This makes more sense... and there are's on wranglers... they are not selling as well as they used to.
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I think the market is getting saturated by those wanting a plastic roofed vehicle with two solid axles for 40k OTD.Desertbreh wrote:"New" 2018 model is probably keeping price pressure on as well.maxtdi wrote:http://www.dodgechryslerjeepofkirkland. ... G4HL545451
This makes more sense... and there are's on wranglers... they are not selling as well as they used to.
230k units a year is nothing to sneeze at...
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Dat colormaxtdi wrote:http://www.dodgechryslerjeepofkirkland. ... G4HL545451
This makes more sense... and there are's on wranglers... they are not selling as well as they used to.

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Our local
run poverty spec specials on Wrangaylers. IMO if you just want the off road ability. You can pick up a JKU 4 whore auto for ~30k or so. Then you can throw a set of rubicunt wheels+tires on it for $800 and call it a day. Ppl are just giving those away on craigslist. Because parking hard at a mall is dat lyfe dawg.

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26k for a new one...
26k for a new one...
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Soft top SWB sucks doe.maxtdi wrote:http://www.sanleandrocdjr.com/new/Jeep/ ... 67b665.htm
26k for a new one...
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Yas. But that's what he posted for 33k.Desertbreh wrote:Soft top SWB sucks doe.maxtdi wrote:http://www.sanleandrocdjr.com/new/Jeep/ ... 67b665.htm
26k for a new one...

I personally would get the cheapest 4 door hard top money can buy for 30k.
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Yeah I have NO PROBLEM with the Sahara trim and in many instances find it more attractive that more expensive trims. The whole "Bro Moto" ramz has trickled into OEM. I think those black Rubicon RAMZ are fucking stupid looking.maxtdi wrote:Yas. But that's what he posted for 33k.Desertbreh wrote:
Soft top SWB sucks doe.![]()
I personally would get the cheapest 4 door hard top money can buy for 30k.
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Yea they areDesertbreh wrote:Yeah I have NO PROBLEM with the Sahara trim and in many instances find it more attractive that more expensive trims. The whole "Bro Moto" ramz has trickled into OEM. I think those black Rubicon RAMZ are fucking stupid looking.maxtdi wrote:
Yas. But that's what he posted for 33k.![]()
I personally would get the cheapest 4 door hard top money can buy for 30k.

Sahara is a very unfortunate trim, I like it the most but it is super expensive compared to a sport. I think a Wrangler over 40k doesn't make sense. Most 4 door saharas are 40. With a nice stereo+leather they are 42-43k.
I think just a regular sport +$800 Rubicunt take offs + $1000 stereo retrofit has you saving 10-12k. You can even get Katskinz leather for 1k or so. The options on the JKUs are just

My Issue with the jeep is the trans.
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The 5 speed auto is pretty 2001 tech. And not that smooth shifting.maxtdi wrote:Yea they areDesertbreh wrote:
Yeah I have NO PROBLEM with the Sahara trim and in many instances find it more attractive that more expensive trims. The whole "Bro Moto" ramz has trickled into OEM. I think those black Rubicon RAMZ are fucking stupid looking.![]()
Sahara is a very unfortunate trim, I like it the most but it is super expensive compared to a sport. I think a Wrangler over 40k doesn't make sense. Most 4 door saharas are 40. With a nice stereo+leather they are 42-43k.
I think just a regular sport +$800 Rubicunt take offs + $1000 stereo retrofit has you saving 10-12k. You can even get Katskinz leather for 1k or so. The options on the JKUs are just
My Issue with the jeep is the trans.
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The gear spacing just sucks... and the thing just feels semi underpowered due to the high rev-ing nature of the engine etc.Desertbreh wrote:The 5 speed auto is pretty 2001 tech. And not that smooth shifting.maxtdi wrote:
Yea they are![]()
Sahara is a very unfortunate trim, I like it the most but it is super expensive compared to a sport. I think a Wrangler over 40k doesn't make sense. Most 4 door saharas are 40. With a nice stereo+leather they are 42-43k.
I think just a regular sport +$800 Rubicunt take offs + $1000 stereo retrofit has you saving 10-12k. You can even get Katskinz leather for 1k or so. The options on the JKUs are just
My Issue with the jeep is the trans.
I know it is FCA just being


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$27 grand for a vehicle without power windows.maxtdi wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:27 pm http://www.sanleandrocdjr.com/new/Jeep/ ... 67b665.htm
26k for a new one...

Once you option it with, you know, 21st century standard equipment, you're quickly into

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Black Bear is the option package to buy. You can get the factory locker, lower gearing, and tires. Much less cost than a Rubicon and nearly as good off road.maxtdi wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:49 pmYea they areDesertbreh wrote:
Yeah I have NO PROBLEM with the Sahara trim and in many instances find it more attractive that more expensive trims. The whole "Bro Moto" ramz has trickled into OEM. I think those black Rubicon RAMZ are fucking stupid looking.![]()
Sahara is a very unfortunate trim, I like it the most but it is super expensive compared to a sport. I think a Wrangler over 40k doesn't make sense. Most 4 door saharas are 40. With a nice stereo+leather they are 42-43k.
I think just a regular sport +$800 Rubicunt take offs + $1000 stereo retrofit has you saving 10-12k. You can even get Katskinz leather for 1k or so. The options on the JKUs are just
My Issue with the jeep is the trans.
Sport S trim is where it's at otherwise. Just if you want to add off road stuff you're actually better off getting a standard package like that or the WIllys. The Sahara doesn't really give you much more than the Sport other than unlocking the option for leather.
But then you have the stupid


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My current truck was $43k, I drive it ZFG.maxtdi wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:44 pmI don't know mang... a $40k truck after tax isn't exactly 0FG.Detroit wrote: I'd prefer to DD aSS in a perfect world for sure.
But a ZR2 will be cheaper than that, and I do enjoy the absolute ZFGness of a truck. Our roads are horrific, and I truly never even notice in the truck. Plus, I'm one of the few that actually use the bed.