That's why I don't consult DFD before making car purchases.
Car Talk 6: Best of times and Worst of Times
- max225
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I was just somewhat surprised to see the universal GTI hate even though that’s how we all

But yea

- coogles
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They drive fine but the tech sucks, the safety nannies are excessive and the MK7 still looks better.
I would buy this any day over a new MK8.
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- Desertbreh
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Just add in some new wheels to the purchase price and I'm good with it.
- SAWCE
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I think he meant our gen, the MK6coogles wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 3:07 pmindeed
They drive fine but the tech sucks, the safety nannies are excessive and the MK7 still looks better.
I would buy this any day over a new MK8.
https://www.lafayettevwin.com/inventory ... 4mm000160/
- Desertbreh
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Nope Max is a Mk 8 fanboi. Coogs is realswitchesforlyfe.SAWCE wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 3:12 pmI think he meant our gen, the MK6coogles wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 3:07 pm
indeed
They drive fine but the tech sucks, the safety nannies are excessive and the MK7 still looks better.
I would buy this any day over a new MK8.
https://www.lafayettevwin.com/inventory ... 4mm000160/
- coogles
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Indeed. Putting money where my mouth is, we bought a 13k mile 2022 Atlas instead of buying a new one. The tech in new VWs is trash.Desertbreh wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 3:24 pmNope Max is a Mk 8 fanboi. Coogs is realswitchesforlyfe.
I'd say drive one!
National has them in their fleet and I keep missing my opportunity to get one as a rental, but hopefully I'll get a week long test soon.
FWIW I am one of the main talk outters here but I still think GTIs are good cars. It's fun, quick, comfortable, semi-luxe, decent looking. It's a solid choice, just like sort of boring in the context of a search conversation that included M2/3, 911, etc. when it started.
I mean, everyone here owned these when we were 22-26, it feels like the world has moved on but it doesn't have to. I drive a much MORE childish car now.
- max225
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Of course I went down the pyramid when faced with the reality that I may not be ready to park 70-160k in the garage and not use it. I kind of want to use this thingD Griff wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 3:37 pmI'd say drive one!
National has them in their fleet and I keep missing my opportunity to get one as a rental, but hopefully I'll get a week long test soon.
FWIW I am one of the main talk outters here but I still think GTIs are good cars. It's fun, quick, comfortable, semi-luxe, decent looking. It's a solid choice, just like sort of boring in the context of a search conversation that included M2/3, 911, etc. when it started.
I mean, everyone here owned these when we were 22-26, it feels like the world has moved on but it doesn't have to. I drive a much MORE childish car now.
Drive it and see what you think. I will also try to get into one as a rental. Unfortunately I think my next trip I will be relegated to an SUV due to needing to move some huge pelican cases of gear.max225 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 3:43 pmOf course I went down the pyramid when faced with the reality that I may not be ready to park 70-160k in the garage and not use it. I kind of want to use this thingD Griff wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 3:37 pm
I'd say drive one!
National has them in their fleet and I keep missing my opportunity to get one as a rental, but hopefully I'll get a week long test soon.
FWIW I am one of the main talk outters here but I still think GTIs are good cars. It's fun, quick, comfortable, semi-luxe, decent looking. It's a solid choice, just like sort of boring in the context of a search conversation that included M2/3, 911, etc. when it started.
I mean, everyone here owned these when we were 22-26, it feels like the world has moved on but it doesn't have to. I drive a much MORE childish car now.
GTI is fun on the daily.
It's kinda NFG
You're going to lose on 99.9% of the vehicles you buy.
Embrace the suck, feed the soul.

- J-Ho-Fo-Show69
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In my spare time, I’ve been coming up with obituaries for people. Here is one for you Max:
RIP Max DFD (19-something - 2055)
The world mourns the tragic loss (or maybe not?) of DFD Max, who has finally made a decision—though, ironically, not one he had much say in. After years of painstakingly debating which car to buy next, and whether to turn left or right at that intersection, fate has stepped in to make the ultimate choice for him.
DFD Max was a man of many passions, but none greater than his love for cars. Unfortunately, that love often translated into endless hours of research, test drives, and price comparisons, only to ultimately keep driving his old, “perfectly fine” EV sedan. Car dealerships across the city will now see a drastic dip in foot traffic, as their most indecisive visitor is no longer around to “think about it and come back next week.”
He leaves behind a trail of abandoned online shopping carts, half-finished projects, and friends who are still waiting for him to decide what car to buy.
Services will be held sometime next week… or maybe the week after. We’ll let you know once we figure it out. In lieu of flowers, please send a strongly worded message encouraging him to finally commit—to anything.
His last words were fuck Toyota and I should have gotten a 911.
Rest easy, DFD Max. Or don’t. Up to you.
RIP Max DFD (19-something - 2055)
The world mourns the tragic loss (or maybe not?) of DFD Max, who has finally made a decision—though, ironically, not one he had much say in. After years of painstakingly debating which car to buy next, and whether to turn left or right at that intersection, fate has stepped in to make the ultimate choice for him.
DFD Max was a man of many passions, but none greater than his love for cars. Unfortunately, that love often translated into endless hours of research, test drives, and price comparisons, only to ultimately keep driving his old, “perfectly fine” EV sedan. Car dealerships across the city will now see a drastic dip in foot traffic, as their most indecisive visitor is no longer around to “think about it and come back next week.”
He leaves behind a trail of abandoned online shopping carts, half-finished projects, and friends who are still waiting for him to decide what car to buy.
Services will be held sometime next week… or maybe the week after. We’ll let you know once we figure it out. In lieu of flowers, please send a strongly worded message encouraging him to finally commit—to anything.
His last words were fuck Toyota and I should have gotten a 911.
Rest easy, DFD Max. Or don’t. Up to you.
- max225
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Dude this hit in the feels in a bad wayJ-Ho-Fo-Show69 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 4:05 pm In my spare time, I’ve been coming up with obituaries for people. Here is one for you Max:
RIP Max DFD (19-something - 2055)
The world mourns the tragic loss (or maybe not?) of DFD Max, who has finally made a decision—though, ironically, not one he had much say in. After years of painstakingly debating which car to buy next, and whether to turn left or right at that intersection, fate has stepped in to make the ultimate choice for him.
DFD Max was a man of many passions, but none greater than his love for cars. Unfortunately, that love often translated into endless hours of research, test drives, and price comparisons, only to ultimately keep driving his old, “perfectly fine” EV sedan. Car dealerships across the city will now see a drastic dip in foot traffic, as their most indecisive visitor is no longer around to “think about it and come back next week.”
He leaves behind a trail of abandoned online shopping carts, half-finished projects, and friends who are still waiting for him to decide what car to buy.
Services will be held sometime next week… or maybe the week after. We’ll let you know once we figure it out. In lieu of flowers, please send a strongly worded message encouraging him to finally commit—to anything.
His last words were fuck Toyota and I should have gotten a 911.
Rest easy, DFD Max. Or don’t. Up to you.

- J-Ho-Fo-Show69
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I got you man. I know. Buy the 911! It was half a joke, and half seriousmax225 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 4:08 pmDude this hit in the feels in a bad wayJ-Ho-Fo-Show69 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 4:05 pm In my spare time, I’ve been coming up with obituaries for people. Here is one for you Max:
RIP Max DFD (19-something - 2055)
The world mourns the tragic loss (or maybe not?) of DFD Max, who has finally made a decision—though, ironically, not one he had much say in. After years of painstakingly debating which car to buy next, and whether to turn left or right at that intersection, fate has stepped in to make the ultimate choice for him.
DFD Max was a man of many passions, but none greater than his love for cars. Unfortunately, that love often translated into endless hours of research, test drives, and price comparisons, only to ultimately keep driving his old, “perfectly fine” EV sedan. Car dealerships across the city will now see a drastic dip in foot traffic, as their most indecisive visitor is no longer around to “think about it and come back next week.”
He leaves behind a trail of abandoned online shopping carts, half-finished projects, and friends who are still waiting for him to decide what car to buy.
Services will be held sometime next week… or maybe the week after. We’ll let you know once we figure it out. In lieu of flowers, please send a strongly worded message encouraging him to finally commit—to anything.
His last words were fuck Toyota and I should have gotten a 911.
Rest easy, DFD Max. Or don’t. Up to you.it’s good but it’s bad if you know what I mean