Car Talk 6: Best of times and Worst of Times

[CaleDeRoo]

I would pick that over a new M2 every time.

For some reason I thought these were all deep six figures unobtanium because limited production p-car.

Interesting.....

The pre facelift with the 3.8 is worth less because ZOMG 4.0L IZ SPECIAL

[ChrisoftheNorth]

For some reason I thought these were all deep six figures unobtanium because limited production p-car.

Interesting.....

The pre facelift with the 3.8 is worth less because ZOMG 4.0L IZ SPECIAL

I'd just like an NA Porsche, especially a Spyder

[max225]

I would pick that over a new M2 every time.

For some reason I thought these were all deep six figures unobtanium because limited production p-car.

Interesting.....

Well 88k + BAT fee... is still close to 100k.... and its almost 10 years old. Tread carefully. You get unobtanium P car parts with that one also.

[CaleDeRoo]

The pre facelift with the 3.8 is worth less because ZOMG 4.0L IZ SPECIAL

I'd just like an NA Porsche, especially a Spyder

I'm with you. I rented a 981 years ago and the intake/mechanical noise was incredible. The spider looks fucking amazing but the 981 is so good in every way I don't think I'd want to limit it's usability by getting one with that roof.

[coogles]

Sports car life is over for me breh.

Yeah. And there’s not many cars that have manuals anymore. So your pickings are super slim. Well then the solution is clearly a 4 door bronco.

New car can't be anyway. Thanks

about the Bronco, doe. Not my bag.

[max225]

The pre facelift with the 3.8 is worth less because ZOMG 4.0L IZ SPECIAL

I'd just like an NA Porsche, especially a Spyder

Why not just get a Boxster GTS 4.slow? I think the SPYDDERR carries a wild premium for essentially nothing. But it is a cOlLeCtiBlE so it may keep long term depreciation down a bit... IMO the newer with porsche the better still.

[max225]

Sports car life is over for me breh.

Yeah. And there’s not many cars that have manuals anymore. So your pickings are super slim. Well then the solution is clearly a 4 door bronco.

I think that's not really true... quite a few manuals are currently available. Matter of fact post plandemic there has been a bit of a renaissance in vehicles

[D Griff]

Shit, these things can be had in my budget... https://carsandbids.com/auctions/9XDYE2 ... ter-spyder

THis is like the best GIF ever, how have I not seen?

[max225]

I think that’s where the “for the money” argument comes in

but he said pinnacle sports car... I get the argument that hyper cars and such aren't really sports cars, hence the Spyder. That is pretty pinnacle to me. I do think there's an argument for a Lotus though. I'm on the C8 as they're quite big and edging more to the super car area, but Corvettes also. Having owned a Miata and a Corvette, the Corvette was just like... a fast Miata. I think if given the opportunity, I'd get a Corvette again before a Miata. I'm also tall

Yea I think "pinnacle" sports car would be something like a GT3 or GT3 RS or ST but IMO they are not worth their asking prices and feel too fragile/special to enjoy without being a billionaire. Which is why I think a Miata/BRZ86 and maybe even a low level boxster are true enjoyable sports cars along with the "///M" squad.

[D Griff]

I would pick that over a new M2 every time.

For some reason I thought these were all deep six figures unobtanium because limited production p-car.

Interesting.....

The Boxster is the way unless you just really want a 911 because you want a 911. I've never driven a 911 though, so probably

I will agree with Johnny though, the shifter feel in Porsches is ass. Come at me.

[D Griff]

I'd just like an NA Porsche, especially a Spyder

Why not just get a Boxster GTS 4.slow? I think the SPYDDERR carries a wild premium for essentially nothing. But it is a cOlLeCtiBlE so it may keep long term depreciation down a bit... IMO the newer with porsche the better still.

Those are incredible and I'd probably go with a newer one of those for the same price for less headache if you actually want to drive it.

Agreed on the , sales of new have more than doubled in recent years.

[golftdibrad1]

Miata is the pinicle sports car, every one else can just quit. anything better is a racing car

Is that your redneck ass stretching your tummy behind the car?

lol no that's my buddy Ben

[golftdibrad1]

Shit, these things can be had in my budget... https://carsandbids.com/auctions/9XDYE2 ... ter-spyder

you can get them for way less. don't necessarily want a low miles one that sat alot

[ChrisoftheNorth]

I'd just like an NA Porsche, especially a Spyder

Why not just get a Boxster GTS 4.slow? I think the SPYDDERR carries a wild premium for essentially nothing. But it is a cOlLeCtiBlE so it may keep long term depreciation down a bit... IMO the newer with porsche the better still.

Never shopped them, so maybe?

Also claims Boxsters aren't "real Porsches" so she might kill it TBH. The Spyder could be sold as a "Porsche Spyder" as it says on the rear, and I do think they look better than regular Boxsters.

I think I'd rather have an M4 convertible than a Boxster I'd love an E90 M3 vert, but the engine scares me. Rod bearings shouldn't be a wear item.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Shit, these things can be had in my budget... https://carsandbids.com/auctions/9XDYE2 ... ter-spyder

you can get them for way less. don't necessarily want a low miles one that sat alot

IDGAF about miles as long as the thing was well cared for...within reason.

I like using auction sites to help frame up value ranges, indeed they tend to be on the high end.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

For some reason I thought these were all deep six figures unobtanium because limited production p-car.

Interesting.....

The Boxster is the way unless you just really want a 911 because you want a 911. I've never driven a 911 though, so probably

I will agree with Johnny though, the shifter feel in Porsches is ass. Come at me.

I've just always wanted one. I've driven a 996 and 997 in the past and really enjoyed them. Worth the hype? Depends.

Shifters are fine, but nothing spectacular. Same with BMW. Japanese get shifters right for some reason.

[max225]

Why not just get a Boxster GTS 4.slow? I think the SPYDDERR carries a wild premium for essentially nothing. But it is a cOlLeCtiBlE so it may keep long term depreciation down a bit... IMO the newer with porsche the better still.

Never shopped them, so maybe?

Also claims Boxsters aren't "real Porsches" so she might kill it TBH. The Spyder could be sold as a "Porsche Spyder" as it says on the rear, and I do think they look better than regular Boxsters.

I think I'd rather have an M4 convertible than a Boxster I'd love an E90 M3 vert, but the engine scares me. Rod bearings shouldn't be a wear item.

My is the same way. “Why are they so ugly” “why not get a 911”

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Never shopped them, so maybe?

Also claims Boxsters aren't "real Porsches" so she might kill it TBH. The Spyder could be sold as a "Porsche Spyder" as it says on the rear, and I do think they look better than regular Boxsters.

I think I'd rather have an M4 convertible than a Boxster I'd love an E90 M3 vert, but the engine scares me. Rod bearings shouldn't be a wear item.

My is the same way. “Why are they so ugly” “why not get a 911”

"Why not get a 911" Exactly her response.

[Johnny_P]

My is the same way. “Why are they so ugly” “why not get a 911”

"Why not get a 911" Exactly her response.

[Johnny_P]

Yeah. And there’s not many cars that have manuals anymore. So your pickings are super slim. Well then the solution is clearly a 4 door bronco.

New car can't be anyway. Thanks

about the Bronco, doe. Not my bag.

Sorry. I keep forgetting that.
I dunno I love my departure from sporty / fun cars. I’m actually more inclined to go drive somewhere now.

[CaleDeRoo]

Why not just get a Boxster GTS 4.slow? I think the SPYDDERR carries a wild premium for essentially nothing. But it is a cOlLeCtiBlE so it may keep long term depreciation down a bit... IMO the newer with porsche the better still.

Never shopped them, so maybe?

Also claims Boxsters aren't "real Porsches" so she might kill it TBH. The Spyder could be sold as a "Porsche Spyder" as it says on the rear, and I do think they look better than regular Boxsters.

I think I'd rather have an M4 convertible than a Boxster I'd love an E90 M3 vert, but the engine scares me. Rod bearings shouldn't be a wear item.

That exhaust not with the roof down though. Spend the $1000 for a bearing job every 60k miles and

[max225]

Why not just get a Boxster GTS 4.slow? I think the SPYDDERR carries a wild premium for essentially nothing. But it is a cOlLeCtiBlE so it may keep long term depreciation down a bit... IMO the newer with porsche the better still.

Never shopped them, so maybe?

Also claims Boxsters aren't "real Porsches" so she might kill it TBH. The Spyder could be sold as a "Porsche Spyder" as it says on the rear, and I do think they look better than regular Boxsters.

I think I'd rather have an M4 convertible than a Boxster I'd love an E90 M3 vert, but the engine scares me. Rod bearings shouldn't be a wear item.

Don’t forget the throttle actuators, the 15mpg and tiny tank, the 10w60 oil and the oil consumption.

[J-Ho-Fo-Show69]

New car can't be anyway. Thanks

about the Bronco, doe. Not my bag.

Sorry. I keep forgetting that.
I dunno I love my departure from sporty / fun cars. I’m actually more inclined to go drive somewhere now.

This is the way Johnny!! Sporty is fun, but dammit do I love bopping around in my wrangler.

[CaleDeRoo]

My is the same way. “Why are they so ugly” “why not get a 911”

"Why not get a 911" Exactly her response.

TWO TRUNKS

[fledonfoot]

Sorry. I keep forgetting that.
I dunno I love my departure from sporty / fun cars. I’m actually more inclined to go drive somewhere now.

This is the way Johnny!! Sporty is fun, but dammit do I love bopping around in my wrangler.

I’ve recently added a third car to the fleet for the first time in my life, now I can realistically afford it. In the past I’ve had fun dailies… but they’re all compromise cars and I get tired of the compromise and bail out.

Now the fleet is the Prius Prime for my commute, the Miata for the weekends and nice days to work… and the wife drives our JLUR soft top. The Wrangler drove me to the Miata. I love driving that thing with the roof off and being able to do it in a sports car is sublime.