Car Talk 6: Best of times and Worst of Times

[goIftdibrad]

I love Camisa's stuff too. He has a sweet 16v Scirocco, and a nice cabby too. my hearts.

[CaleDeRoo]

Jason Camisa is the only guy who I somewhat trust on driving dynamics. Everyone else tends to blow a lot of hot smoke up peoples YouTube’s.

I always take those reviews with a grain of

Also Cammisa also usually loops in Randy Pobst for driving impressions, who is a certified GOAT on the track.

Don't need to see out the back of your 2.0T Camaro when you're infront of everyone.

[D Griff]

Also Cammisa also usually loops in Randy Pobst for driving impressions, who is a certified GOAT on the track.

Don't need to see out the back of your 2.0T Camaro when you're infront of everyone.

[fledonfoot]

Toyota rejected the order for the GR86 today. 6MT Premium cars are still blocked by the CAT and NY region distributors. Their system outright cancels orders the regions don't preference.

GSM at my old dealership carries some sway with the region. He's making a call to the region but it looks like I'm going to have to settle for a base model, or look to source a car >5 hours away.

[coogles]

Toyota rejected the order for the GR86 today. 6MT Premium cars are still blocked by the CAT and NY region distributors. Their system outright cancels orders the regions don't preference.

GSM at my old dealership carries some sway with the region. He's making a call to the region but it looks like I'm going to have to settle for a base model, or look to source a car >5 hours away.

[D Griff]

Toyota rejected the order for the GR86 today. 6MT Premium cars are still blocked by the CAT and NY region distributors. Their system outright cancels orders the regions don't preference.

GSM at my old dealership carries some sway with the region. He's making a call to the region but it looks like I'm going to have to settle for a base model, or look to source a car >5 hours away.

When I try to build/spec/view inventory on Toyota's site, it just says that this car is unavailable.

For some reason I was starting to get impatient yesterday and just wanted to try to buy, I really need to just continue being patient and get one in 2023 or so.

[wap]

Toyota rejected the order for the GR86 today. 6MT Premium cars are still blocked by the CAT and NY region distributors. Their system outright cancels orders the regions don't preference.

GSM at my old dealership carries some sway with the region. He's making a call to the region but it looks like I'm going to have to settle for a base model, or look to source a car >5 hours away.

[fledonfoot]

Toyota rejected the order for the GR86 today. 6MT Premium cars are still blocked by the CAT and NY region distributors. Their system outright cancels orders the regions don't preference.

GSM at my old dealership carries some sway with the region. He's making a call to the region but it looks like I'm going to have to settle for a base model, or look to source a car >5 hours away.

When I try to build/spec/view inventory on Toyota's site, it just says that this car is unavailable.

For some reason I was starting to get impatient yesterday and just wanted to try to buy, I really need to just continue being patient and get one in 2023 or so.

They’re only building a handful of cars in Premium trim in general, and the vast majority are automatics. It looks like only 20-30% of premiums are MT cars…

The mid December allocation dropped today and nationwide only about 70 premium models in it out of about 350 cars for the nation. Of the 350, only 15 in Neptune.

There is apparently one allocation in Seattle in Neptune, premium, and not showing pre-sold.

Phone calls are being made to attempt a dealer trade/port swap. We’ll see.

[Desertbreh]

When I try to build/spec/view inventory on Toyota's site, it just says that this car is unavailable.

For some reason I was starting to get impatient yesterday and just wanted to try to buy, I really need to just continue being patient and get one in 2023 or so.

They’re only building a handful of cars in Premium trim in general, and the vast majority are automatics. It looks like only 20-30% of premiums are MT cars…

The mid December allocation dropped today and nationwide only about 70 premium models in it out of about 350 cars for the nation. Of the 350, only 15 in Neptune.

There is apparently one allocation in Seattle in Neptune, premium, and not showing pre-sold.

Phone calls are being made to attempt a dealer trade/port swap. We’ll see.

[Desertbreh]

Also, with a price delta of 3 grand I have no idea why the base model is even being made.

[fledonfoot]

Also, with a price delta of 3 grand I have no idea why the base model is even being made.

Chip shortages

[D Griff]

Also, with a price delta of 3 grand I have no idea why the base model is even being made.

Chip shortages

Makes sense I guess, I was wondering the same thing. I am also confused on all of this, like I would imagine 50%+ of 86 buyers would want manual and Neptune blue

[Desertbreh]

Also, with a price delta of 3 grand I have no idea why the base model is even being made.

Chip shortages

What a time to be alive. "2022 Throwback Edition with Crank Windows."

[max225]

Sort of curious, does Toyota do actual "orders" on the BRZ as it is shared with subaru ? Or is it the same old allocation game. Same goes for the supra I suppose. Can you spec one and have a dealer get it for you. Or do you have to scavenge the country for something that "matches" across 6 states and has markup in a showroom with a red bow on it.

[fledonfoot]

Sort of curious, does Toyota do actual "orders" on the BRZ as it is shared with subaru ? Or is it the same old allocation game. Same goes for the supra I suppose. Can you spec one and have a dealer get it for you. Or do you have to scavenge the country for something that "matches" across 6 states and has markup in a showroom with a red bow on it.

Same old game. You can spec a base or premium and select the trans.

All of the accessories listed are port installed. If you get an allocation before they hit port that’s when you can make your changes…. Which is the same as it is for all Toyota product.

Dealers are able to place “sold orders” but if the region doesn’t import it, you’re beat. All of my stores I have connections for won’t be able to get Premium MTs until they allow it to be preferenced. Apparently by the late spring they will open to order in my regions.

I’ve just got a text from my old DSPM asking if the canceled order was really for me or not... Looks like something’s cooking, hopefully.

[Tar]

Cammie are in!

[Tar]

Dat offroad

[razr390]

Dat offroad

I want a Camry

[Tar]

Dat offroad

I want a Camry

Camry with winter setup is the new mall crawler Heep! I don't want to get all excited and shit, and I know it's an old man's car but a part of me is to get this fuel miser already.

[D Griff]

Cammie are in!

I saw a silver Cammie Hybrid in my neighborhood walking the this morning. It looked pretty but the wheels on it were pretty meh. I like the meats.

[max225]

I saw a silver Cammie Hybrid in my neighborhood walking the this morning. It looked pretty but the wheels on it were pretty meh. I like the meats.

I actually want to go down to 16s on the R53 but 16" tire sizes are kinda slim.

And I wanted to go down to 17"s the F56 and it's a shit show also. I suppose I can always throw on a set of OEM ugly ramz if I cared enough about modding

[D Griff]

I had the C5Z front set square on my Corvette because 17" tires were way less expensive, but the options for wide 17s were pretty darn slim as well compared to 18s.

[max225]

And I wanted to go down to 17"s the F56 and it's a shit show also. I suppose I can always throw on a set of OEM ugly ramz if I cared enough about modding

Well, that's really due to the brake setup on the JCW.

There are some good tire choices for 17s, though, and there are some wheels out there that fit the JCW brakes.

I always liked these, and they fit OE centercaps:

Yea these are

I didn't have issues with the 215/18 tire size I think it's the same one that comes/came stock on the BRZ. Love my contis on there, but I am anti giant wheels. So I hate the 18s on the mini they need to be 17"s tops and probably 16s.

[fledonfoot]

Strings have been pulled.

Somehow the available car heading to Seattle hasn't got on the ship yet and is still in Japan... It's being diverted from the boat to Portland to the next ship heading to the East Coast.

Contacts at the region got the block on MT Premiums sorted out to transfer it into the dealership's mid-December allocation cycle this morning and everything locked in this lunchtime. I should have a delivery window next week.

[max225]

Strings have been pulled.

Somehow the available car heading to Seattle hasn't got on the ship yet and is still in Japan... It's being diverted from the boat to Portland to the next ship heading to the East Coast.

Contacts at the region got the block on MT Premiums sorted out to transfer it into the dealership's mid-December allocation cycle this morning and everything locked in this lunchtime. I should have a delivery window next week.

wonder if someone who has their name on a “list” in Seattle will cry himself to sleep tonight.