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troyguitar wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:02 pm This kind of crap has been my biggest issue with buying anything new. It's hard to justify it when other people are going to ruin the thing unless you never drive it.
You just have to accept that 12 bucket method and 9 layers of ceramic coating are pointless for a DD. Cars get used... you can do 10 years of DDing and the car will slowly get worn out with dings and damages. Such is life.

Nothing new is “collectible” anyways so :whocares: enjoy it, until it turns into a pile which is a ways away.
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:25 pm Drove a 2019 Camaro today. No issues with the windows. @me I dare you
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With the mirrors adjusted correctly, visibility isn't as big of a deal as people make it out to be. But it still feels claustrophobic inside.
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FJ Cruiser pricing is all over the place. Something with 100k miles can either be $15k or $25k depending on who is selling.

Fleds ‘yota dillership has a green one that I might see about test driving if it’s still around this weekend. Never driven one and want to see what they’re like behind the wheel. Could be a :neat: thing instead of an early JK. :iono:
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Apex wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:26 am FJ Cruiser pricing is all over the place. Something with 100k miles can either be $15k or $25k depending on who is selling.

Fleds ‘yota dillership has a green one that I might see about test driving if it’s still around this weekend. Never driven one and want to see what they’re like behind the wheel. Could be a :neat: thing instead of an early JK. :iono:
I fell in love with the FJ when they first came out. I was a writer and had a few press loaners, they're really awesome vehicles.

Only thing is I missed the open air element. For a toy, to me open air is critical. Otherwise, they're awesome...just seem to be a tad overvalued like everything in its class these days.
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Detroit wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:38 am
Apex wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:26 am FJ Cruiser pricing is all over the place. Something with 100k miles can either be $15k or $25k depending on who is selling.

Fleds ‘yota dillership has a green one that I might see about test driving if it’s still around this weekend. Never driven one and want to see what they’re like behind the wheel. Could be a :neat: thing instead of an early JK. :iono:
I fell in love with the FJ when they first came out. I was a writer and had a few press loaners, they're really awesome vehicles.

Only thing is I missed the open air element. For a toy, to me open air is critical. Otherwise, they're awesome...just seem to be a tad overvalued like everything in its class these days.
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Agreed on the value part; I hadn’t looked at them because everything under 200k miles was 20 or 30k+ not too long ago. Seems some people are getting closer with prices in the low to mid teens, which isn’t terribad for the segment.
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CorvetteWaxer wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:51 pm
troyguitar wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:02 pm This kind of crap has been my biggest issue with buying anything new. It's hard to justify it when other people are going to ruin the thing unless you never drive it.
I avoid this shit by parking away, but more importantly picking the right spot. One next to a planter, and hugging it so close another 2mm would be curbing your wheels, or a extra wide spot, every lot has a few. Also, I look for one with no trees so the birds don't shit on it.

Sucks man, but it looks like that scrape will likely buff right out.
Whenever I do this, I find that 40% of the people parking next to me park according to where MY CAR is not where the lines for the spot are.
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Detroit wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:38 am
Apex wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:26 am FJ Cruiser pricing is all over the place. Something with 100k miles can either be $15k or $25k depending on who is selling.

Fleds ‘yota dillership has a green one that I might see about test driving if it’s still around this weekend. Never driven one and want to see what they’re like behind the wheel. Could be a :neat: thing instead of an early JK. :iono:
I fell in love with the FJ when they first came out. I was a writer and had a few press loaners, they're really awesome vehicles.

Only thing is I missed the open air element. For a toy, to me open air is critical. Otherwise, they're awesome...just seem to be a tad overvalued like everything in its class these days.
My issue with them is that they aren't really good quality inside.

My friend has a school bus yellow version he bought new and after the first year with a few times going on not exactly extreme trails it was a rattle trap inside.
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CorvetteWaxer wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:50 am
Detroit wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:38 am
I fell in love with the FJ when they first came out. I was a writer and had a few press loaners, they're really awesome vehicles.

Only thing is I missed the open air element. For a toy, to me open air is critical. Otherwise, they're awesome...just seem to be a tad overvalued like everything in its class these days.
My issue with them is that they aren't really good quality inside.

My friend has a school bus yellow version he bought new and after the first year with a few times going on not exactly extreme trails it was a rattle trap inside.
How would you compare it to your JK?
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razr390 wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:45 am
CorvetteWaxer wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:51 pm

I avoid this shit by parking away, but more importantly picking the right spot. One next to a planter, and hugging it so close another 2mm would be curbing your wheels, or a extra wide spot, every lot has a few. Also, I look for one with no trees so the birds don't shit on it.

Sucks man, but it looks like that scrape will likely buff right out.
Whenever I do this, I find that 40% of the people parking next to me park according to where MY CAR is not where the lines for the spot are.
That is a real thing as well.

I swear, as I get older I'm more and more tempted to carry a church key to go apeshit on cars. I never thought I would feel that way, but today there are way more inconsiderate assholes that don't know how to drive/park, or what's going on around them.

For those that are wondering what a Church Key is... here you go:

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Apex wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:52 am
CorvetteWaxer wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:50 am

My issue with them is that they aren't really good quality inside.

My friend has a school bus yellow version he bought new and after the first year with a few times going on not exactly extreme trails it was a rattle trap inside.
How would you compare it to your JK?
The JK was more solid for sure. The only issue I had with my JK was the center console liked to come loose at the front from the way the carpet was tucked up under it. The FJ seems to have issues in the pillars and dash that are more ear level and drive me crazy.

Also, these were my comments based on a new one and what it costs. I didn't see the value. However, at a low price under $20k I could overlook a lot of that since a good JK is more.
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razr390 wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:45 am Whenever I do this, I find that 40% of the people parking next to me park according to where MY CAR is not where the lines for the spot are.
That is a real thing as well.

I swear, as I get older I'm more and more tempted to carry a church key to go apeshit on cars. I never thought I would feel that way, but today there are way more inconsiderate assholes that don't know how to drive/park, or what's going on around them.

For those that are wondering what a Church Key is... here you go:

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Just put your silencer on and punch a few holes in them.
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troyguitar wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:55 am
CorvetteWaxer wrote:
That is a real thing as well.

I swear, as I get older I'm more and more tempted to carry a church key to go apeshit on cars. I never thought I would feel that way, but today there are way more inconsiderate assholes that don't know how to drive/park, or what's going on around them.

For those that are wondering what a Church Key is... here you go:

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Just put your silencer on and punch a few holes in them.
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CorvetteWaxer wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:54 am
Apex wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:52 am

How would you compare it to your JK?
The JK was more solid for sure. The only issue I had with my JK was the center console liked to come loose at the front from the way the carpet was tucked up under it. The FJ seems to have issues in the pillars and dash that are more ear level and drive me crazy.

Also, these were my comments based on a new one and what it costs. I didn't see the value. However, at a low price under $20k I could overlook a lot of that since a good JK is more.
Appreciate the insight!
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troyguitar wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:55 am
CorvetteWaxer wrote:
That is a real thing as well.

I swear, as I get older I'm more and more tempted to carry a church key to go apeshit on cars. I never thought I would feel that way, but today there are way more inconsiderate assholes that don't know how to drive/park, or what's going on around them.

For those that are wondering what a Church Key is... here you go:

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Just put your silencer on and punch a few holes in them.
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CorvetteWaxer wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:53 am
razr390 wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:45 am
Whenever I do this, I find that 40% of the people parking next to me park according to where MY CAR is not where the lines for the spot are.
That is a real thing as well.

I swear, as I get older I'm more and more tempted to carry a church key to go apeshit on cars. I never thought I would feel that way, but today there are way more inconsiderate assholes that don't know how to drive/park, or what's going on around them.

For those that are wondering what a Church Key is... here you go:

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Just wear riveted jeans and make sure you let them know how close to you they parked by how you struggled to get into your car.

Not as malicious as a church key
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razr390 wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:09 am
Just wear riveted jeans and make sure you let them know how close to you they parked by how you struggled to get into your car.

Not as malicious as a church key
Maybe just go Bedazzled?

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That's a severe departure from my normal style, but it might be worth it. :lolol:
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Detroit wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:15 am
CaleDeRoo wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:25 pm Drove a 2019 Camaro today. No issues with the windows. @me I dare you
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With the mirrors adjusted correctly, visibility isn't as big of a deal as people make it out to be. But it still feels claustrophobic inside.
For someone your size I can see this. The rec match paddles are :fullretard: though. I kept hitting them by accident after shifting.
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:15 am
Detroit wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:15 am
With the mirrors adjusted correctly, visibility isn't as big of a deal as people make it out to be. But it still feels claustrophobic inside.
For someone your size I can see this. The rec match paddles are :fullretard: though. I kept hitting them by accident after shifting.
Something you don't do after a couple days.

On my Z51 I hit them a couple times, but mainly because I wasn't used to anything with "shift paddles", especially not a manual transmission car. After that, you pretty much forget about them.
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razr390 wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:09 am
CorvetteWaxer wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:53 am

That is a real thing as well.

I swear, as I get older I'm more and more tempted to carry a church key to go apeshit on cars. I never thought I would feel that way, but today there are way more inconsiderate assholes that don't know how to drive/park, or what's going on around them.

For those that are wondering what a Church Key is... here you go:

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Just wear riveted jeans and make sure you let them know how close to you they parked by how you struggled to get into your car.

Not as malicious as a church key
Y’all are assuming mouth breathers are going to take notice of any scratches you put on their pos cAmry. They :aintcare: , they will probably barely see a missing bumper.
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CorvetteWaxer wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:51 pm
troyguitar wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:02 pm This kind of crap has been my biggest issue with buying anything new. It's hard to justify it when other people are going to ruin the thing unless you never drive it.
I avoid this shit by parking away, but more importantly picking the right spot. One next to a planter, and hugging it so close another 2mm would be curbing your wheels, or a extra wide spot, every lot has a few. Also, I look for one with no trees so the birds don't shit on it.

Sucks man, but it looks like that scrape will likely buff right out.
THis is what I do, not always possible but I am willing to walk as far as I need to in most cases to keep things safe. They do still take dings and scratches here and there, but you can definitely minimize it.
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D Griff wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:35 am
CorvetteWaxer wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:51 pm

I avoid this shit by parking away, but more importantly picking the right spot. One next to a planter, and hugging it so close another 2mm would be curbing your wheels, or a extra wide spot, every lot has a few. Also, I look for one with no trees so the birds don't shit on it.

Sucks man, but it looks like that scrape will likely buff right out.
THis is what I do, not always possible but I am willing to walk as far as I need to in most cases to keep things safe. They do still take dings and scratches here and there, but you can definitely minimize it.

Yeah, I forgot to mention that I usually back into a spot if the curb/planter is on the right, so that I don't have to go between the other car to get in/out.
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Rental in Vegas was a brand new 2020 Hyundai Elantra from Alamo. Side note, Alamo was awesome and I'd get another vehicle from them, you get to pick the car out of the lineup and all. It was this or a handful of Sentras so it was an easy pick.

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This car didn't suck. It's slow and passing power doesn't exist. 2400 RPM at 80 MPH. Averaged 41 MPG for the 500 miles I had it. Held its own on a back road and was still fun to drive. Good ride quality. Super quiet on the highway for a cheap car. Top notch infotainment, worked better than any system I've tried using.

Solid entry in the compact cheap car segment. Enjoyable, if forgettable, car.
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The slated H vehicles are far from the bottom of the pickins' these days, I've rented a few and thought similarly. They have come an :impressive: distance.
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Johnny_P wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:59 am Rental in Vegas was a brand new 2020 Hyundai Elantra from Alamo. Side note, Alamo was awesome and I'd get another vehicle from them, you get to pick the car out of the lineup and all. It was this or a handful of Sentras so it was an easy pick.

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This car didn't suck. It's slow and passing power doesn't exist. 2400 RPM at 80 MPH. Averaged 41 MPG for the 500 miles I had it. Held its own on a back road and was still fun to drive. Good ride quality. Super quiet on the highway for a cheap car. Top notch infotainment, worked better than any system I've tried using.

Solid entry in the compact cheap car segment. Enjoyable, if forgettable, car.
I've always rented from Alamo due to price, and it's always a fantastic experience. I even rented from Alamo in Germany and it was great.
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