Schmee? and because he's a trust fund baby youtuber?
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$55k starting at price puts it into BMW territory.troyguitar wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:02 pmWhy is a Toyota being compared to any BMW? The competition is 370Z, Corvette, Camaro, Mustang, Miata/Fiata, and to a lesser extent Kia Stinger.max225 wrote:https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2586 ... rice-2020/
Interesting read on the 2020 supra... that interior looks low rent... which is a big ol also the pricepoint is 50k... M2 is 55k with way more power and a better interior... and arguably a better badge...
go for a 2020 supra... So about this whole thing. Where is it in the market ? Who would go for a supra over a 240i which is cheaper... or m2 which is better performing... It slots in between those two models IMO/
It's not a Lexus.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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He prob got it for free as a "press car" and claims he "bought" it.
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1. It is basically a BMW.troyguitar wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:02 pmWhy is a Toyota being compared to any BMW? The competition is 370Z, Corvette, Camaro, Mustang, Miata/Fiata, and to a lesser extent Kia Stinger.max225 wrote:https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2586 ... rice-2020/
Interesting read on the 2020 supra... that interior looks low rent... which is a big ol also the pricepoint is 50k... M2 is 55k with way more power and a better interior... and arguably a better badge...
go for a 2020 supra... So about this whole thing. Where is it in the market ? Who would go for a supra over a 240i which is cheaper... or m2 which is better performing... It slots in between those two models IMO/
It's not a Lexus.
2. It is more expensive than a comparable M240i, which I still don't see how the supra is better than that, other than style.
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There's fanbois that will buy it solely for the badge. That's about it. This thing makes no sense. Most overhyped vehicle launch in forever.max225 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:34 pm1. It is basically a BMW.troyguitar wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:02 pm Why is a Toyota being compared to any BMW? The competition is 370Z, Corvette, Camaro, Mustang, Miata/Fiata, and to a lesser extent Kia Stinger.
It's not a Lexus.
2. It is more expensive than a comparable M240i, which I still don't see how the supra is better than that, other than style.
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max225 wrote:Need 4 doors and clearance and automatic... consider Meata....
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I think it's a cool car but not at the same price as a Corvette, M2, Cayman, or GT350.Detroit wrote:There's fanbois that will buy it solely for the badge. That's about it. This thing makes no sense. Most overhyped vehicle launch in forever.
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Exactly.troyguitar wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:43 pmI think it's a cool car but not at the same price as a Corvette, M2, Cayman, or GT350.Detroit wrote: There's fanbois that will buy it solely for the badge. That's about it. This thing makes no sense. Most overhyped vehicle launch in forever.
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troyguitar wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:43 pmI think it's a cool car but not at the same price as a Corvette, M2, Cayman, or GT350.Detroit wrote: There's fanbois that will buy it solely for the badge. That's about it. This thing makes no sense. Most overhyped vehicle launch in forever.
brain go brrrrrr
troyguitar wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:43 pmI think it's a cool car but not at the same price as a Corvette, M2, Cayman, or GT350.Detroit wrote: There's fanbois that will buy it solely for the badge. That's about it. This thing makes no sense. Most overhyped vehicle launch in forever.
As cool as the supra looks I'd rather have every car you mentioned over it.
And how are Toyota going to handle having an actual performance car? We've already seen how awful Honda has been with the Hype R. $20-30k markups incoming for the Supra too.
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what the decides to do with the price, consumers will decide in the end. And this car won't move. Willing to bet.Gberg2119 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:51 pmtroyguitar wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:43 pm I think it's a cool car but not at the same price as a Corvette, M2, Cayman, or GT350.
As cool as the supra looks I'd rather have every car you mentioned over it.
And how are Toyota going to handle having an actual performance car? We've already seen how awful Honda has been with the Hype R. $20-30k markups incoming for the Supra too.
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Johnny wants a miata?troyguitar wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:39 pmmax225 wrote:Need 4 doors and clearance and automatic... consider Meata....
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$20-$40k "market adjustments" for the first few months, I suspect.Gberg2119 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:51 pmtroyguitar wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:43 pm I think it's a cool car but not at the same price as a Corvette, M2, Cayman, or GT350.
As cool as the supra looks I'd rather have every car you mentioned over it.
And how are Toyota going to handle having an actual performance car? We've already seen how awful Honda has been with the Hype R. $20-30k markups incoming for the Supra too.
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There are enough fanbois to fill the first 6 mos of sales I bet. It'll flop shortly after
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Maybe first month when each dealer is getting 1 unit. Aint nobody buying this thing .. it just makes no sense.
real SUPRA guys will hate it because it is a BMW, and real BMW won't buy it because an actual BMW is cheaper. Who is in the market for this?
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[user not found] wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:12 pm Werid, DFD is about everything as always.
1) it's a heck of a car
2) it's better priced than one would have anticipated
3) it's gonna sell every unit they build and at or above invoice.
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[user not found] wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:12 pm Werid, DFD is about everything as always.
1) it's a heck of a car
2) it's better priced than one would have anticipated
3) it's gonna sell every unit they build and at or above invoice.
As the only published author in a well-known motorcycle publication in the room...
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Desertbreh wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:05 pm DFD. The forum where everybody makes the same choices and then tells anybody trying to join the club that they are the stupidest motherfucker to ever walk the earth.
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The truth will set you free!!![user not found] wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:12 pm Werid, DFD is about everything as always.
1) it's a heck of a car
2) it's better priced than one would have anticipated
3) it's gonna sell every unit they build and at or above invoice.
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Can’t wait for yours! What color?Davestr wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:55 pmThe truth will set you free!!![user not found] wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:12 pm Werid, DFD is about everything as always.
1) it's a heck of a car
2) it's better priced than one would have anticipated
3) it's gonna sell every unit they build and at or above invoice.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:05 pm DFD. The forum where everybody makes the same choices and then tells anybody trying to join the club that they are the stupidest motherfucker to ever walk the earth.