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Car Talk 5: The Juice is Loose!
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:17 am
by Irish
Sliding doors are a god send when you are carrying multiple
but other than that my Sienna made me want to off my self on the daily....
Car Talk 5: The Juice is Loose!
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:20 am
by coogles
Irish wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:17 am
Sliding doors are a god send when you are carrying multiple
but other than that my Sienna made me want to off my self on the daily....
Right? That's what I'm afraid of.
Car Talk 5: The Juice is Loose!
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:46 am
by wap
coogles wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:20 am
Irish wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:17 am
Sliding doors are a god send when you are carrying multiple
but other than that my Sienna made me want to off my self on the daily....
Right? That's what I'm afraid of.
Yeah, between those 2 I'd get the Subie. Should be pretty reliable for the time you're likely to keep it and it has at least some pretense of "fun" in that you can do some light soft/off roading/beach driving, camping, National Park dirt roading, etc with it, where the Oddy would ...not. And while Irish's point about sliding doors is certainly valid, your
s will be old enough to climb in themselves soon enough, no? Plus, while not "cool" looking, it looks better than a minivan, IMO.
Just my undoubtedly
opinions.
Car Talk 5: The Juice is Loose!
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:08 am
by Irish
However
tend to like Minivans ..... its like it sends a signal to all the other
that here is a member in good standing or some such nonsense....
The message it sends to other men is "Damn, we lost another one"
Car Talk 5: The Juice is Loose!
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:09 am
by coogles
Irish wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:08 am
However
tend to like Minivans ..... its like it sends a signal to all the other
that here is a member in good standing or some such nonsense....
The message it sends to other men is "Damn, we lost another one"
If we get a minivan my wife will NEVER plop her ass into that driver's seat. EVER. She abhors them. I'd probably end up involuntarily celibate if I get one, but that doesn't change my opinion that having a minivan would be way better for hauling around our brood and two (small) dogs.
Car Talk 5: The Juice is Loose!
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:11 am
by coogles
wap wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:46 am
coogles wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:20 am
Right? That's what I'm afraid of.
Yeah, between those 2 I'd get the Subie. Should be pretty reliable for the time you're likely to keep it and it has at least some pretense of "fun" in that you can do some light soft/off roading/beach driving, camping, National Park dirt roading, etc with it, where the Oddy would ...not. And while Irish's point about sliding doors is certainly valid, your
s will be old enough to climb in themselves soon enough, no? Plus, while not "cool" looking, it looks better than a minivan, IMO.
Just my undoubtedly
opinions.
That's the way I'm leaning. My little dude is almost 3, the twins are a couple days shy of 15 months, so those two have awhile until they can climb up themselves, but they'll be forward-facing at about 2. Once they are, my son could climb up into the middle seat on his own and the twins could go on the outside. Wouldn't be too difficult, I don't think.
Car Talk 5: The Juice is Loose!
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:31 am
by max225
Fun chart
Car Talk 5: The Juice is Loose!
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:31 am
by wap
coogles wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:11 am
wap wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:46 am
Yeah, between those 2 I'd get the Subie. Should be pretty reliable for the time you're likely to keep it and it has at least some pretense of "fun" in that you can do some light soft/off roading/beach driving, camping, National Park dirt roading, etc with it, where the Oddy would ...not. And while Irish's point about sliding doors is certainly valid, your
s will be old enough to climb in themselves soon enough, no? Plus, while not "cool" looking, it looks better than a minivan, IMO.
Just my undoubtedly
opinions.
That's the way I'm leaning. My little dude is almost 3, the twins are a couple days shy of 15 months, so those two have awhile until they can climb up themselves, but they'll be forward-facing at about 2. Once they are, my son could climb up into the middle seat on his own and the twins could go on the outside. Wouldn't be too difficult, I don't think.
Car Talk 5: The Juice is Loose!
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:39 am
by Irish
coogles wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:09 am
Irish wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:08 am
However
tend to like Minivans ..... its like it sends a signal to all the other
that here is a member in good standing or some such nonsense....
The message it sends to other men is "Damn, we lost another one"
If we get a minivan my wife will NEVER plop her ass into that driver's seat. EVER. She abhors them. I'd probably end up involuntarily celibate if I get one, but that doesn't change my opinion that having a minivan would be way better for hauling around our brood and two (small) dogs.
They are no doubt versatile vehicles.... had I not gotten one I may very well have wished I did.... What sold us was, my brother in law renting one while we were on vacation with them.... our thoughts were that no other vehicle would allow us to have another couple in the car (my in laws) and the crotchfruit. Basically the Third row and the doors are what pushed me to trade in the 4Runner in on it. I still miss the 4R.....
Car Talk 5: The Juice is Loose!
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:00 pm
by coogles
Irish wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:39 am
They are no doubt versatile vehicles.... had I not gotten one I may very well have wished I did.... What sold us was, my brother in law renting one while we were on vacation with them.... our thoughts were that no other vehicle would allow us to have another couple in the car (my in laws) and the crotchfruit. Basically the Third row and the doors are what pushed me to trade in the 4Runner in on it. I still miss the 4R.....
Car Talk 5: The Juice is Loose!
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:26 pm
by Tar
max225 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:31 am
Fun chart
Car Talk 5: The Juice is Loose!
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:30 pm
by ChrisoftheNorth
max225 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:31 am
Fun chart
Rising prices supported by increased incentive spending, neutral for OEMs...until now when demand went crazy and supply fell off a cliff. Wild times.
Car Talk 5: The Juice is Loose!
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:38 pm
by ChrisoftheNorth
coogles wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:00 pm
Irish wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:39 am
They are no doubt versatile vehicles.... had I not gotten one I may very well have wished I did.... What sold us was, my brother in law renting one while we were on vacation with them.... our thoughts were that no other vehicle would allow us to have another couple in the car (my in laws) and the crotchfruit. Basically the Third row and the doors are what pushed me to trade in the 4Runner in on it. I still miss the 4R.....
Is the Kia Carnival or new Sienna for sale yet? I honestly wouldn't be embarrassed to drive either of those...
Car Talk 5: The Juice is Loose!
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:55 pm
by coogles
Detroit wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:38 pm
coogles wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:00 pm
Is the Kia Carnival or new Sienna for sale yet? I honestly wouldn't be embarrassed to drive either of those...
I believe both are, but I'd personally choose the Odyssey over either.
Re: Car Talk 5: The Juice is Loose!
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:56 pm
by troyguitar
No stellantic hybrid?
Car Talk 5: The Juice is Loose!
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:00 pm
by Irish
FWIW, Car and Driver is creaming over the Telluride....
Car Talk 5: The Juice is Loose!
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:01 pm
by max225
Irish wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:00 pm
FWIW, Car and Driver is creaming over the Telluride....
Meh. Old news. I have been seen the genesis suv lately and it has some major presence. Horrendous badge doe
Car Talk 5: The Juice is Loose!
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:19 pm
by coogles
Irish wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:00 pm
FWIW, Car and Driver is creaming over the Telluride....
We were clearly
, but we chose the Atlas over the Telluride.
Car Talk 5: The Juice is Loose!
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:24 pm
by Irish
max225 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:01 pm
Irish wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:00 pm
FWIW, Car and Driver is creaming over the Telluride....
Meh. Old news. I have been seen the genesis suv lately and it has some major presence. Horrendous badge doe
Car Talk 5: The Juice is Loose!
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:34 pm
by Desertbreh
max225 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:16 pm
Apex wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 7:46 pm
I’d go Defender. They will do everything you need a truck/SUV for and you get the uprated badge.
They also look cool af imo
Yea it still maintains a uniqueness as well. However I am
if the baby dick 2.slow is good enough, or if I need to go I6. I don’t like the complexity of the I6. It’s some wacky hybrid crap that doesn’t work, turbos and god knows what else …
V8 is out of the question. If I’m spending 100k I’m going RR not defender.
Selling one of the world's most reliable vehicles and purchasing the world's least reliable vehicle makes no sense. Not that it matters but I would V8 Defender over RR all day every day. The average RR buyer is not part of a group I want to join. If you just want to fuck around it makes a lot more sense unloading the mini and getting something cooler.
Car Talk 5: The Juice is Loose!
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:40 pm
by max225
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:34 pm
max225 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:16 pm
Yea it still maintains a uniqueness as well. However I am
if the baby dick 2.slow is good enough, or if I need to go I6. I don’t like the complexity of the I6. It’s some wacky hybrid crap that doesn’t work, turbos and god knows what else …
V8 is out of the question. If I’m spending 100k I’m going RR not defender.
Selling one of the world's most reliable vehicles and purchasing the world's least reliable vehicle makes no sense. Not that it matters but I would V8 Defender over RR all day every day. The average RR buyer is not part of a group I want to join. If you just want to fuck around it makes a lot more sense unloading the mini and getting something cooler.
Yea … I need to cut one of the vehicles loose and the
is just too nice to sell at this point in time.
Car Talk 5: The Juice is Loose!
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 4:06 pm
by Desertbreh
max225 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:40 pm
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:34 pm
Selling one of the world's most reliable vehicles and purchasing the world's least reliable vehicle makes no sense. Not that it matters but I would V8 Defender over RR all day every day. The average RR buyer is not part of a group I want to join. If you just want to fuck around it makes a lot more sense unloading the mini and getting something cooler.
Yea … I need to cut one of the vehicles loose and the
is just too nice to sell at this point in time.
It is not just nice it is incredibly useful. The correct financial play is getting rid of the Mini, driving the Acura then waiting for the madness to end and buy an Evora 400 or an Aston Martin. Or standing pat.
Car Talk 5: The Juice is Loose!
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:05 pm
by ChrisoftheNorth
coogles wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:55 pm
Detroit wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:38 pm
Is the Kia Carnival or new Sienna for sale yet? I honestly wouldn't be embarrassed to drive either of those...
I believe both are, but I'd personally choose the Odyssey over either.
If you're giving up just go all the way eh?
Car Talk 5: The Juice is Loose!
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:22 pm
by Irish
coogles wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:19 pm
Irish wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:00 pm
FWIW, Car and Driver is creaming over the Telluride....
We were clearly
, but we chose the Atlas over the Telluride.
I'm sure I'm
too but I rather liked the Atlass that my son brought home from the
:dillershit: ..... Not as fancy as the T-Reg but it rode very nice and felt substantial.....
Car Talk 5: The Juice is Loose!
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:23 pm
by Irish
I am seeing a lot of Arteons these days..... I think they are kinda sharp looking......
is just too nice to sell at this point in time.