Car Talk 5: The Juice is Loose!

[Irish]

Sliding doors are a god send when you are carrying multiple but other than that my Sienna made me want to off my self on the daily....

[coogles]

Sliding doors are a god send when you are carrying multiple but other than that my Sienna made me want to off my self on the daily....

Right? That's what I'm afraid of.

[wap]

Sliding doors are a god send when you are carrying multiple but other than that my Sienna made me want to off my self on the daily....

Right? That's what I'm afraid of.

Yeah, between those 2 I'd get the Subie. Should be pretty reliable for the time you're likely to keep it and it has at least some pretense of "fun" in that you can do some light soft/off roading/beach driving, camping, National Park dirt roading, etc with it, where the Oddy would ...not. And while Irish's point about sliding doors is certainly valid, your s will be old enough to climb in themselves soon enough, no? Plus, while not "cool" looking, it looks better than a minivan, IMO.

Just my undoubtedly opinions.

[Irish]

However tend to like Minivans ..... its like it sends a signal to all the other that here is a member in good standing or some such nonsense....

The message it sends to other men is "Damn, we lost another one"

[coogles]

However tend to like Minivans ..... its like it sends a signal to all the other that here is a member in good standing or some such nonsense....

The message it sends to other men is "Damn, we lost another one"

If we get a minivan my wife will NEVER plop her ass into that driver's seat. EVER. She abhors them. I'd probably end up involuntarily celibate if I get one, but that doesn't change my opinion that having a minivan would be way better for hauling around our brood and two (small) dogs.

[coogles]

Right? That's what I'm afraid of.

Yeah, between those 2 I'd get the Subie. Should be pretty reliable for the time you're likely to keep it and it has at least some pretense of "fun" in that you can do some light soft/off roading/beach driving, camping, National Park dirt roading, etc with it, where the Oddy would ...not. And while Irish's point about sliding doors is certainly valid, your s will be old enough to climb in themselves soon enough, no? Plus, while not "cool" looking, it looks better than a minivan, IMO.

Just my undoubtedly opinions.

That's the way I'm leaning. My little dude is almost 3, the twins are a couple days shy of 15 months, so those two have awhile until they can climb up themselves, but they'll be forward-facing at about 2. Once they are, my son could climb up into the middle seat on his own and the twins could go on the outside. Wouldn't be too difficult, I don't think.

[max225]

Fun chart

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Yeah, between those 2 I'd get the Subie. Should be pretty reliable for the time you're likely to keep it and it has at least some pretense of "fun" in that you can do some light soft/off roading/beach driving, camping, National Park dirt roading, etc with it, where the Oddy would ...not. And while Irish's point about sliding doors is certainly valid, your s will be old enough to climb in themselves soon enough, no? Plus, while not "cool" looking, it looks better than a minivan, IMO.

Just my undoubtedly opinions.

That's the way I'm leaning. My little dude is almost 3, the twins are a couple days shy of 15 months, so those two have awhile until they can climb up themselves, but they'll be forward-facing at about 2. Once they are, my son could climb up into the middle seat on his own and the twins could go on the outside. Wouldn't be too difficult, I don't think.

[Irish]

However tend to like Minivans ..... its like it sends a signal to all the other that here is a member in good standing or some such nonsense....

The message it sends to other men is "Damn, we lost another one"

If we get a minivan my wife will NEVER plop her ass into that driver's seat. EVER. She abhors them. I'd probably end up involuntarily celibate if I get one, but that doesn't change my opinion that having a minivan would be way better for hauling around our brood and two (small) dogs.

They are no doubt versatile vehicles.... had I not gotten one I may very well have wished I did.... What sold us was, my brother in law renting one while we were on vacation with them.... our thoughts were that no other vehicle would allow us to have another couple in the car (my in laws) and the crotchfruit. Basically the Third row and the doors are what pushed me to trade in the 4Runner in on it. I still miss the 4R.....

[coogles]

They are no doubt versatile vehicles.... had I not gotten one I may very well have wished I did.... What sold us was, my brother in law renting one while we were on vacation with them.... our thoughts were that no other vehicle would allow us to have another couple in the car (my in laws) and the crotchfruit. Basically the Third row and the doors are what pushed me to trade in the 4Runner in on it. I still miss the 4R.....

[Tar]

Fun chart

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Fun chart

Rising prices supported by increased incentive spending, neutral for OEMs...until now when demand went crazy and supply fell off a cliff. Wild times.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

They are no doubt versatile vehicles.... had I not gotten one I may very well have wished I did.... What sold us was, my brother in law renting one while we were on vacation with them.... our thoughts were that no other vehicle would allow us to have another couple in the car (my in laws) and the crotchfruit. Basically the Third row and the doors are what pushed me to trade in the 4Runner in on it. I still miss the 4R.....

Is the Kia Carnival or new Sienna for sale yet? I honestly wouldn't be embarrassed to drive either of those...

[coogles]

Is the Kia Carnival or new Sienna for sale yet? I honestly wouldn't be embarrassed to drive either of those...

I believe both are, but I'd personally choose the Odyssey over either.

[troyguitar]

No stellantic hybrid?

[Irish]

FWIW, Car and Driver is creaming over the Telluride....

[max225]

FWIW, Car and Driver is creaming over the Telluride....

Meh. Old news. I have been seen the genesis suv lately and it has some major presence. Horrendous badge doe

[coogles]

FWIW, Car and Driver is creaming over the Telluride....

We were clearly , but we chose the Atlas over the Telluride.

[Irish]

FWIW, Car and Driver is creaming over the Telluride....

Meh. Old news. I have been seen the genesis suv lately and it has some major presence. Horrendous badge doe

[Desertbreh]

I’d go Defender. They will do everything you need a truck/SUV for and you get the uprated badge.
They also look cool af imo

Yea it still maintains a uniqueness as well. However I am if the baby dick 2.slow is good enough, or if I need to go I6. I don’t like the complexity of the I6. It’s some wacky hybrid crap that doesn’t work, turbos and god knows what else …
V8 is out of the question. If I’m spending 100k I’m going RR not defender.

Selling one of the world's most reliable vehicles and purchasing the world's least reliable vehicle makes no sense. Not that it matters but I would V8 Defender over RR all day every day. The average RR buyer is not part of a group I want to join. If you just want to fuck around it makes a lot more sense unloading the mini and getting something cooler.

[max225]

Yea it still maintains a uniqueness as well. However I am if the baby dick 2.slow is good enough, or if I need to go I6. I don’t like the complexity of the I6. It’s some wacky hybrid crap that doesn’t work, turbos and god knows what else …
V8 is out of the question. If I’m spending 100k I’m going RR not defender.

Selling one of the world's most reliable vehicles and purchasing the world's least reliable vehicle makes no sense. Not that it matters but I would V8 Defender over RR all day every day. The average RR buyer is not part of a group I want to join. If you just want to fuck around it makes a lot more sense unloading the mini and getting something cooler.

Yea … I need to cut one of the vehicles loose and the is just too nice to sell at this point in time.

[Desertbreh]

Selling one of the world's most reliable vehicles and purchasing the world's least reliable vehicle makes no sense. Not that it matters but I would V8 Defender over RR all day every day. The average RR buyer is not part of a group I want to join. If you just want to fuck around it makes a lot more sense unloading the mini and getting something cooler.

Yea … I need to cut one of the vehicles loose and the is just too nice to sell at this point in time.

It is not just nice it is incredibly useful. The correct financial play is getting rid of the Mini, driving the Acura then waiting for the madness to end and buy an Evora 400 or an Aston Martin. Or standing pat.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Is the Kia Carnival or new Sienna for sale yet? I honestly wouldn't be embarrassed to drive either of those...

I believe both are, but I'd personally choose the Odyssey over either.

If you're giving up just go all the way eh?

[Irish]

FWIW, Car and Driver is creaming over the Telluride....

We were clearly , but we chose the Atlas over the Telluride.

I'm sure I'm too but I rather liked the Atlass that my son brought home from the :dillershit: ..... Not as fancy as the T-Reg but it rode very nice and felt substantial.....

[Irish]

I am seeing a lot of Arteons these days..... I think they are kinda sharp looking......