Car Talk 4: Cars for the Poors
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:09 am
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They're a deathtrap Car Talk 4: Cars for the Poors
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:12 am
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Car Talk 4: Cars for the Poors
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:16 am
41 mpg holy Moses ! Wtf kind of engine is in that. I am at 27 in the midget mobile
Car Talk 4: Cars for the Poors
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:33 am
Johnny_P wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:59 am Rental in Vegas was a brand new 2020 Hyundai Elantra from Alamo. Side note, Alamo was awesome and I'd get another vehicle from them, you get to pick the car out of the lineup and all. It was this or a handful of Sentras so it was an easy pick.
This car didn't suck. It's slow and passing power doesn't exist. 2400 RPM at 80 MPH. Averaged 41 MPG for the 500 miles I had it. Held its own on a back road and was still fun to drive. Good ride quality. Super quiet on the highway for a cheap car. Top notch infotainment, worked better than any system I've tried using.
Solid entry in the compact cheap car segment. Enjoyable, if forgettable, car.
One tip about Alamo though: Be prepared to fight when you get your bill after returning your car.
In Hawaii this last time we did the pick your car thing and they said "Anything in this row over here". They were all small crossovers and there were 3 Hyundai's and the rest were Nissans. Obviously we picked one of the Hyundai's and checked out at the gate. After the week was over we dropped off the car and flew home. 2 days later the bill was $300 more than expected. Had to call and deal with them saying "it must have been an error as the Hyundai was a different class from the Nissan". Basically had to tell them if there was a mistake it was on them, and all the cars in my row that I was told to select from all looked like the same <$25,000 POS crossover.
They reversed the charges after about 5 minutes of me complaining.
Not a bad service and fast in/out, just keep an eye on your bills.
Car Talk 4: Cars for the Poors
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:36 am
Yeah I was
at that MPG. We drove from Vegas to Joshua Tree via the Mojave preserve. So lots of highway and straight driving but some dips which induced hard braking and then hard acceleration afterwards, a few mountain type crossings, etc. Farting around Joshua Tree. Dirt driving to get to our AirBnB. Errands for wedding supplies, etc.2.0l atkinson cycle motor, like 140 something hp. It could use more power. I wouldn't call it dangerous, it was like 8.5 to 60 I guess. But it could use more. CVT transmission acted more like an automatic, it had me fooled for 2 days.
Honestly thing thing was great on the highway, power aside. Really quiet and comfy.
Car Talk 4: Cars for the Poors
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:38 am
Thanks for the tip. The receipt said I got billed for the same car class letters that I reserved. So I guess we will see. I rented a "hyundai elantra or similar" and felt a sentra was a much lesser vehicleCorvetteWaxer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:33 amJohnny_P wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:59 am Rental in Vegas was a brand new 2020 Hyundai Elantra from Alamo. Side note, Alamo was awesome and I'd get another vehicle from them, you get to pick the car out of the lineup and all. It was this or a handful of Sentras so it was an easy pick.
This car didn't suck. It's slow and passing power doesn't exist. 2400 RPM at 80 MPH. Averaged 41 MPG for the 500 miles I had it. Held its own on a back road and was still fun to drive. Good ride quality. Super quiet on the highway for a cheap car. Top notch infotainment, worked better than any system I've tried using.
Solid entry in the compact cheap car segment. Enjoyable, if forgettable, car.
One tip about Alamo though: Be prepared to fight when you get your bill after returning your car.
In Hawaii this last time we did the pick your car thing and they said "Anything in this row over here". They were all small crossovers and there were 3 Hyundai's and the rest were Nissans. Obviously we picked one of the Hyundai's and checked out at the gate. After the week was over we dropped off the car and flew home. 2 days later the bill was $300 more than expected. Had to call and deal with them saying "it must have been an error as the Hyundai was a different class from the Nissan". Basically had to tell them if there was a mistake it was on them, and all the cars in my row that I was told to select from all looked like the same <$25,000 POS crossover.
They reversed the charges after about 5 minutes of me complaining.
Not a bad service and fast in/out, just keep an eye on your bills.
Car Talk 4: Cars for the Poors
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:45 am
National's emerald club is the same way. Go out and pick a car from the isle. I love this because I can check all the RAMZ to see which ones have poverty screens etc
Car Talk 4: Cars for the Poors
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:06 pm
I mean I don't doubt that the Mazda and Honda drive better. But this was legitimately fun to bomb into turns, quiet, rode great, and had all the connectivity stuff checked. It will check a ton of boxes for a lot of people. And I did enjoy driving it.
Car Talk 4: Cars for the Poors
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:27 pm
enjoy it, until it turns into a pile which is a ways away.
Car Talk 4: Cars for the Poors
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:27 pm
I rented an Elantra a couple of years ago and drove from Phoenix to Las Vegas and back and yielded high 30s, prettyJohnny_P wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:36 amYeah I was
2.0l atkinson cycle motor, like 140 something hp. It could use more power. I wouldn't call it dangerous, it was like 8.5 to 60 I guess. But it could use more. CVT transmission acted more like an automatic, it had me fooled for 2 days.
Honestly thing thing was great on the highway, power aside. Really quiet and comfy.
considering I flat footed it most of the way back, driving 110 mph through the desert.Car Talk 4: Cars for the Poors
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:03 pm
Hyundai looks to have extended their cheap lease thing, found a dealer in Towson that had one but it's still like pulling teeth trying to get an actual ballpark figure one would need to pay.
Car Talk 4: Cars for the Poors
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:04 pm
Yeah, I like national as well. I get the emerald club by having the Amex Platinum and it's a decent perk.
Car Talk 4: Cars for the Poors
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:05 pm
I never take the Nissan.Johnny_P wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:38 amThanks for the tip. The receipt said I got billed for the same car class letters that I reserved. So I guess we will see. I rented a "hyundai elantra or similar" and felt a sentra was a much lesser vehicleCorvetteWaxer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:33 am
One tip about Alamo though: Be prepared to fight when you get your bill after returning your car.
In Hawaii this last time we did the pick your car thing and they said "Anything in this row over here". They were all small crossovers and there were 3 Hyundai's and the rest were Nissans. Obviously we picked one of the Hyundai's and checked out at the gate. After the week was over we dropped off the car and flew home. 2 days later the bill was $300 more than expected. Had to call and deal with them saying "it must have been an error as the Hyundai was a different class from the Nissan". Basically had to tell them if there was a mistake it was on them, and all the cars in my row that I was told to select from all looked like the same <$25,000 POS crossover.
They reversed the charges after about 5 minutes of me complaining.
Not a bad service and fast in/out, just keep an eye on your bills.
Got stuck with a Versa once and decided never again!
Car Talk 4: Cars for the Poors
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:10 pm
Also, there's this:
https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/c ... -the-year/
VelobsterN won Performance Car of the Year from R&T. Beat out the new Corvette, M2 comp, Supra, 911 CS.... Maybe clickbait article but nonetheless.
https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/c ... -the-year/
VelobsterN won Performance Car of the Year from R&T. Beat out the new Corvette, M2 comp, Supra, 911 CS.... Maybe clickbait article but
nonetheless.Car Talk 4: Cars for the Poors
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:11 pm
That's what we use for work. Sometimes you get a
car other times it's a row of Total coin toss.
Car Talk 4: Cars for the Poors
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:15 pm
Too bad no one is buying thoseJohnny_P wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:10 pm Also, there's this:
https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/c ... -the-year/
VelobsterN won Performance Car of the Year from R&T. Beat out the new Corvette, M2 comp, Supra, 911 CS.... Maybe clickbait article but
Car Talk 4: Cars for the Poors
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:15 pm
So buy a 30k car... wait 50 years to sell it for 100k, which is inflation adjusted the same as what you paid for it... yet you kept it covered in the garage in a bubble for the next guy. FK that... Drive the wheels off of it I say.
Car Talk 4: Cars for the Poors
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:19 pm
Says who ?D Griff wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:15 pmToo bad no one is buying thoseJohnny_P wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:10 pm Also, there's this:
https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/c ... -the-year/
VelobsterN won Performance Car of the Year from R&T. Beat out the new Corvette, M2 comp, Supra, 911 CS.... Maybe clickbait article but
treat em like gold.Re: Car Talk 4: Cars for the Poors
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:22 pm
I thought about it but just can't imagine it's anywhere near as good as my car - and for the same price.D Griff wrote:Too bad no one is buying thoseJohnny_P wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:10 pm Also, there's this:
https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/c ... -the-year/
VelobsterN won Performance Car of the Year from R&T. Beat out the new Corvette, M2 comp, Supra, 911 CS.... Maybe clickbait article but
Car Talk 4: Cars for the Poors
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:26 pm
Car Talk 4: Cars for the Poors
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:27 pm
I'd probably choose the 86.. but it's a tough comparo, really depends what you want.troyguitar wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:22 pmI thought about it but just can't imagine it's anywhere near as good as my car - and for the same price.D Griff wrote:
Too bad no one is buying those
N is faster and more practical, 86 looks better and drives better.
Car Talk 4: Cars for the Poors
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:29 pm
I mean they are in a very niche place in the market.
Hyundai is a shitty brand commanding an expensive premium for performance. So this is someone who
about brand, about RWD, and about having 3 doors. This is a rare customer... especially when a used golf R is the same price and Pooper JCW is 10k less. A BRZ is around the same price... and tons of other performance can be had for 30k ... I am really 
who this customer is... other than someone trying to "prove the internet wrong" or "die hard H fan"Its a crowded market, but given lack of
discunts, people are buying them.Car Talk 4: Cars for the Poors
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:30 pm
@ 275 horsepower it has you beat there, but it is wrong wheel drive.troyguitar wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:22 pmI thought about it but just can't imagine it's anywhere near as good as my car - and for the same price.D Griff wrote:
Too bad no one is buying those
All the magazines and youtube guys rave about it, but i don't know. I think they are downplaying the torque steer.
Car Talk 4: Cars for the Poors
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:40 pm
Which tier do you get with that card?CorvetteWaxer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:04 pmYeah, I like national as well. I get the emerald club by having the Amex Platinum and it's a decent perk.
Even my 63 year old mom knows to demand something "not a Nissan" at the counter
Re: Car Talk 4: Cars for the Poors
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:45 pm
I'm sure it's good for what it is, seems like a lightly modded GTI out of the box. I just can't buy FWD when RWD exists. Admittedly soon there will be no more small yet practical and affordable RWD cars, so then stuff like this will make sense.CorvetteWaxer wrote:@ 275 horsepower it has you beat there, but it is wrong wheel drive.troyguitar wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:22 pm I thought about it but just can't imagine it's anywhere near as good as my car - and for the same price.
All the magazines and youtube guys rave about it, but i don't know. I think they are downplaying the torque steer.