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Jeeponomics 101: Eternal tirekicking for the trigger-less Jeep
Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:30 pm
by D Griff
I feel like this was code for "I'm doing this next week".

Jeeponomics 101: Eternal tirekicking for the trigger-less Jeep
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:57 am
by Irish
Jeeponomics 101: Eternal tirekicking for the trigger-less Jeep
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:13 am
by max225
Jeeponomics 101: Eternal tirekicking for the trigger-less Jeep
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 8:58 am
by ChrisoftheNorth
[user not found] wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:36 am
Detroit wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:01 pm
Nothing has $10k on the hood around me.
Shame Cali charges 10% sales tax even on purchases registered out of state.
I’d pick one up when I’m in San Diaaaaaago in 2 weeks and drive it home.
My wife is flying back to CA next week to visit family. Her sister popped out twin

and she's obligated to go see them. I got out of it by claiming "no vacation time"...my wife has half of next week off from work and I don't.
She's going to Huntington Beach, which is where Max shared those epic

s. I thought briefly about going out there and buying a

to drive back, but I'm not flushing 10% sales tax down the drain. No way.
Jeeponomics 101: Eternal tirekicking for the trigger-less Jeep
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:50 am
by D Griff
Detroit wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 8:58 am
[user not found] wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:36 am
Shame Cali charges 10% sales tax even on purchases registered out of state.
I’d pick one up when I’m in San Diaaaaaago in 2 weeks and drive it home.
My wife is flying back to CA next week to visit family. Her sister popped out twin

and she's obligated to go see them. I got out of it by claiming "no vacation time"...my wife has half of next week off from work and I don't.
She's going to Huntington Beach, which is where Max shared those epic

s. I thought briefly about going out there and buying a

to drive back, but I'm not flushing 10% sales tax down the drain. No way.
That's wild that you still pay it if registering out of state. Too bad, that would be a fun adventure/sweet
Our vehicle sales tax is 3% here so it's a much less significant issues. They make their money on annual rape fees here.
Jeeponomics 101: Eternal tirekicking for the trigger-less Jeep
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:54 am
by ChrisoftheNorth
D Griff wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:50 am
Detroit wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 8:58 am
My wife is flying back to CA next week to visit family. Her sister popped out twin

and she's obligated to go see them. I got out of it by claiming "no vacation time"...my wife has half of next week off from work and I don't.
She's going to Huntington Beach, which is where Max shared those epic

s. I thought briefly about going out there and buying a

to drive back, but I'm not flushing 10% sales tax down the drain. No way.
That's wild that you still pay it if registering out of state. Too bad, that would be a fun adventure/sweet
Our vehicle sales tax is 3% here so it's a much less significant issues. They make their money on annual rape fees here.
What's the cost for registration?
We're at $2-300/year for a newer vehicle. Plus 6% sales tax. Highest insurance rates in the country and garbage roads. Michigan blows.
Jeeponomics 101: Eternal tirekicking for the trigger-less Jeep
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:04 am
by SAWCE
I think I paid $400 to register the

last year.
Jeeponomics 101: Eternal tirekicking for the trigger-less Jeep
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:05 am
by ChrisoftheNorth
SAWCE wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:04 am
I think I paid $400 to register the

last year.
Yea, CA reg is crazy. But insurance is cheap.
Jeeponomics 101: Eternal tirekicking for the trigger-less Jeep
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:06 am
by CaleDeRoo
Detroit wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:54 am
D Griff wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:50 am
That's wild that you still pay it if registering out of state. Too bad, that would be a fun adventure/sweet
Our vehicle sales tax is 3% here so it's a much less significant issues. They make their money on annual rape fees here.
What's the cost for registration?
We're at $2-300/year for a newer vehicle. Plus 6% sales tax. Highest insurance rates in the country and garbage roads. Michigan blows.
Retire to the promised Land (NC)
Jeeponomics 101: Eternal tirekicking for the trigger-less Jeep
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:07 am
by Apex
CaleDeRoo wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:06 am
Detroit wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:54 am
What's the cost for registration?
We're at $2-300/year for a newer vehicle. Plus 6% sales tax. Highest insurance rates in the country and garbage roads. Michigan blows.
Retire to the promised Land (TN)

Jeeponomics 101: Eternal tirekicking for the trigger-less Jeep
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:07 am
by ChrisoftheNorth
Apex wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:07 am
CaleDeRoo wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:06 am
Retire to the promised Land (TN)
I'd move to TN tomorrow if I could get a job there that wasn't at Nissan.
Jeeponomics 101: Eternal tirekicking for the trigger-less Jeep
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:09 am
by CaleDeRoo
Maybe I didn't see enough of TN then. I liked NC better. Maybe I need to give it another shot.
Jeeponomics 101: Eternal tirekicking for the trigger-less Jeep
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:13 am
by SAWCE
Detroit wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:05 am
SAWCE wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:04 am
I think I paid $400 to register the

last year.
Yea, CA reg is crazy. But insurance is cheap.
It jumps up quick if you have anything at all on your record though. I was paying $250/month for years on the GTI
Jeeponomics 101: Eternal tirekicking for the trigger-less Jeep
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:14 am
by ChrisoftheNorth
SAWCE wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:13 am
Detroit wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:05 am
Yea, CA reg is crazy. But insurance is cheap.
It jumps up quick if you have anything at all on your record though. I was paying $250/month for years on the GTI
Woa!

Jeeponomics 101: Eternal tirekicking for the trigger-less Jeep
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:15 am
by ChrisoftheNorth
CaleDeRoo wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:09 am
Maybe I didn't see enough of TN then. I liked NC better. Maybe I need to give it another shot.
No income tax in TN has serious appeal.
Jeeponomics 101: Eternal tirekicking for the trigger-less Jeep
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:16 am
by CaleDeRoo
Detroit wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:15 am
CaleDeRoo wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:09 am
Maybe I didn't see enough of TN then. I liked NC better. Maybe I need to give it another shot.
No income tax in TN has serious appeal.
True

and Knoxville area housing is cheap
Jeeponomics 101: Eternal tirekicking for the trigger-less Jeep
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:35 am
by D Griff
CaleDeRoo wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:09 am
Maybe I didn't see enough of TN then. I liked NC better. Maybe I need to give it another shot.
Both are good, NC has a coast and better weather (a little bit). If you don't care about coast, TN will likely be cheaper. I prefer NC, but don't tell other people that, we're experience pretty aggressive growth as-is and I bet it will be more CA like in the next 20 years... prices on everything have gone up significantly.
Jeeponomics 101: Eternal tirekicking for the trigger-less Jeep
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:35 am
by D Griff
Detroit wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:54 am
D Griff wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:50 am
That's wild that you still pay it if registering out of state. Too bad, that would be a fun adventure/sweet
Our vehicle sales tax is 3% here so it's a much less significant issues. They make their money on annual rape fees here.
What's the cost for registration?
We're at $2-300/year for a newer vehicle. Plus 6% sales tax. Highest insurance rates in the country and garbage roads. Michigan blows.
About $400/year on a $20K car, up or down from there based on vehicle value.
Jeeponomics 101: Eternal tirekicking for the trigger-less Jeep
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:46 am
by ChrisoftheNorth
D Griff wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:35 am
Detroit wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:54 am
What's the cost for registration?
We're at $2-300/year for a newer vehicle. Plus 6% sales tax. Highest insurance rates in the country and garbage roads. Michigan blows.
About $400/year on a $20K car, up or down from there based on vehicle value.

Jeeponomics 101: Eternal tirekicking for the trigger-less Jeep
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:57 am
by CaleDeRoo
D Griff wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:35 am
CaleDeRoo wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:09 am
Maybe I didn't see enough of TN then. I liked NC better. Maybe I need to give it another shot.
Both are good, NC has a coast and better weather (a little bit). If you don't care about coast, TN will likely be cheaper. I prefer NC, but don't tell other people that, we're experience pretty aggressive growth as-is and I bet it will be more CA like in the next 20 years... prices on everything have gone up significantly.
This is what I'm afraid of. The rapid growth might even put Raleigh in the unaffordable range for me as early as next year especially as single income
Jeeponomics 101: Eternal tirekicking for the trigger-less Jeep
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:01 am
by D Griff
CaleDeRoo wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:57 am
D Griff wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:35 am
Both are good, NC has a coast and better weather (a little bit). If you don't care about coast, TN will likely be cheaper. I prefer NC, but don't tell other people that, we're experience pretty aggressive growth as-is and I bet it will be more CA like in the next 20 years... prices on everything have gone up significantly.
This is what I'm afraid of. The rapid growth might even put Raleigh in the unaffordable range for me as early as next year especially as single income
Eh, I mean, you can certainly still leave cheap as hell here if you want to. Raleigh is also less than Charlotte. Our

apartment two miles outside of the center of town in a cool-ish neighborhood is $1400 for a one bedroom, but you can find cheap places if you don't have to appease

with

. If you're willing to be far out it's very cheap. You can still find cheap beer at some bars and relatively affordable restaurants and stuff, but you have to work harder for it. 93 octane is about $3/gallon.

there are places that are much worse. Home prices have shot up a ton though.
In 2012 when I first moved back here, I had a nice apartment (old but I liked it) walking distance to a bunch of bars for $600/month. The same place now would be like $1200-1400. SImilarly, houses that were $120K then are now $300K.
Jeeponomics 101: Eternal tirekicking for the trigger-less Jeep
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:08 am
by CorvetteWaxer
Detroit wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:54 am
D Griff wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:50 am
That's wild that you still pay it if registering out of state. Too bad, that would be a fun adventure/sweet
Our vehicle sales tax is 3% here so it's a much less significant issues. They make their money on annual rape fees here.
What's the cost for registration?
We're at $2-300/year for a newer vehicle. Plus 6% sales tax. Highest insurance rates in the country and garbage roads. Michigan blows.
Huntington Beach sales tax is 7.75% as of now.
Registration? My JL just came up in May and it was $660 for the year.
Jeeponomics 101: Eternal tirekicking for the trigger-less Jeep
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:11 am
by CaleDeRoo
D Griff wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:01 am
CaleDeRoo wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:57 am
This is what I'm afraid of. The rapid growth might even put Raleigh in the unaffordable range for me as early as next year especially as single income
Eh, I mean, you can certainly still leave cheap as hell here if you want to. Raleigh is also less than Charlotte. Our

apartment two miles outside of the center of town in a cool-ish neighborhood is $1400 for a one bedroom, but you can find cheap places if you don't have to appease

with

. If you're willing to be far out it's very cheap. You can still find cheap beer at some bars and relatively affordable restaurants and stuff, but you have to work harder for it. 93 octane is about $3/gallon.

there are places that are much worse. Home prices have shot up a ton though.
In 2012 when I first moved back here, I had a nice apartment (old but I liked it) walking distance to a bunch of bars for $600/month. The same place now would be like $1200-1400. SImilarly, houses that were $120K then are now $300K.
My goal was to buy a place because I think if I started renting I'd never be able to afford to buy.
Jeeponomics 101: Eternal tirekicking for the trigger-less Jeep
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:15 am
by CaleDeRoo
D Griff wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:01 am
CaleDeRoo wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:57 am
This is what I'm afraid of. The rapid growth might even put Raleigh in the unaffordable range for me as early as next year especially as single income
Eh, I mean, you can certainly still leave cheap as hell here if you want to. Raleigh is also less than Charlotte. Our

apartment two miles outside of the center of town in a cool-ish neighborhood is $1400 for a one bedroom, but you can find cheap places if you don't have to appease

with

. If you're willing to be far out it's very cheap. You can still find cheap beer at some bars and relatively affordable restaurants and stuff, but you have to work harder for it. 93 octane is about $3/gallon.

there are places that are much worse. Home prices have shot up a ton though.
In 2012 when I first moved back here, I had a nice apartment (old but I liked it) walking distance to a bunch of bars for $600/month. The same place now would be like $1200-1400. SImilarly, houses that were $120K then are now $300K.
My goal was to buy a place because I think if I started renting I'd never be able to afford to buy.
Jeeponomics 101: Eternal tirekicking for the trigger-less Jeep
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:16 am
by D Griff
CaleDeRoo wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:15 am
D Griff wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:01 am
Eh, I mean, you can certainly still leave cheap as hell here if you want to. Raleigh is also less than Charlotte. Our

apartment two miles outside of the center of town in a cool-ish neighborhood is $1400 for a one bedroom, but you can find cheap places if you don't have to appease

with

. If you're willing to be far out it's very cheap. You can still find cheap beer at some bars and relatively affordable restaurants and stuff, but you have to work harder for it. 93 octane is about $3/gallon.

there are places that are much worse. Home prices have shot up a ton though.
In 2012 when I first moved back here, I had a nice apartment (old but I liked it) walking distance to a bunch of bars for $600/month. The same place now would be like $1200-1400. SImilarly, houses that were $120K then are now $300K.
My goal was to buy a place because I think if I started renting I'd never be able to afford to buy.
You can get cheap houses... extremely area dependent, if you'd like to be "ITB" it's pricey.