Jeeponomics 101: Eternal tirekicking for the gutless Jeep

[ChrisoftheNorth]

I believe it. My Silverado got great fuel economy...much better than my ZR2. It's all about aero.

The Rebel won't touch those numbers. The EPA ratings don't take different trim levels into consideration so a Rebel is "rated" the same as a normal Ram with the same drivetrain even though it has different :tars: and suspension etc. I'd be kind of surprised if you hit 20mpg hwy in one.

Low 20's doing 70 is probably achievable. Way better than my ZR2 at least. That thing can't crack 17.

[CaleDeRoo]

Fuuuuuu that rebel has a CD player! I've been looking for ways to retrofit one into my dad's 300. There's a kit but it says only to '17.

[Apex]

The Rebel won't touch those numbers. The EPA ratings don't take different trim levels into consideration so a Rebel is "rated" the same as a normal Ram with the same drivetrain even though it has different :tars: and suspension etc. I'd be kind of surprised if you hit 20mpg hwy in one.

Low 20's doing 70 is probably achievable. Way better than my ZR2 at least. That thing can't crack 17.

Dat lower bumper really makes a difference I guess.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Low 20's doing 70 is probably achievable. Way better than my ZR2 at least. That thing can't crack 17.

Dat lower bumper really makes a difference I guess.

Yes, big time. Looking closer at the Rebel, it probably has a similar issue, but it's not as bad as a ZR2 or Gladiator.

[Apex]

Dat lower bumper really makes a difference I guess.

Yes, big time. Looking closer at the Rebel, it probably has a similar issue, but it's not as bad as a ZR2 or Gladiator.

Yeah, it won't be nearly as bad with a Rebel vs. a ZR2.

[max225]

It’s cheaper and better than the gladiator imo. Gladiator is but .... this is a truck

To get a Gladiator with this equipment...it's pushing $60k. This is a nearly fully loaded Gladiator. And this comes with a V8 and a far more usable bed.

Yea, the top doesn't come off...but for $30k savings...I could get a street legal side by side aka 2-door Wrangler with no options for that.

Amazing isn’t it ? Two vehicles for less than a gladiator ...

[ChrisoftheNorth]

To get a Gladiator with this equipment...it's pushing $60k. This is a nearly fully loaded Gladiator. And this comes with a V8 and a far more usable bed.

Yea, the top doesn't come off...but for $30k savings...I could get a street legal side by side aka 2-door Wrangler with no options for that.

Amazing isn’t it ? Two vehicles for less than a gladiator ...

The idea sounds but I'm entertaining it more than I should right now.

would find a bunch of shit wrong with this this would have to be a move for me...and my earlier point about not liking driving these massive trucks makes that tough.

[max225]

Amazing isn’t it ? Two vehicles for less than a gladiator ...

The idea sounds but I'm entertaining it more than I should right now.

would find a bunch of shit wrong with this this would have to be a move for me...and my earlier point about not liking driving these massive trucks makes that tough.

Ask her what she thinks.... thought she liked full sizers ?

[ChrisoftheNorth]

The idea sounds but I'm entertaining it more than I should right now.

would find a bunch of shit wrong with this this would have to be a move for me...and my earlier point about not liking driving these massive trucks makes that tough.

Ask her what she thinks.... thought she liked full sizers ?

She claims to...but who knows what's wrong with it. There will be something.

I'm going to guess lack of sunroof. I sent it to her, so we'll see.

[CaleDeRoo]

It has a heated steering wheel

[ChrisoftheNorth]

It has a heated steering wheel

It does!

It has everything...but I'm sure it's missing something critical that I don't know about.

[Apex]

It has a heated steering wheel

It does!

It has everything...but I'm sure it's missing something critical that I don't know about.

Cooled seats?

Edit: Euro-flair is missing... no Stelvio badge.

[CaleDeRoo]

Air suspension for entry and egress mode

[ChrisoftheNorth]

It does!

It has everything...but I'm sure it's missing something critical that I don't know about.

Cooled seats?

Edit: Euro-flair is missing... no Stelvio badge.

She hasn't mentioned the need for cooled seats yet. Her Saab had them and I have no idea if she ever used them.

She's not much of a badge whore, surprisingly...but she might become one because she was particularly smitten with that Stelvio.

[max225]

It does!

It has everything...but I'm sure it's missing something critical that I don't know about.

Cooled seats?

Edit: Euro-flair is missing... no Stelvio badge.

Spain conquered Mexico a few years back. still has an ethnic kick as its made there. Ayeeeee papi

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Air suspension for entry and egress mode

She's 5'9 and DGAF about climbing into a

[CaleDeRoo]

My friend has a JGC overland and removed the side steps. His can only get in with it dropped all the way

[ChrisoftheNorth]

35s fit on a Rubicon with zero modifications. It's the only thing I would do to a Rubicon. I have no interest in lifts.

This is why I'd just order up a Rubicon.

A low optioned Rubicon would be perfect IMO.

[Johnny_P]

I need to crawl under the tonight and check all of the front suspension connections. I've got a slight vibration-based rattle I can feel through the steering, probably endlinks or shock mounts.

[max225]

I need to crawl under the tonight and check all of the front suspension connections. I've got a slight vibration-based rattle I can feel through the steering, probably endlinks or shock mounts.

[CaleDeRoo]

I need to crawl under the tonight and check all of the front suspension connections. I've got a slight vibration-based rattle I can feel through the steering, probably endlinks or shock mounts.

Trade for new 2018 JL

[Apex]

I need to crawl under the tonight and check all of the front suspension connections. I've got a slight vibration-based rattle I can feel through the steering, probably endlinks or shock mounts.

Trade for new 2018 JL

[max225]

Trade for new 2018 JL

Don't tempt me.

Saharas certainly have 10k sitting on the hood... should still be able to get a decent amount of coin for the JK.... while you can.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Don't tempt me.

Saharas certainly have 10k sitting on the hood... should still be able to get a decent amount of coin for the JK.... while you can.

Nothing has $10k on the hood around me.

[Johnny_P]

I need to crawl under the tonight and check all of the front suspension connections. I've got a slight vibration-based rattle I can feel through the steering, probably endlinks or shock mounts.

Trade for new 2018 JL