Car needed

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300hp, AWD, liftback, big ass back seat

Nice interior. They look great, too.

[max225]

The irony isn’t lost but they’re awesome dailies.

I've been tempted by the donkey dick shifter.

I almost bought one… but the sold it to another so I got the hulk taco. It drove great … shit ton of power for what it is. Felt as fast as mk7.5 R

[D Griff]

Elantra N if a GTI is being suggested.

May not meet the relaxed drive requirement but it would definitely be fun. Not a hatch either but it has a big trunk.

Agreed but seems too far from his original asks. GTI ticks all the boxes while refraining from being depressing.

Arteons look awesome, I always forget about them.

[MrH42]

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300hp, AWD, liftback, big ass back seat

Wow, good shout.

[max225]

Totally forgot the Cross tranny sport. Needs to be added to this list

[max225]

https://www.diablosubaru.com/new/Subaru ... 06c503.htm

They are even discounted locally

[Desertbreh]

Totally forgot the Cross tranny sport. Needs to be added to this list

Even I, serial Cross-Tranny hater, have to admit that this packs a lot of punch for 30 grand brand new.

[max225]

Totally forgot the Cross tranny sport. Needs to be added to this list

Even I, serial Cross-Tranny hater, have to admit that this packs a lot of punch for 30 grand brand new.

The lesbian car brand continuously improved it over the generations and even though it has a continuously vaginal tranny it seems to be decent to drive, very reliable, easy to maintain and gets decent MPGs... sadly it looks worse in the current gen but it does have more space than prior. It seems to check all the boxes... and it doesn't depreciate much either.

[golftdibrad1]

Even I, serial Cross-Tranny hater, have to admit that this packs a lot of punch for 30 grand brand new.

The lesbian car brand continuously improved it over the generations and even though it has a continuously vaginal tranny it seems to be decent to drive, very reliable, easy to maintain and gets decent MPGs... sadly it looks worse in the current gen but it does have more space than prior. It seems to check all the boxes... and it doesn't depreciate much either.

mean streets of philly, 2 kids, 1 dog, and one wife will depreciate anything new 50% in 2 years.

[max225]

The lesbian car brand continuously improved it over the generations and even though it has a continuously vaginal tranny it seems to be decent to drive, very reliable, easy to maintain and gets decent MPGs... sadly it looks worse in the current gen but it does have more space than prior. It seems to check all the boxes... and it doesn't depreciate much either.

mean streets of philly, 2 kids, 1 dog, and one wife will depreciate anything new 50% in 2 years.

Possibly... but at least it's not that high to fall from...

[Melon2.0]

https://www.diablosubaru.com/new/Subaru ... 06c503.htm

They are even discounted locally

[Johnny_P]

https://www.diablosubaru.com/new/Subaru ... 06c503.htm

They are even discounted locally

Oh wow that looks awful with the yellow all over it.
I think Subaru makes an Impreza Rs now. That could do it maybe. But that screen. Idk how this is better than a Volvo V60.

[Johnny_P]

The lesbian car brand continuously improved it over the generations and even though it has a continuously vaginal tranny it seems to be decent to drive, very reliable, easy to maintain and gets decent MPGs... sadly it looks worse in the current gen but it does have more space than prior. It seems to check all the boxes... and it doesn't depreciate much either.

mean streets of philly, 2 kids, 1 dog, and one wife will depreciate anything new 50% in 2 years.

The damage sustained to the CRV is impressive.

[Johnny_P]

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300hp, AWD, liftback, big ass back seat

Thought about this but something like a GTI is better for my use case I think. That hatch is more of a trunk with a lift back. Same as the current civic hatch.

But I really don’t want a GTI. In that case from VW honestly the Tiguan is more interesting to me because it’s so much less stressful to drive a CUV. But then the fucking dog can’t get in it again.

Been trying to identify what we want it to do has been difficult. Do we need it to hold the two kids or not? 1 kid and a dog? The whole fam plus dog or not?

The CRV does mostly ok with whole fam plus dog but there’s no luggage room then. V60 is marginally better maybe. She doesn’t want a big vehicle.

[Johnny_P]

My mom has an insight which is a civic hybrid really. I don’t get the hype. It’s ok I guess but rides kind of rough, loud, and feels pretty cramped due to the raked windshield. Like the CRV is basically a Benz compared to it.

The new new is a lot nicer IMO.

yes the five seat CUV is depressing in how it drives but also just the overall blending in. I mean, if you can't beat em, join em I guess.

When did they stop making Mazda 6? Those were huge inside and pretty nice and great on gas.

Interesting statement. They’re depressing if your intent is to drive fast. You can’t drive fast around me. Highway are 55 mph. Main roads are 35 and back roads are 25. It would be nice if the CRV had a stiffer rear sway bar and about 30 more hp but really it’s so comfortable and since it’s a series hybrid it never shifts. It’s really quite nice and relaxing to drive.

I’ve been down the enthusiast road and it’s just not for me anymore. I just want something “normal person nice” that doesn’t feel like a total shitbox or a complete turtle.

[coogles]

Thought about this but something like a GTI is better for my use case I think. That hatch is more of a trunk with a lift back. Same as the current civic hatch.

But I really don’t want a GTI. In that case from VW honestly the Tiguan is more interesting to me because it’s so much less stressful to drive a CUV. But then the fucking dog can’t get in it again.

Been trying to identify what we want it to do has been difficult. Do we need it to hold the two kids or not? 1 kid and a dog? The whole fam plus dog or not?

The CRV does mostly ok with whole fam plus dog but there’s no luggage room then. V60 is marginally better maybe. She doesn’t want a big vehicle.

With your use case it'd be hard to go wrong with a Subaru. The whole point of them is to be durable and offer pothole-smashing ability. If you need more cargo room an Outback would be perfect, the cargo area is enormous, but you're back to dealing with the big screen. In turbo form they're not terrible to drive, but the n/a 2.5 kinda sucks. It's a lot of car for the non-turbo engine. The 2.5XT is as quick as anyone really needs.

[Johnny_P]

Thought about this but something like a GTI is better for my use case I think. That hatch is more of a trunk with a lift back. Same as the current civic hatch.

But I really don’t want a GTI. In that case from VW honestly the Tiguan is more interesting to me because it’s so much less stressful to drive a CUV. But then the fucking dog can’t get in it again.

Been trying to identify what we want it to do has been difficult. Do we need it to hold the two kids or not? 1 kid and a dog? The whole fam plus dog or not?

The CRV does mostly ok with whole fam plus dog but there’s no luggage room then. V60 is marginally better maybe. She doesn’t want a big vehicle.

With your use case it'd be hard to go wrong with a Subaru. The whole point of them is to be durable and offer pothole-smashing ability. If you need more cargo room an Outback would be perfect, the cargo area is enormous, but you're back to dealing with the big screen. In turbo form they're not terrible to drive, but the n/a 2.5 kinda sucks. It's a lot of car for the non-turbo engine. The 2.5XT is as quick as anyone really needs.

Yeah outback has been brought up a few times in our discussions. Worth a look if I can find a turbo one. I guess the info screen could be manageable.

[max225]

Yea I dunno … turbo Subaru … doesn’t seem like it’s worth the hassle also likely to start with a $4

[max225]

So @Johnny what are you test driving ?

[coogles]

Yeah outback has been brought up a few times in our discussions. Worth a look if I can find a turbo one. I guess the info screen could be manageable.

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/ff6a ... 61ba97e33/

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d100 ... 8517081d4/

[Johnny_P]

So @Johnny what are you test driving ?

There’s no time to test drive anything. It will likely be a blind buy.

[Johnny_P]

Yea I dunno … turbo Subaru … doesn’t seem like it’s worth the hassle also likely to start with a $4

Plenty at the $30k price point. So should just cut it.

So I think it’s either that or the V60 CC.

Read a bit that the SPA Volvos including the V60 Cross Country have an issue with the disc brakes / pads shuddering. One carfax listed this poor fuck paid for 3 full brake jobs in 18k miles. Forums suggest the fix is aftermarket rotors and pads. I don’t really want to tackle that in my driveway.

V60 - possible brake issues, premium fuel at $1 more a gallon
Outback - screen of death, possibly annoying to drive due to CVT and turbo lag

Dunno which is better.

[coogles]

Plenty at the $30k price point. So should just cut it.

So I think it’s either that or the V60 CC.

Read a bit that the SPA Volvos including the V60 Cross Country have an issue with the disc brakes / pads shuddering. Forums suggest the fix is aftermarket rotors and pads. I don’t really want to tackle that in my driveway.

V60 - possible brake issues, premium fuel at $1 more a gallon
Outback - screen of death, possibly annoying to drive due to CVT and turbo lag

Dunno which is better.

I have no input on the V60, but when I was considering the Outback XT I had no complaints with the CVT. The fake shifts were convincing enough and there's plenty of torque. The only thing I remember hating was the stop-start system, it was unbelievably bad and obtrusive, but the button to turn it off was buried in menus. 99% sure that's been fixed via software updates and now it's right on the main screen.

[max225]

There is no way in hell I’d recommend a Chinese Swedish car over a Japanese one … especially if you’re looking for trouble free life

[max225]

https://www.diablosubaru.com/new/Subaru ... e841b6.htm

They still seem like they start with a 4 or close to it … decent discounts on them… also we have tons in stock (50+) per dealer here