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Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:06 pm
by D Griff
Closest comp I can find - https://www.carvana.com/vehicle/1282587 ... n=referral

$26K :mindblown: ... mine was $5K less a year ago with less miles.

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Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:08 pm
by max225
D Griff wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:02 pm It seems like 328i F30s with similar miles to mine are asking $20k-27K... most look worse. BUT there are 2014s with higher miles and worse colors/spec being sold for $14-15K. :notsure:
https://www.carsmithmotors.com/inventor ... 2448%2C375

https://www.carsmithmotors.com/inventor ... 2452%2C745

These are my comps for you... 23k retail .. I really liked this :dillerman: this means he is getting them sub 20k for sure.

You should be able to get 18-20k PP IMO. Which brings carmax down into the mid teens at best

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Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:14 pm
by D Griff
Well, Carvana offered me $15,645. COuld be worse.

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Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:16 pm
by max225
D Griff wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:14 pm Well, Carvana offered me $15,645. COuld be worse.
Spot on :like:

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Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:16 pm
by D Griff
max225 wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:08 pm
D Griff wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:02 pm It seems like 328i F30s with similar miles to mine are asking $20k-27K... most look worse. BUT there are 2014s with higher miles and worse colors/spec being sold for $14-15K. :notsure:
https://www.carsmithmotors.com/inventor ... 2448%2C375

https://www.carsmithmotors.com/inventor ... 2452%2C745

These are my comps for you... 23k retail .. I really liked this :dillerman: this means he is getting them sub 20k for sure.

You should be able to get 18-20k PP IMO. Which brings carmax down into the mid teens at best
:word:

I think I may attempt PP. I shall take it by local :dillerman: and Carmax first. I'll have to wait until next weekend to put the exhaust back to stock and address the dang CEL.

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Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:17 pm
by max225
I am sort of pissed because I think I would have certainly considered your car at this pricing... if it had better lights+stereo it would have been a 100% done :dill: from my end. :( fking hindsight.

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Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:21 pm
by ChrisoftheNorth
D Griff wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:14 pm Well, Carvana offered me $15,645. COuld be worse.
Carvana is super low ballers. I think they're hedging for a terrible condition car, plus the "convenience" of them picking it up from your house.

IIRC, they offered $11k for our Volt.

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Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:22 pm
by MexicanYarisTK
Detroit wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:03 pm
max225 wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:59 pm

I get the struggle... but every car is different... comparing a 200X C5 to a 201X BMW is quite difficult... as the demographics shopping these are diff as well.
Yea, tons more :amir: that's a MUCH better demographic to deal with

"My friend, I will buy BMW for $8k cash, best offer"
bes pdice :lol: seriously, one of the guys in my car group who works at a dealership, his coworker accidentally listed a 2016 Civic for $2,000 when he actually meant $22,000, endless indians showed up like it's an auction :lolgasm:

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Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:23 pm
by D Griff
Detroit wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:21 pm
D Griff wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:14 pm Well, Carvana offered me $15,645. COuld be worse.
Carvana is super low ballers. I think they're hedging for a terrible condition car, plus the "convenience" of them picking it up from your house.

IIRC, they offered $11k for our Volt.
Yeah nice to know the low bar is almost $16K. I still think it's worth $20k :iono:

It is a very nice car... for someone else.

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Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:23 pm
by D Griff
max225 wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:17 pm I am sort of pissed because I think I would have certainly considered your car at this pricing... if it had better lights+stereo it would have been a 100% done :dill: from my end. :( fking hindsight.
Ehhhh... t go 335 to M3 to 328... naaahhhh. The Mini is way better and wasn't a ton more.

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Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:27 pm
by max225
D Griff wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:23 pm
max225 wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:17 pm I am sort of pissed because I think I would have certainly considered your car at this pricing... if it had better lights+stereo it would have been a 100% done :dill: from my end. :( fking hindsight.
Ehhhh... t go 335 to M3 to 328... naaahhhh. The Mini is way better and wasn't a ton more.
It was a fair amount more once I factor everything in. (Taxes etc) we would have worked something out where my exposure would have been far lower. I think my final OTD will be around 26k :disgust:

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Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:51 pm
by ChrisoftheNorth
D Griff wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:23 pm
Detroit wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:21 pm
Carvana is super low ballers. I think they're hedging for a terrible condition car, plus the "convenience" of them picking it up from your house.

IIRC, they offered $11k for our Volt.
Yeah nice to know the low bar is almost $16K. I still think it's worth $20k :iono:

It is a very nice car... for someone else.
It's only "worth" what someone is willing to pay. Right now, it's almost $16k.

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Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:31 pm
by Desertbreh
D Griff wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:16 pm
max225 wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:08 pm

https://www.carsmithmotors.com/inventor ... 2448%2C375

https://www.carsmithmotors.com/inventor ... 2452%2C745

These are my comps for you... 23k retail .. I really liked this :dillerman: this means he is getting them sub 20k for sure.

You should be able to get 18-20k PP IMO. Which brings carmax down into the mid teens at best
:word:

I think I may attempt PP. I shall take it by local :dillerman: and Carmax first. I'll have to wait until next weekend to put the exhaust back to stock and address the dang CEL.
Have you tried the KBB "Guaranteed Buyback?" Worth a shot.

PP is fine BUT give yourself at least 4 months. It will take that long for a buyer who wants the car and doesn't want to fuck you for it shows up.

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Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:36 pm
by Desertbreh
max225 wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:02 pm
Desertbreh wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:01 pm

Nova
Time traveling man delivers... up to 1 month now. :like:
:angrypanda:

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Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:43 pm
by D Griff
Desertbreh wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:31 pm
D Griff wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:16 pm

:word:

I think I may attempt PP. I shall take it by local :dillerman: and Carmax first. I'll have to wait until next weekend to put the exhaust back to stock and address the dang CEL.
Have you tried the KBB "Guaranteed Buyback?" Worth a shot.

PP is fine BUT give yourself at least 4 months. It will take that long for a buyer who wants the car and doesn't want to fuck you for it shows up.
Nah, I'll check that out, thanks.

Four months is fine, I really am in no rush to have it gone. My only concern is not really wanting to drop $17K today and then wait four months, but I guess it doesn't really matter. My savings account pays less than the loan costs anyway.

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Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:46 pm
by Desertbreh
D Griff wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:43 pm
Desertbreh wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:31 pm

Have you tried the KBB "Guaranteed Buyback?" Worth a shot.

PP is fine BUT give yourself at least 4 months. It will take that long for a buyer who wants the car and doesn't want to fuck you for it shows up.
Nah, I'll check that out, thanks.

Four months is fine, I really am in no rush to have it gone. My only concern is not really wanting to drop $17K today and then wait four months, but I guess it doesn't really matter. My savings account pays less than the loan costs anyway.
I gave up on both the GTI and Mercedes after 2-3 months, only to get a call from willing buyer who was CRUSHED that I still did not have my enthusiast owned vehicle a week or two later. Give it time.

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Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:53 pm
by D Griff
Desertbreh wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:46 pm
D Griff wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:43 pm

Nah, I'll check that out, thanks.

Four months is fine, I really am in no rush to have it gone. My only concern is not really wanting to drop $17K today and then wait four months, but I guess it doesn't really matter. My savings account pays less than the loan costs anyway.
I gave up on both the GTI and Mercedes after 2-3 months, only to get a call from willing buyer who was CRUSHED that I still did not have my enthusiast owned vehicle a week or two later. Give it time.
That is sort of my thought, while rare, the buyer for a manual Estoril three series does exist.

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Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:05 pm
by Desertbreh
D Griff wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:53 pm
Desertbreh wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:46 pm

I gave up on both the GTI and Mercedes after 2-3 months, only to get a call from willing buyer who was CRUSHED that I still did not have my enthusiast owned vehicle a week or two later. Give it time.
That is sort of my thought, while rare, the buyer for a manual Estoril three series does exist.
Plus the M blue waxables. It's a cool car.

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Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:09 pm
by D Griff
Desertbreh wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:05 pm
D Griff wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:53 pm

That is sort of my thought, while rare, the buyer for a manual Estoril three series does exist.
Plus the M blue waxables. It's a cool car.
You interested? His and hers in The Best Color and The :poop: Color.

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Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:14 pm
by Desertbreh
D Griff wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:09 pm
Desertbreh wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:05 pm

Plus the M blue waxables. It's a cool car.
You interested? His and hers in The Best Color and The :poop: Color.
You only need one Ultimate Depreciation Machine. I wish I had sprung for the bloo brakes but that meant adjustable dampers too....$2600 or some such. I also would have gotten the "Sound and Power" for myself but the exhaust would have annoyed ze woman. I got my car almost as cheap as I could with the B58, and it was still $60K OTD. Worst thing we've spent money on in years.

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Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:16 pm
by D Griff
These are great cars at $20-25K. $30-35K maybe with the six cylinder. New prices are ridiculous for sure, especially considering depreciation. As long as you don't :plac: it doesn't really matter, but man... I love thinking about how owner one of my car spent $1.30 per mile on depreciation, at least.

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Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:25 pm
by max225
D Griff wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:16 pm These are great cars at $20-25K. $30-35K maybe with the six cylinder. New prices are ridiculous for sure, especially considering depreciation. As long as you don't :plac: it doesn't really matter, but man... I love thinking about how owner one of my car spent $1.30 per mile on depreciation, at least.
My 2016 M3 cost me 45 cents a mile in "depreciation". The cheapest one is the crown vic for me, 2.2 cents per mile. :lol:

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Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:34 pm
by D Griff
max225 wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:25 pm
D Griff wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:16 pm These are great cars at $20-25K. $30-35K maybe with the six cylinder. New prices are ridiculous for sure, especially considering depreciation. As long as you don't :plac: it doesn't really matter, but man... I love thinking about how owner one of my car spent $1.30 per mile on depreciation, at least.
My 2016 M3 cost me 45 cents a mile in "depreciation". The cheapest one is the crown vic for me, 2.2 cents per mile. :lol:
This appears to be shaping up to around $0.40-$0.45, but we'll see the final numbers. C5 is a whopping $0.17/mile in depreciation for me, and getting "cheaper" by the day.

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Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:35 pm
by D Griff
Also intereting tidbit, since C5 acquisition in September 2014, I have spent $7,577 on maintenance and modz.

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Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:40 pm
by max225
D Griff wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:35 pm Also intereting tidbit, since C5 acquisition in September 2014, I have spent $7,577 on maintenance and modz.
Maintenance really adds up. My crown vic is at $9800, the purchase price of the car was $7700. Things really add up over time/miles. in particular TIRES. :yikes: And a set lasts 60k+ miles on that thing.