So it is super tough to know where all the money is going... SO what say ye? And if you do, do you use software of sorts to help?
Like I found out we spent well into 5 figures on restaurants...


Also somehow we spent $6500 at costco in the 2022...

Interesting …. We do 50/50 as well …Huckleberry wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:44 pm We don't sit down and do budgets. We keep separate accounts and split the bills 50/50. As long as the bills get paid each month, we don't concern ourselves with what the other spends money on.
This has been what Michelle and I do, but we are planning on a joint account for the mortgage/utilities/general ownership expenses.Huckleberry wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:44 pm We don't sit down and do budgets. We keep separate accounts and split the bills 50/50. As long as the bills get paid each month, we don't concern ourselves with what the other spends money on.
This is us. We have an (estimated) budget that seems to always be way too low because of random 1-time expenses.
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D Griff wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 8:05 am I don't budget at all, I never have. I've always just been pretty naturally frugal and can live within my means without fussing with spreadsheets.isn't too bad but she's certainly gone down the lifestyle bloat path a bit, as have I. We generally spend 'extra' money on stuff like trips, hobbies, etc. but put max into 401Ks, I put 15% into my company stock buying program and sell it when it releases each six months, that is the main contribution to cash savings and/or larger expenses (the last batch plus selling the BMW will pay for almost all of the new car for example). If the cash savings get too big, I'll have to figure out somewhere to park it, but for now as it grew I'll just put it into a depreciating car I don't need
We also have a 15 year mortgage... I am not really compelled to save more beyond that, what is the point? May as well send it and be happy.
I guess I'm pretty lucky to have the privilege ofbut
, even as a single person making $50K I didn't budget at all and always ended up in the black. The few years I had salaries in the $30-40K range shortly after college plus student loans, I was pretty poor
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IIRC, we went over this and concluded you were
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welp, like i said we try to save about 1k a month and on average its 500-600, so to answer your question yes we have a budget and no we dont hit it often.
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So much
We have a detailed budget but it has become a lot harder to hit anymore. The "fun" line item has been zero for years. Now we're taking from savings to pay for increased spending on taxes, insurance, healthcare, and food. Everything keeps going up so fast that I have stopped bothering to update the budget recently.
Yeah the real question here is whether the budget guy/spreadsheet guy/bean counter/LIFE IS DEPRECIATION guy here, Marshal Zhukov, is really gaining anything by a budget. Because errbody pulls their weight at Chez Zhukov, the AZN ain't eating Bon Bon's and driving a Range Rover to buy Gucci bags, she's driving her BEATR Acura to her techbro manager jerb and pulling it. If putting her on a budget is like putting her in the stockade and then she divorces you, was the budget effective?D Griff wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 11:10 amSo muchWhy suffer if there is no need to do so? What is to be gained (assuming we're not coming out in the red each month/year)?
My wife likes budgeting/spreadshitting. She sometimes will create something and then always just goes over... so why bother?
We live in a cheapass tiny house, have no other debt, have made responsible choices and are cogs in the corporate wheel, I don't really want more pain if I don't need it. If say one of us lost our job or something it would be a different story.
I look at life throughDesertbreh wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 11:26 amYeah the real question here is whether the budget guy/spreadsheet guy/bean counter/LIFE IS DEPRECIATION guy here, Marshal Zhukov, is really gaining anything by a budget. Because errbody pulls their weight at Chez Zhukov, the AZN ain't eating Bon Bon's and driving a Range Rover to buy Gucci bags, she's driving her BEATR Acura to her techbro manager jerb and pulling it. If putting her on a budget is like putting her in the stockade and then she divorces you, was the budget effective?D Griff wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 11:10 am
So muchWhy suffer if there is no need to do so? What is to be gained (assuming we're not coming out in the red each month/year)?
My wife likes budgeting/spreadshitting. She sometimes will create something and then always just goes over... so why bother?
We live in a cheapass tiny house, have no other debt, have made responsible choices and are cogs in the corporate wheel, I don't really want more pain if I don't need it. If say one of us lost our job or something it would be a different story.
On a personal note I spent way too much money last year on.........shit. I have actually reached that point in my life where some of my peers are starting to have health problems and a couple died last year. So I've glanced at some of my purchases and wonder if I really needed to add that to the estate sale. I am going to try and live life a lot cleaner this year.
I do look at our CC statements each month and try to keep things in check, making sure to avoid subscriptions that are redundant, over indulgence on food/drink, etc. I'm not living life one cell at a time though, that is the OPPOSITE of freedom, IMO.max225 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 11:54 amI look at life throughDesertbreh wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 11:26 am
Yeah the real question here is whether the budget guy/spreadsheet guy/bean counter/LIFE IS DEPRECIATION guy here, Marshal Zhukov, is really gaining anything by a budget. Because errbody pulls their weight at Chez Zhukov, the AZN ain't eating Bon Bon's and driving a Range Rover to buy Gucci bags, she's driving her BEATR Acura to her techbro manager jerb and pulling it. If putting her on a budget is like putting her in the stockade and then she divorces you, was the budget effective?
On a personal note I spent way too much money last year on.........shit. I have actually reached that point in my life where some of my peers are starting to have health problems and a couple died last year. So I've glanced at some of my purchases and wonder if I really needed to add that to the estate sale. I am going to try and live life a lot cleaner this year.so to me it is important. Budgets are important. They got me where I am. And I am trying to stay here.
If say I set target for ourselves and then blow past it (which is happening). It warrants a lifestyle change/adjustment. One thing I realized is how much we spend on restaurants... I think we will cut that back as spending a midwest mortgage on take out food is![]()
There is a debate on future cars/houses etc. How the F do you fit that into life without having a budget? do you know how much your car/house etc is TRULY costing you. Or do you wake up one say and say... omg my savings is negative every month how can that be?! For example... I have a line item for house repair... $200 a month, does it get hit every month? no... but it sure as hell does over the course of the year. And this way I don't have a "surprise furnace repair" guess what... I budgeted for it.
That's the idea... I get it the average american loves to play four square at the dealer and shop payments but that's not how I or most of you here operate so I was trying to align and see if y'all are doing budgets at home.