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Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
I have a hard time with this one. The government didn't create the vaccine, it's only handling distribution. FDA approval, sure, and the .gov is largely paying for the vaccines, but if anything the two first covid-19 vaccines coming from the US is as strong of an endorsement you could get for the private pharmaceutical industry in this country as opposed to the totally publicly funded healthcare industries in other 1st world countries. Yeah, I wouldn't trust a vaccine coming out of China or Russia, either. Privatized healthcare and the layer of insurance bureaucracy obviously comes with its own problems, but the massive funding available to these pharmaceutical companies to develop treatments and vaccines in such a short period of time is nothing short of astonishing. If it's distrust of big pharma, major industry, capitalist society, etc., those dots I can maybe connect. But neither Donald Trump nor Joe Biden, their administrations, or Congress, had any hand vaccine development.
coogles wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:41 amI have a hard time with this one. The government didn't create the vaccine, it's only handling distribution. FDA approval, sure, and the .gov is largely paying for the vaccines, but if anything the two first covid-19 vaccines coming from the US is as strong of an endorsement you could get for the private pharmaceutical industry in this country as opposed to the totally publicly funded healthcare industries in other 1st world countries. Yeah, I wouldn't trust a vaccine coming out of China or Russia, either. Privatized healthcare and the layer of insurance bureaucracy obviously comes with its own problems, but the massive funding available to these pharmaceutical companies to develop treatments and vaccines in such a short period of time is nothing short of astonishing. If it's distrust of big pharma, major industry, capitalist society, etc., those dots I can maybe connect. But neither Donald Trump nor Joe Biden, their administrations, or Congress, had any hand vaccine development.
They had plenty of say in the vaccine approval, pushing the FDA etc.coogles wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:41 amI have a hard time with this one. The government didn't create the vaccine, it's only handling distribution. FDA approval, sure, and the .gov is largely paying for the vaccines, but if anything the two first covid-19 vaccines coming from the US is as strong of an endorsement you could get for the private pharmaceutical industry in this country as opposed to the totally publicly funded healthcare industries in other 1st world countries. Yeah, I wouldn't trust a vaccine coming out of China or Russia, either. Privatized healthcare and the layer of insurance bureaucracy obviously comes with its own problems, but the massive funding available to these pharmaceutical companies to develop treatments and vaccines in such a short period of time is nothing short of astonishing. If it's distrust of big pharma, major industry, capitalist society, etc., those dots I can maybe connect. But neither Donald Trump nor Joe Biden, their administrations, or Congress, had any hand vaccine development.
This has always been the case, and it always will be the case.max225 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:57 amThey had plenty of say in the vaccine approval, pushing the FDA etc.coogles wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:41 am
I have a hard time with this one. The government didn't create the vaccine, it's only handling distribution. FDA approval, sure, and the .gov is largely paying for the vaccines, but if anything the two first covid-19 vaccines coming from the US is as strong of an endorsement you could get for the private pharmaceutical industry in this country as opposed to the totally publicly funded healthcare industries in other 1st world countries. Yeah, I wouldn't trust a vaccine coming out of China or Russia, either. Privatized healthcare and the layer of insurance bureaucracy obviously comes with its own problems, but the massive funding available to these pharmaceutical companies to develop treatments and vaccines in such a short period of time is nothing short of astonishing. If it's distrust of big pharma, major industry, capitalist society, etc., those dots I can maybe connect. But neither Donald Trump nor Joe Biden, their administrations, or Congress, had any hand vaccine development.
People are just tired of the ruling class, that’s not hard to understand, worldwide.
Government distrust is a global phenomenon
I'm talking about the overall global trend of increasing distrust in .gov, which I think was what Max was getting after.coogles wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:41 amI have a hard time with this one. The government didn't create the vaccine, it's only handling distribution. FDA approval, sure, and the .gov is largely paying for the vaccines, but if anything the two first covid-19 vaccines coming from the US is as strong of an endorsement you could get for the private pharmaceutical industry in this country as opposed to the totally publicly funded healthcare industries in other 1st world countries. Yeah, I wouldn't trust a vaccine coming out of China or Russia, either. Privatized healthcare and the layer of insurance bureaucracy obviously comes with its own problems, but the massive funding available to these pharmaceutical companies to develop treatments and vaccines in such a short period of time is nothing short of astonishing. If it's distrust of big pharma, major industry, capitalist society, etc., those dots I can maybe connect. But neither Donald Trump nor Joe Biden, their administrations, or Congress, had any hand vaccine development.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
.gov paid billions to fund vaccine development, and also private contributions from, among others, Dolly Parton, contributed as well, so it was hardly a total private pharma industry success.coogles wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:41 amI have a hard time with this one. The government didn't create the vaccine, it's only handling distribution. FDA approval, sure, and the .gov is largely paying for the vaccines, but if anything the two first covid-19 vaccines coming from the US is as strong of an endorsement you could get for the private pharmaceutical industry in this country as opposed to the totally publicly funded healthcare industries in other 1st world countries. Yeah, I wouldn't trust a vaccine coming out of China or Russia, either. Privatized healthcare and the layer of insurance bureaucracy obviously comes with its own problems, but the massive funding available to these pharmaceutical companies to develop treatments and vaccines in such a short period of time is nothing short of astonishing. If it's distrust of big pharma, major industry, capitalist society, etc., those dots I can maybe connect. But neither Donald Trump nor Joe Biden, their administrations, or Congress, had any hand vaccine development.
Work is off the rails with
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
Staying pretty busy at work recently... having these new "leadershit/management" duties glues me to my desk a bit more which is kind of
Yea I am trying to plan a big trip with it but having issues due to ... drumroll ... covid. Shit is confusing af still. But case counts are finally dropping like crazy out here.D Griff wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 1:39 pmStaying pretty busy at work recently... having these new "leadershit/management" duties glues me to my desk a bit more which is kind of
Shopping E90 M3s a little
Looking forward to the weekend.
I think I may take lunch and go for a quick bike ride, 49F and sunny at the moment which is the best weather we've seen all week.
What is new with you? Saw the Taco review update, glad you're still enjoying the![]()
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Just go for a hike. Hiking trails all over, including my own backyard.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
We did the big cross country trip though like 26 states last month let me know if you have any COVID travel questions. All-in-all I felt our trip was quite safe, we didn't really interact at length with anyone outside of each other.max225 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 1:43 pmYea I am trying to plan a big trip with it but having issues due to ... drumroll ... covid. Shit is confusing af still. But case counts are finally dropping like crazy out here.D Griff wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 1:39 pm
Staying pretty busy at work recently... having these new "leadershit/management" duties glues me to my desk a bit more which is kind of
Shopping E90 M3s a little
Looking forward to the weekend.
I think I may take lunch and go for a quick bike ride, 49F and sunny at the moment which is the best weather we've seen all week.
What is new with you? Saw the Taco review update, glad you're still enjoying the![]()
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E90 m3 ? Do tell.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:05 pm DFD. The forum where everybody makes the same choices and then tells anybody trying to join the club that they are the stupidest motherfucker to ever walk the earth.
How is Florida/Arizona/Nevada ?D Griff wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 1:49 pmWe did the big cross country trip though like 26 states last month let me know if you have any COVID travel questions. All-in-all I felt our trip was quite safe, we didn't really interact at length with anyone outside of each other.
I sort of convinced myself in your thread that E90 M3 is a solid investment car...I probably won't
but I'm kind of bored with the C5 and want something different. They check a lot of boxes for me and I've always loved them.
Yeah I :remember: it. This would be my only car, but I don't really drive much and don't foresee driving a lot of miles any time soon. The Beep Beep is our primary trip vehicle. It would probably see 5K miles/year and a handful of track days. I don't think I'd want to take a BMW M car to the track nearly as much as a 'vette due to consumables cost, but they seem more than up for the task from time to time.max225 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 2:10 pmHow is Florida/Arizona/Nevada ?D Griff wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 1:49 pm
We did the big cross country trip though like 26 states last month let me know if you have any COVID travel questions. All-in-all I felt our trip was quite safe, we didn't really interact at length with anyone outside of each other.
I sort of convinced myself in your thread that E90 M3 is a solid investment car...I probably won't
but I'm kind of bored with the C5 and want something different. They check a lot of boxes for me and I've always loved them.
E90 is great if you can keep the miles off of it. It is vastly different from the C5. I got an E46 M3
Right after my C5... as you can see it didn’t last
That is awesome man!razr390 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 2:06 pm Hey everyone.
Just got done touring the San Antonio Food Bank because we are doing fundraising for them, and possible volunteering in the future.
It is anoperation. They feed over 120k people per week within 16 counties. Their facility is a huge Costco-style warehouse. They also have a farm that they grow some produce and also some chickens that lay fresh eggs. Truly awesome to see the great work being done.
Those may potentially become an appreciating asset in near future. Those things are wild from my experience as a passenger.D Griff wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 1:39 pmStaying pretty busy at work recently... having these new "leadershit/management" duties glues me to my desk a bit more which is kind of
Shopping E90 M3s a little
Looking forward to the weekend.
I think I may take lunch and go for a quick bike ride, 49F and sunny at the moment which is the best weather we've seen all week.
What is new with you? Saw the Taco review update, glad you're still enjoying the![]()
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That's prettyrazr390 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 2:06 pm Hey everyone.
Just got done touring the San Antonio Food Bank because we are doing fundraising for them, and possible volunteering in the future.
It is anoperation. They feed over 120k people per week within 16 counties. Their facility is a huge Costco-style warehouse. They also have a farm that they grow some produce and also some chickens that lay fresh eggs. Truly awesome to see the great work being done.
I do think an M car is nearly perfect at 2-3k miles a year. It still exercises it, but it keeps the miles/:fullretard: maintenance low and enjoyment high. It is :ironic: because they make good DD's but in the end it makes far more sense to DD a 328 and to have fun in an M3, they are vastly different vehicles contrary to the fact that they look the same.D Griff wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 2:26 pmYeah I :remember: it. This would be my only car, but I don't really drive much and don't foresee driving a lot of miles any time soon. The Beep Beep is our primary trip vehicle. It would probably see 5K miles/year and a handful of track days. I don't think I'd want to take a BMW M car to the track nearly as much as a 'vette due to consumables cost, but they seem more than up for the task from time to time.
Objectively I think the Corvette is a better vehicle for me (cheaper, more reliable/low maintenance, up to the tasks of track duty and such) and I do still like it, but just a bit bored. The answer is really another Corvette but even a nicer 'vette is still sort of the same thing.
A few other ideas I'm tossing around - S2000, 06-11 Civic Si (probably would do that in addition to the 'vette but don't really want multiple cars), something mid engine (basically Cayman/Boxster/MR2 are kind of it here).
Re: travel - we went to Northern FL in June - it was manic, we were scared to leave the beach/airbnb for the most part, people everywhere, ZFG on masks... the more urban parts are probably fine. That said, we had a good time, ate out at a few places with spaced outdoor seating, enjoyed chillin' on the beach and riding our bikes around and it was a really fun trip.
NV/AZ were both kind of business as usual. I would stay away from cities, it is a bit depressing as 1/2 people are basically homeless now in city centers, but suburban/rural areas are fine. We stayed in numerous hotels in AZ/UT/NV and all were very safe, plenty of food available for take out. Indoor eating was available but we passed on it. Outdoor was great when warm enough, just try to make reservations - NV was at 25% capacity when we visited so it's tougher to just walk in to a place and be guaranteed a table, particularly if you want to be outside.
Traveling itself was a non issue, gas stations and rest areas are open. While driving (if it wasn't too cold) we would grab some drive through food and take it to a park or just eat it in the car. Other than that, it isn't much different than road tripping pre-COVID.
All National Parks were open for us other than roads closed due to snow/ice. Most state parks are open as well, with the exception of NM, where just about everything was shut down. You can view real time info on their websites or check out Instagram to see if people have been visiting (max225 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:49 pmI do think an M car is nearly perfect at 2-3k miles a year. It still exercises it, but it keeps the miles/:fullretard: maintenance low and enjoyment high. It is :ironic: because they make good DD's but in the end it makes far more sense to DD a 328 and to have fun in an M3, they are vastly different vehicles contrary to the fact that they look the same.D Griff wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 2:26 pm
Yeah I :remember: it. This would be my only car, but I don't really drive much and don't foresee driving a lot of miles any time soon. The Beep Beep is our primary trip vehicle. It would probably see 5K miles/year and a handful of track days. I don't think I'd want to take a BMW M car to the track nearly as much as a 'vette due to consumables cost, but they seem more than up for the task from time to time.
Objectively I think the Corvette is a better vehicle for me (cheaper, more reliable/low maintenance, up to the tasks of track duty and such) and I do still like it, but just a bit bored. The answer is really another Corvette but even a nicer 'vette is still sort of the same thing.
A few other ideas I'm tossing around - S2000, 06-11 Civic Si (probably would do that in addition to the 'vette but don't really want multiple cars), something mid engine (basically Cayman/Boxster/MR2 are kind of it here).
Re: travel - we went to Northern FL in June - it was manic, we were scared to leave the beach/airbnb for the most part, people everywhere, ZFG on masks... the more urban parts are probably fine. That said, we had a good time, ate out at a few places with spaced outdoor seating, enjoyed chillin' on the beach and riding our bikes around and it was a really fun trip.
NV/AZ were both kind of business as usual. I would stay away from cities, it is a bit depressing as 1/2 people are basically homeless now in city centers, but suburban/rural areas are fine. We stayed in numerous hotels in AZ/UT/NV and all were very safe, plenty of food available for take out. Indoor eating was available but we passed on it. Outdoor was great when warm enough, just try to make reservations - NV was at 25% capacity when we visited so it's tougher to just walk in to a place and be guaranteed a table, particularly if you want to be outside.
Traveling itself was a non issue, gas stations and rest areas are open. While driving (if it wasn't too cold) we would grab some drive through food and take it to a park or just eat it in the car. Other than that, it isn't much different than road tripping pre-COVID.
Travel:
Yea I am juggling between Florida and Hawaii. Hawaii has insane Covid requirements. They essentially need a COMPLETED test within 72 hrs of departure, at that point if you do NOT GET AN ANSWER or someone at the lab decided to have a hang over, you're stuck in a hotel for 3-10 days, and you can't even get into an AIR B&B. this creates a lot of anxiety... Also a test is $130-180 per person and we'd need 2, that's money pissed into the wind. I am researching whether my Insurance can cover it, but the main issue here is they may not be as fast as the private companies.
Noted on NV that's great help actually. The case counts are rapidly declining at the moment, and I am shooting for late feb and march time frames at which point 35-40% of the country will be vaccinated + weather will further depress the virus... But yea we're fairly risk averse, and have been cucked' up at home for the last 11 months really. Time to get out and smell the Covid.
Thank you for the info, any info on parks ? Which ones were open/closed etc? We're hoping to get through DV+Grand Canyon, but there may be a few others we want to check out.
That's great! Good for you.razr390 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 2:06 pm Hey everyone.
Just got done touring the San Antonio Food Bank because we are doing fundraising for them, and possible volunteering in the future.
It is anoperation. They feed over 120k people per week within 16 counties. Their facility is a huge Costco-style warehouse. They also have a farm that they grow some produce and also some chickens that lay fresh eggs. Truly awesome to see the great work being done.