Car Talk 5: The Juice is Loose!

[max225]

https://www.vwvortex.com/threads/2018-m ... r.9336503/

Reminder that tunes are obviously the answer and engineers are dumb AF. Amazing that there are multiple people that grenaded their engines and people are still blaming “bad gas” or “oil changes”.

[CaleDeRoo]

https://www.vwvortex.com/threads/2018-m ... r.9336503/

Reminder that tunes are obviously the answer and engineers are dumb AF. Amazing that there are multiple people that grenaded their engines and people are still blaming “bad gas” or “oil changes”.

This is why you don't venture to the model specific forums

[troyguitar]

I still want to get a header and tune on my car. I also want to sell it and not buy anything else until we get out of Rustopia... at which point I want to hunt for a clean version of one of my favorite cars I've ever driven... 2000-03 Celica GT-S.

[max225]

I still want to get a header and tune on my car. I also want to sell it and not buy anything else until we get out of Rustopia... at which point I want to hunt for a clean version of one of my favorite cars I've ever driven... 2000-03 Celica GT-S.

Hmmm wrong wheel drive corolla with irs ? You have a much nicer car now ... don’t get it

[CaleDeRoo]

I still want to get a header and tune on my car. I also want to sell it and not buy anything else until we get out of Rustopia... at which point I want to hunt for a clean version of one of my favorite cars I've ever driven... 2000-03 Celica GT-S.

Hmmm wrong wheel drive corolla with irs ? You have a much nicer car now ... don’t get it

I would be interested in hearing why over a RSX-S too, unless it's just nostalgia fueled then you really can't argue against it.

[max225]

Hmmm wrong wheel drive corolla with irs ? You have a much nicer car now ... don’t get it

I would be interested in hearing why over a RSX-S too, unless it's just nostalgia fueled then you really can't argue against it.

Rsx-s and civic si from 06-10 is also the same flipping car also.

[CaleDeRoo]

I would be interested in hearing why over a RSX-S too, unless it's just nostalgia fueled then you really can't argue against it.

Rsx-s and civic si from 06-10 is also the same flipping car also.

Except the RSX looks better inside and out. IMO

[CaleDeRoo]

Does anyone have a rough cost estimate for the Mopar Added Care Plus extended warranty? My dad's factory warranty is up soon and he's heavily considering one.

[max225]

Does anyone have a rough cost estimate for the Mopar Added Care Plus extended warranty? My dad's factory warranty is up soon and he's heavily considering one.

Which car/duration/coverage level?

They start at around 1k and go to 3/4

[CaleDeRoo]

Does anyone have a rough cost estimate for the Mopar Added Care Plus extended warranty? My dad's factory warranty is up soon and he's heavily considering one.

Which car/duration/coverage level?

They start at around 1k and go to 3/4

For my dad's '18 300. I'm sure he would want at least another 3 years. His has radar cruise and shit so I'm sure he has to get one of the upper packages.

[max225]

Which car/duration/coverage level?

They start at around 1k and go to 3/4

For my dad's '18 300. I'm sure he would want at least another 3 years. His has radar cruise and shit so I'm sure he has to get one of the upper packages.

3 years i would shoot for under 2k. Also just FYI, my dad also has a 300(s) model, no issues and it’s a 2017 model. I am not sure I would say it is a worthwhile spend. These are solid for 6/7 years and 100k (all warranty duration)

[CaleDeRoo]

For my dad's '18 300. I'm sure he would want at least another 3 years. His has radar cruise and shit so I'm sure he has to get one of the upper packages.

3 years i would shoot for under 2k. Also just FYI, my dad also has a 300(s) model, no issues and it’s a 2017 model. I am not sure I would say it is a worthwhile spend. These are solid for 6/7 years and 100k (all warranty duration)

My dad has already had the entire uconnect system and back up cam replaced under warranty because there was water in the back up cam. Probably a one off occurrence but he doesn't want to take a risk.

[D Griff]

Rsx-s and civic si from 06-10 is also the same flipping car also.

Except the RSX looks better inside and out. IMO

Civic has LSD , RSX-S does not

RSX was a cool car though, I don't understand why that form factor no longer exists. If they would just build a liftback Mustang and maybe a liftback Si instead of coupe,

I have a friend with a second owner, stock RSX-S, I need to reach out and request first right of refusal.

[max225]

Except the RSX looks better inside and out. IMO

Civic has LSD , RSX-S does not

RSX was a cool car though, I don't understand why that form factor no longer exists. If they would just build a liftback Mustang and maybe a liftback Si instead of coupe,

I have a friend with a second owner, stock RSX-S, I need to reach out and request first right of refusal.

No one buys coupes

Anyone that wants a sporty sub 35k car will go for a BRZ/SI/WRX/Gti anyone going for sub 25 will go for a Civic SI... also sub 25k and sporty doesn't really happen anymore the price points have moved to inflation. Not sure there is a market for a hatchback FWD vehicle that is sporty, I mean look at the mini, it is failing completely, and honderp killed the 2 door because that vehicle simply doesn't make sense. I think people in that price point value space/size more than performance.

[D Griff]

Civic has LSD , RSX-S does not

RSX was a cool car though, I don't understand why that form factor no longer exists. If they would just build a liftback Mustang and maybe a liftback Si instead of coupe,

I have a friend with a second owner, stock RSX-S, I need to reach out and request first right of refusal.

No one buys coupes

Anyone that wants a sporty sub 35k car will go for a BRZ/SI/WRX/Gti anyone going for sub 25 will go for a Civic SI... also sub 25k and sporty doesn't really happen anymore the price points have moved to inflation. Not sure there is a market for a hatchback FWD vehicle that is sporty, I mean look at the mini, it is failing completely, and honderp killed the 2 door because that vehicle simply doesn't make sense. I think people in that price point value space/size more than performance.

RWD or FWD, the liftback thing would be cool to see back. The 86 and Mustang could both still look great/basically the same as a liftback, and would be way more useful.

You're definitely giving up practicality over something like a GTI, but you can get something that actually looks like a sports car, but is more usable. Think about how much more practical a Corvette is compared to an 86... it has way more room inside and is way easier to load.

[max225]

No one buys coupes

Anyone that wants a sporty sub 35k car will go for a BRZ/SI/WRX/Gti anyone going for sub 25 will go for a Civic SI... also sub 25k and sporty doesn't really happen anymore the price points have moved to inflation. Not sure there is a market for a hatchback FWD vehicle that is sporty, I mean look at the mini, it is failing completely, and honderp killed the 2 door because that vehicle simply doesn't make sense. I think people in that price point value space/size more than performance.

RWD or FWD, the liftback thing would be cool to see back. The 86 and Mustang could both still look great/basically the same as a liftback, and would be way more useful.

You're definitely giving up practicality over something like a GTI, but you can get something that actually looks like a sports car, but is more usable. Think about how much more practical a Corvette is compared to an 86... it has way more room inside and is way easier to load.

I am not sure, I found the 86 to be quite practical... I can't say it is less practical than a vette, but that's the back seat while useless can be a great shelf for additional gear /bags etc. I also highly dislike hatches like in the Vette/370z because shit just flies around in the back and you can "hear" your cargo constantly. But that's personal preference I guess.

[D Griff]

RWD or FWD, the liftback thing would be cool to see back. The 86 and Mustang could both still look great/basically the same as a liftback, and would be way more useful.

You're definitely giving up practicality over something like a GTI, but you can get something that actually looks like a sports car, but is more usable. Think about how much more practical a Corvette is compared to an 86... it has way more room inside and is way easier to load.

I am not sure, I found the 86 to be quite practical... I can't say it is less practical than a vette, but that's the back seat while useless can be a great shelf for additional gear /bags etc. I also highly dislike hatches like in the Vette/370z because shit just flies around in the back and you can "hear" your cargo constantly. But that's personal preference I guess.

I agree that the 86 is pretty practical for what it is, but after camping at track day weekends a few times with my buddy in his FR-S, it pales to the 'vette. I have a large tote with all the shit I need (jack, painters tape, tools, etc) for the track I can just throw in the 'vette. I can also put a cooler in my car, his it really just won't go because the trunk opening is tiny. All of that would be easy in the 86 with a lift back, plus the advantage of the tiny back seat when needed.

Agreed on the stuff in the car , I really preferred the 328i form factor to my

[ChrisoftheNorth]

https://www.vwvortex.com/threads/2018-m ... r.9336503/

Reminder that tunes are obviously the answer and engineers are dumb AF. Amazing that there are multiple people that grenaded their engines and people are still blaming “bad gas” or “oil changes”.

It very likely is bad gas or something like that. OEM engine tunes are super conservative to accommodate for those sorts of things. Tuners remove those safeguards because it means more power at the expense of durability. Anyone that puts a canned tune on a vehicle producing significant power is subjecting themselves to this risk. I'm not sure I'd even go beyond a Stage 1 canned tune, if ever. A custom tune done by a reputable tuner is far better if that's the desire, but you still need to be really careful with where you buy gas and how you drive the car.

[troyguitar]

I finally got a Carvana quote to go through on my car today. 2020 86 w/ ~3500 miles == $24309, including a $2,178 "local market" adjustment for putting in a Charlotte, NC ZIP code... I'll drive to Charlotte and get a rental car to take home for $2k.

That's only about $1500 in profit vs the loan balance. So much for used cars being hugely valuable.

[D Griff]

I finally got a Carvana quote to go through on my car today. 2020 86 w/ ~3500 miles == $24309, including a $2,178 "local market" adjustment for putting in a Charlotte, NC ZIP code... I'll drive to Charlotte and get a rental car to take home for $2k.

That's only about $1500 in profit vs the loan balance. So much for used cars being hugely valuable.

Carvana seems to have cooled down with the offers. My buddy who's FR-S I was thinking about getting recently was planning to sell his to them and buy a Mustang GT through them. His original offer was $10.7K for a 2013 with 95K miles or so, they dropped it to $8K when he was looking to pull the trigger recently, so now he is going to attempt private sale.

[troyguitar]

Vroom says $23000 but picked up in NY, they don't have an option for the vehicle to be located somewhere different from its registration address. It's still probably worth $1k to me to drive to Charlotte and back.

[max225]

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2014- ... ruiser-27/

Wow another one...

[troyguitar]

I finally got a Carvana quote to go through on my car today. 2020 86 w/ ~3500 miles == $24309, including a $2,178 "local market" adjustment for putting in a Charlotte, NC ZIP code... I'll drive to Charlotte and get a rental car to take home for $2k.

That's only about $1500 in profit vs the loan balance. So much for used cars being hugely valuable.

Carvana seems to have cooled down with the offers. My buddy who's FR-S I was thinking about getting recently was planning to sell his to them and buy a Mustang GT through them. His original offer was $10.7K for a 2013 with 95K miles or so, they dropped it to $8K when he was looking to pull the trigger recently, so now he is going to attempt private sale.

I think I'll probably take the shitty offer and accept that I fucked myself as usual. I'd at least save $500 a month going forward. If we ever get the hell out of here I'll think about getting another car.

[D Griff]

Carvana seems to have cooled down with the offers. My buddy who's FR-S I was thinking about getting recently was planning to sell his to them and buy a Mustang GT through them. His original offer was $10.7K for a 2013 with 95K miles or so, they dropped it to $8K when he was looking to pull the trigger recently, so now he is going to attempt private sale.

I think I'll probably take the shitty offer and accept that I fucked myself as usual. I'd at least save $500 a month going forward. If we ever get the hell out of here I'll think about getting another car.

Have you tried Carmax and Vroom? Same friend was offered $10K on his FR-S from Carmax, $2K over his current Carvana offer?

[ChrisoftheNorth]

The high Vroom and Carvana quotes were short lived. They went back to being shitty pretty fast, I watched our JL drop by many $k's each week after the highest offer of $39k back in August. It's down to $33k now, to which I'll pass on.