Dem bicicletas dos, doe.

[troyguitar]

Well summer is just about over. It's been cold, dark, and raining all day here so I reactivated Zwift to test some more shit.

The narrower (i.e. normal road width) cranks seem to have 100% solved the knee pain, so there's that. I can also now do ~200 watts which is supposedly ~20 mph on flat roads for an hour. Cool.

What I cannot do is ride for any length of time without too much weight on my hands with any saddle/handlebar configuration except for tilting the saddle quite nose-up and sitting straight up with my back 100% vertical - Look ma, no hands!

I can ride at ~200 watts semi-comfortably all day if my body is vertical. I can only do it for like 10 fucking minutes if I have to be bent over at all, even on the "tops" with the bars as high as they can go. My weight always ends up fully on my hands no matter what I do. How the fuck do fat out of shape people ride road bikes? I have almost no mass in my upper body, this should be easy for me... or at least fucking humanly possible.

[troyguitar]

The pain and numbness is in my whole upper body. Neck and shoulders all the way down to the fingers. Stretching before and after plus spending 10-20 minutes of the 60 minute ride straight up with no hands on the bars is the only way I could do it remotely comfortably.

[troyguitar]

The pain and numbness is in my whole upper body. Neck and shoulders all the way down to the fingers. Stretching before and after plus spending 10-20 minutes of the 60 minute ride straight up with no hands on the bars is the only way I could do it remotely comfortably.

Ok, let me revise then... nerve issues in your back/neck.

No clue, but I'm running out of shit to try. This is getting ridiculous. Dunno how to even begin to address anything like that.

[troyguitar]

Also holy hell I need way more/better fans if I'm going to keep doing indoor workouts. I was totally drenched after an hour at only a moderate effort, 150 bpm average.

[D Griff]

Ok, let me revise then... nerve issues in your back/neck.

No clue, but I'm running out of shit to try. This is getting ridiculous. Dunno how to even begin to address anything like that.

Free and easy way to start might be doing some core strength exercises... this will lower the weight bearing of everything else which won't fix it, but might help manage it.

[D Griff]

That would be cool, she may have already signed up

Do y'all have the actual Peloton brand bike? It seems like anything that is of decent quality and can hold an iPad should be fine?

We do. The actual bike gets you full integration with the classes - power measurements, heartrate, cadence.

Helpful if you're using it for any kind of training metric.

I'll have to see if she cares about that stuff, I suspect not really. It's an expensive unit... probably well worth it, but I'm a little hesitant on for that if she doesn't end up using it often.

[troyguitar]

No clue, but I'm running out of shit to try. This is getting ridiculous. Dunno how to even begin to address anything like that.

Free and easy way to start might be doing some core strength exercises... this will lower the weight bearing of everything else which won't fix it, but might help manage it.

That is one of the 2 last things left to try. First is going to the pro fitter on Thursday because everyone keeps telling my that I can't possibly be right about what I'm experiencing and the fitter will magically cure everything. Assuming that people are full of shit and that this stuff is simply going to be much harder for me than it is for most people, as usual, then the last step is the core exercises.

Maybe that should have been the first step before even buying a bike, but so many people swear that anyone in almost any shape should be able to comfortably ride a bike that I believed them...

[troyguitar]

Also holy hell I need way more/better fans if I'm going to keep doing indoor workouts. I was totally drenched after an hour at only a moderate effort, 150 bpm average.

Or just get a drip tray, like me. I sweat a ton.

I think I'll need both. Sweating is fine but I'd like to avoid further hurting myself via overheating.

[Calvinball]

Also holy hell I need way more/better fans if I'm going to keep doing indoor workouts. I was totally drenched after an hour at only a moderate effort, 150 bpm average.

Or just get a drip tray, like me. I sweat a ton.

Yes we do, er, I mean, I do too.

[troyguitar]

Sweating isn't a bad thing, just make sure you're replenishing fluids.

For example, the puddle left from my spin class today.

Yeah I had something like that but from a really easy 200 watt hour, much of which was spent fully upright just chilling. It was excessive for how not-hard I was working. Definitely need a better fan.

I drank and sweat probably 4-8x as much as I would on the road. It was getting pretty uncomfortable toward the end.

The other weird thing is that today I switched from the squishy contoured Ergon saddle to the hard flat Fizik just for the hell of it... and I think my ass might have actually hurt less as a result.

[troyguitar]

I've never experienced numbness anywhere but my hands, even with the saddle tilted up toward my chin. Only pressure and pain in the ass. Either way though, this one is definitely not worse and it's lighter so I'll leave it on the bike for now. It's down to maybe 26.x lbs now without water bottles...

[D Griff]

My ass certainly hurts and my peep gets a bit numb at times... but I think it's really because my seat is angled up slightly (nose higher than back). If I could get a damn seat post to get here, I could make it better.

[troyguitar]

I've been tilting mine further and further toward the sky in an attempt to get weight off my hands. Not once have I felt any pressure on the

[Johnny_P]

I've been tilting mine further and further toward the sky in an attempt to get weight off my hands. Not once have I felt any pressure on the

Hey just got an email that La Passione is having a sale. Might be a nice time to get some discounted good cycling clothing. I've heard good things about their bib shorts, so I'd assume their tights and such are good.

https://us.lapassione.cc/

[D Griff]

I've been tilting mine further and further toward the sky in an attempt to get weight off my hands. Not once have I felt any pressure on the

Hey just got an email that La Passione is having a sale. Might be a nice time to get some discounted good cycling clothing. I've heard good things about their bib shorts, so I'd assume their tights and such are good.

https://us.lapassione.cc/

Speaking of which, I rode for the first time with a "real" cycling jersey - Amazon cheapie https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07 ... UTF8&psc=1

I guess it was nice to not have my little backpack thing on, although it was my slowest average speed in a while (I think my legs are just in need of a day of rest). My favorite thing is being able to grab my phone at a red light easily from the pocket instead or dealing with it being in the bag - nice to check time, distance, etc. All in all though, I feel like the running tees are fine as well. Eventually I'll get a little saddle bag for my tools/tube and then this will be even better, having the mini pump, tube, multi tool, etc. all in the pockets was a bit much.

[Johnny_P]

Hey just got an email that La Passione is having a sale. Might be a nice time to get some discounted good cycling clothing. I've heard good things about their bib shorts, so I'd assume their tights and such are good.

https://us.lapassione.cc/

Speaking of which, I rode for the first time with a "real" cycling jersey - Amazon cheapie https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07 ... UTF8&psc=1

I guess it was nice to not have my little backpack thing on, although it was my slowest average speed in a while (I think my legs are just in need of a day of rest). My favorite thing is being able to grab my phone at a red light easily from the pocket instead or dealing with it being in the bag - nice to check time, distance, etc. All in all though, I feel like the running tees are fine as well. Eventually I'll get a little saddle bag for my tools/tube and then this will be even better, having the mini pump, tube, multi tool, etc. all in the pockets was a bit much.

Ride whatever you like
I like cycling jerseys. I find the pockets useful for credit card, snacks, and maybe my sunglasses/gloves if I decide that I don't want them mid ride. If the saddle bag is good for that then send it, basketball jersey or whatever.

[D Griff]

Speaking of which, I rode for the first time with a "real" cycling jersey - Amazon cheapie https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07 ... UTF8&psc=1

I guess it was nice to not have my little backpack thing on, although it was my slowest average speed in a while (I think my legs are just in need of a day of rest). My favorite thing is being able to grab my phone at a red light easily from the pocket instead or dealing with it being in the bag - nice to check time, distance, etc. All in all though, I feel like the running tees are fine as well. Eventually I'll get a little saddle bag for my tools/tube and then this will be even better, having the mini pump, tube, multi tool, etc. all in the pockets was a bit much.

Ride whatever you like
I like cycling jerseys. I find the pockets useful for credit card, snacks, and maybe my sunglasses/gloves if I decide that I don't want them mid ride. If the saddle bag is good for that then send it, basketball jersey or whatever.

The pockets were indeed I forgot I actually dumped my sunglasses in them too, that was handy, I always go back and forth, on/off during rides. They make my eyes more sweaty/sunscreen filled due to blocked airflow but also help with sun, so it's tough to commit to one way or another.

I have one more coming from China, that will probably be it for now on the clothing purchases.

[Johnny_P]

Ride whatever you like
I like cycling jerseys. I find the pockets useful for credit card, snacks, and maybe my sunglasses/gloves if I decide that I don't want them mid ride. If the saddle bag is good for that then send it, basketball jersey or whatever.

The pockets were indeed I forgot I actually dumped my sunglasses in them too, that was handy, I always go back and forth, on/off during rides. They make my eyes more sweaty/sunscreen filled due to blocked airflow but also help with sun, so it's tough to commit to one way or another.

I have one more coming from China, that will probably be it for now on the clothing purchases.

Alt option for sunglasses, turn them upside down and shove the arms in your helmet vent ports.
Works better with straight back arms instead of curved downward. Some helmets aren't good for this.



I do this on the road all the time, no need to stop. To facilitate the flip just bite them. On MTB they don't stay like this too long so its pocket time.

[troyguitar]

I would never ride without eye protection. That's asking for trouble IMO.

I've never tried a "cycling jersey" - I just wear a shirt. Pockets are in my shorts.

Tools/tube are in a saddle bag, air pump is bolted to the frame. So heavy and un-aero.

[D Griff]

I would never ride without eye protection. That's asking for trouble IMO.

I've never tried a "cycling jersey" - I just wear a shirt. Pockets are in my shorts.

Tools/tube are in a saddle bag, air pump is bolted to the frame. So heavy and un-aero.

Do things fall out of your shorts pockets while riding? That is always my concern and why I use the mini backpack (really for a Camelback type thing but the bladder is long gone).

[D Griff]

The pockets were indeed I forgot I actually dumped my sunglasses in them too, that was handy, I always go back and forth, on/off during rides. They make my eyes more sweaty/sunscreen filled due to blocked airflow but also help with sun, so it's tough to commit to one way or another.

I have one more coming from China, that will probably be it for now on the clothing purchases.

Alt option for sunglasses, turn them upside down and shove the arms in your helmet vent ports.
Works better with straight back arms instead of curved downward. Some helmets aren't good for this.



I do this on the road all the time, no need to stop. To facilitate the flip just bite them. On MTB they don't stay like this too long so its pocket time.

I've seen them do that on GCN vids... I should probably get some more appropriate sunglasses, I just roll with some Sunny Rays because they do free lifetime replacement if you break/loose them.

[Johnny_P]

I would never ride without eye protection. That's asking for trouble IMO.

I've never tried a "cycling jersey" - I just wear a shirt. Pockets are in my shorts.

Tools/tube are in a saddle bag, air pump is bolted to the frame. So heavy and un-aero.

Long climb I'll pull them off sometimes to get more airflow. Or on a cycling path occasionally, if i'm in the shade or something.
MTB... really only if I picked the wrong lenses that are too dark for the trail. The gravel bike is tough for this because road segments would warrant a dark lens, but dirt segments would warrant an amber or rose lens... the dark ones tend to be so dark you can't see obstacles.

I use a saddle bag too. Its nice to get the weight off my back. My back only really carries credit card, food, and clothing extras like the glasses or gloves or arm warmers. Gravel bike the mini pump is in a jersey pocket because the only mount I have for it is on the MTB.

[troyguitar]

I would never ride without eye protection. That's asking for trouble IMO.

I've never tried a "cycling jersey" - I just wear a shirt. Pockets are in my shorts.

Tools/tube are in a saddle bag, air pump is bolted to the frame. So heavy and un-aero.

Do things fall out of your shorts pockets while riding? That is always my concern and why I use the mini backpack (really for a Camelback type thing but the bladder is long gone).

I never had anything fall out when using regular gym shorts, but I was always paranoid about it and have since switched to wearing either MTB cargo shorts with zippered pockets or triathlon shorts with tight mesh pockets like these:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07VS ... UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QKV4RGF/ref=emc_b_5_t?th=1

The triathlon shorts feel awesome, nothing moves in the pockets at all.

[D Griff]

Do things fall out of your shorts pockets while riding? That is always my concern and why I use the mini backpack (really for a Camelback type thing but the bladder is long gone).

I never had anything fall out when using regular gym shorts, but I was always paranoid about it and have since switched to wearing either MTB cargo shorts with zippered pockets or triathlon shorts with tight mesh pockets like these:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07VS ... UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QKV4RGF/ref=emc_b_5_t?th=1

The triathlon shorts feel awesome, nothing moves in the pockets at all.

thanks for the links. That would be nice for sure.

I haven't had anything fall out of mesh pockets either, but I think about it constantly when riding like that.

[troyguitar]