Car Talk 5: The Juice is Loose!

[ChrisoftheNorth]

No one except you and me likes the 996.
Add in the IMS bearing issue and I don’t foresee those values jumping up.

It's still too rare/expensive for me but I think the 996 targa might be as close as it gets to the perfect reasonably attainable car.

996 Targa is my "dream attainable" sports car.

[D Griff]

I like the 996 but I feel like dollar for dollar, you can get a better Boxster. I might be as I don't look at Porsches much. I came close with the Cayman search a few years ago but ended up being too to buy a car with such high maintenance risks.

[troyguitar]

I like the 996 but I feel like dollar for dollar, you can get a better Boxster. I might be as I don't look at Porsches much. I came close with the Cayman search a few years ago but ended up being too to buy a car with such high maintenance risks.

Boxster is the best value for sure as long as you don't mind riding in a tent.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

I like the 996 but I feel like dollar for dollar, you can get a better Boxster. I might be as I don't look at Porsches much. I came close with the Cayman search a few years ago but ended up being too to buy a car with such high maintenance risks.

Biggest thing to me is extra storage and livability. 911's are indeed slightly larger inside for the driver, and I find them more comfortable as a result.

But dollar for dollar, a Boxster is probably a better performance value.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

I like the 996 but I feel like dollar for dollar, you can get a better Boxster. I might be as I don't look at Porsches much. I came close with the Cayman search a few years ago but ended up being too to buy a car with such high maintenance risks.

Boxster is the best value for sure as long as you don't mind riding in a tent.

I haven't driven a Boxster in a while, but the last time I did I was surprised by how quiet the tent top was. It's really

[troyguitar]

Boxster is the best value for sure as long as you don't mind riding in a tent.

I haven't driven a Boxster in a while, but the last time I did I was surprised by how quiet the tent top was. It's really

Could be fine. I suspect that I'd take issue with the visibility and lack of hatch more so than the noise, but I've never driven one.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

I haven't driven a Boxster in a while, but the last time I did I was surprised by how quiet the tent top was. It's really

Could be fine. I suspect that I'd take issue with the visibility and lack of hatch more so than the noise, but I've never driven one.

Cramped, for sure. That's what turns me off from them the most.

[troyguitar]

In some ways my MR2 was a better version of a boxster, at least if being used as a 2nd car. That thing was a hoot.

[Desertbreh]

I like the 996 but I feel like dollar for dollar, you can get a better Boxster. I might be as I don't look at Porsches much. I came close with the Cayman search a few years ago but ended up being too to buy a car with such high maintenance risks.

Biggest thing to me is extra storage and livability. 911's are indeed slightly larger inside for the driver, and I find them more comfortable as a result.

But dollar for dollar, a Boxster is probably a better performance value.

Damn.

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sal ... pe=listing

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Biggest thing to me is extra storage and livability. 911's are indeed slightly larger inside for the driver, and I find them more comfortable as a result.

But dollar for dollar, a Boxster is probably a better performance value.

Damn.

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sal ... pe=listing

Gorgeous

[ChrisoftheNorth]

https://www.motorcitymini.com/used/MINI ... f71894.htm

What they shit...they made JCW Countrymans? I had no idea.

[D Griff]

Could be fine. I suspect that I'd take issue with the visibility and lack of hatch more so than the noise, but I've never driven one.

Cramped, for sure. That's what turns me off from them the most.

Yeah, I enjoy tents... but a 911 is definitely more usable. The back seat is a nice shelf for shit. Honestly, Caymans are pretty usable as well, the frunk/hatch are both decent. I think 996 are actually cheaper than any Caymans though, so I'd probably choose that given they both share the IMS Achilles heel.

I guess my thought is that if you can afford say a 2012 Boxster or a 2002 911 for the same money, routinely commuting 2.5 hours each way sounds more relaxed/reasonable in a newer car. All of that said, I am driving my 17 year old GM POS to Connecticut in 1.5 weeks, so fuck it.

[Apex]

https://www.motorcitymini.com/used/MINI ... f71894.htm

What they shit...they made JCW Countrymans? I had no idea.

You could get in any MINI previously. They’ve switch that to auto only on some current models, IIRC.

[troyguitar]

https://www.motorcitymini.com/used/MINI ... f71894.htm

What they shit...they made JCW Countrymans? I had no idea.

Yep you could get AWD+6MT in a few of them for a bit, until they got smart and eliminated that option because no one wants it.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

I'm still liking the idea of a sub-$10k ABARF honestly.

[Desertbreh]

I'm still liking the idea of a sub-$10k ABARF honestly.

Isn't the fundamental problem with that car is that is a piece shit ?

[Apex]

I'm still liking the idea of a sub-$10k ABARF honestly.

Isn't the fundamental problem with that car is that is a piece shit ?

It’s cheap and makes fun noises?

[Desertbreh]

Isn't the fundamental problem with that car is that is a piece shit ?

It’s cheap and makes fun noises?

I guess if you got in and got out.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Isn't the fundamental problem with that car is that is a piece shit ?

It’s cheap and makes fun noises?

And it's really not a POS, they seem to be quite reliable, and while an inferior interior, the ragged out ones I've seen at work still seem to be in pretty decent shape...and those things ARE NOT treated gently.

A GTI is nicer, but not as fun and more expensive.

[D Griff]

I'm still liking the idea of a sub-$10k ABARF honestly.

Nothing with that, they are fun/ . It's just kind of a different discussion looking at an $8K car versus $20K.

I think I would get an NC Miata over an Abarf for a second/fun car though.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

I'm still liking the idea of a sub-$10k ABARF honestly.

Nothing with that, they are fun/ . It's just kind of a different discussion looking at an $8K car versus $20K.

I think I would get an NC Miata over an Abarf for a second/fun car though.

Well $20k max, but cheaper the better, honestly. If this became reality, I'd probably be a bit more focused on $10k and under, unless something really awesome popped up.

[troyguitar]

[ChrisoftheNorth]

I also DO NOT fit in any Miata. Not happening. I'd FR-Z way before I Miata'd.

[D Griff]

[ChrisoftheNorth]

An MK6 R would be just kind of been there done that. And while nice, they're still a bit boring.