Jeeponomics 101: Eternal tirekicking for the gutless Jeep

[Apex]

First change to the Willys.

[SAWCE]

First change to the Willys.

this and a stubby antenna were the first things I did to mine.

[Apex]

First change to the Willys.

this and a stubby antenna were the first things I did to mine.

It’s a much nicer look with the door vs the exposed cap.

[SAWCE]

this and a stubby antenna were the first things I did to mine.

It’s a much nicer look with the door vs the exposed cap.

Absolutely. And for $60 or whatever the door is plus 10 minutes of dicking around to put it on it’s a no brainer.

[dubshow]

That color is perty.

Love it.

[Apex]

That color is perty.

We need a trail run soon.

Also, the 2.0 is average is up to mid 22s mpg-wise on 87 now. that’s mostly running around town, not too much highway.

[max225]

That color is perty.

We need a trail run soon.

Also, the 2.0 is average is up to mid 22s mpg-wise on 87 now. that’s mostly running around town, not too much highway.

What type of town are you in ?

[max225]

We need a trail run soon.

Also, the 2.0 is average is up to mid 22s mpg-wise on 87 now. that’s mostly running around town, not too much highway.

That's

I got 21 empeegeez all highway in the Trailcock averaging 75-80, which was a nice departure from the 15-16 I'd get in the Wrongler doing 75.

That sounds about right. The 300 with same combo gets around 25-8 add brick plus awd and makes perfect sense

[Apex]

We need a trail run soon.

Also, the 2.0 is average is up to mid 22s mpg-wise on 87 now. that’s mostly running around town, not too much highway.

What type of town are you in ?

Hilly, mostly single lane with some double lane county roads. Plenty of traffic and stop lights thrown in there.

[Apex]

We need a trail run soon.

Also, the 2.0 is average is up to mid 22s mpg-wise on 87 now. that’s mostly running around town, not too much highway.

That's

I got 21 empeegeez all highway in the Trailcock averaging 75-80, which was a nice departure from the 15-16 I'd get in the Wrongler doing 75.

[max225]

What type of town are you in ?

Hilly, mostly single lane with some double lane county roads. Plenty of traffic and stop lights thrown in there.

Yea was just curious, my “town” mpg is sub 20 in a mini. I’d be in the 30s for that type of town.

[Apex]

Hilly, mostly single lane with some double lane county roads. Plenty of traffic and stop lights thrown in there.

Yea was just curious, my “town” mpg is sub 20 in a mini. I’d be in the 30s for that type of town.

My R56 was upper 20s most of the time; just a reference point.

[max225]

Yea was just curious, my “town” mpg is sub 20 in a mini. I’d be in the 30s for that type of town.

My R56 was upper 20s most of the time; just a reference point.

Sounds spot on, I am at 27 in mine (last 15 fill ups)

[Apex]

My R56 was upper 20s most of the time; just a reference point.

Sounds spot on, I am at 27 in mine (last 15 fill ups)

[D Griff]

Yea was just curious, my “town” mpg is sub 20 in a mini. I’d be in the 30s for that type of town.

My R56 was upper 20s most of the time; just a reference point.

Wow, the Jeep being only 8 off the MINI is

So I mentioned this on OT but we rented a JK Sahara soft top in the Keys this weekend? I’m trying to decide if it was just the honeymoon making everything great or if I really want one of these things. I’ve always liked Wranglers but driving one all over the keys was one of the most fun driving experiences of my life. The huge, long, shaky shifter, the epic tent with removable everything, the cool off road looks, the goofy short wheelbase. It drove like absolute shit But was just so much fun. They’re so pure, simple, mechanical.

I am seriously considering picking up a manual two door soft top JL or even JK. The mods on the rental were terrible. It was fun to have such an outrageous car but my god are those tires loud and the gearing is atrocious with those huge wheels... stock for me please, maybe some Rubi take off wheels.

[D Griff]

[max225]

My R56 was upper 20s most of the time; just a reference point.

Wow, the Jeep being only 8 off the MINI is

So I mentioned this on OT but we rented a JK Sahara soft top in the Keys this weekend? I’m trying to decide if it was just the honeymoon making everything great or if I really want one of these things. I’ve always liked Wranglers but driving one all over the keys was one of the most fun driving experiences of my life. The huge, long, shaky shifter, the epic tent with removable everything, the cool off road looks, the goofy short wheelbase. It drove like absolute shit But was just so much fun. They’re so pure, simple, mechanical.

I am seriously considering picking up a manual two door soft top JL or even JK. The mods on the rental were terrible. It was fun to have such an outrageous car but my god are those tires loud and the gearing is atrocious with those huge wheels... stock for me please, maybe some Rubi take off wheels.

drive a JL please and report back, here we occasionally see 6500-7500 on the hood for the base models. So it would make it around 25-26k for one with AC and roll up windaze. The JL Is just better than JK in every way, especially when it comes to the transmission.

Full disclosure, I really didn't like the gearing in the rubi I drove. 1st is short and all other gears are sort of tall. So you go 1>2>3>6th which was tall AF on the freeway, this transmission has at least one useless gear... Also perhaps due to it being a rubi that weighs 600lbs more than a comparable 2 door base, it felt really STRAINED. But the 2 door may fix all that.

[CaleDeRoo]

I think the JL is worth it

[max225]

I think the JL is worth it

A clean 2013+ JK is still 20k even in terrorist spec. Which is and
6K for a better trans/interior/everything else seems like a no brainer.

[max225]

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/jeep ... -ces-2020/

Stop the presses

[Swedish Chef]

Wow, the Jeep being only 8 off the MINI is

So I mentioned this on OT but we rented a JK Sahara soft top in the Keys this weekend? I’m trying to decide if it was just the honeymoon making everything great or if I really want one of these things. I’ve always liked Wranglers but driving one all over the keys was one of the most fun driving experiences of my life. The huge, long, shaky shifter, the epic tent with removable everything, the cool off road looks, the goofy short wheelbase. It drove like absolute shit But was just so much fun. They’re so pure, simple, mechanical.

I am seriously considering picking up a manual two door soft top JL or even JK. The mods on the rental were terrible. It was fun to have such an outrageous car but my god are those tires loud and the gearing is atrocious with those huge wheels... stock for me please, maybe some Rubi take off wheels.

drive a JL please and report back, here we occasionally see 6500-7500 on the hood for the base models. So it would make it around 25-26k for one with AC and roll up windaze. The JL Is just better than JK in every way, especially when it comes to the transmission.

Full disclosure, I really didn't like the gearing in the rubi I drove. 1st is short and all other gears are sort of tall. So you go 1>2>3>6th which was tall AF on the freeway, this transmission has at least one useless gear... Also perhaps due to it being a rubi that weighs 600lbs more than a comparable 2 door base, it felt really STRAINED. But the 2 door may fix all that.

This right here.

Had a JKU for a week two summers ago and really liked it despite its flaws.
Had a JLU Sahara for a week the following summer and it’s been improved in every possible way.

They’re still way too much, but the used market is even worse so not sure what would be the best option tbh.

[D Griff]

drive a JL please and report back, here we occasionally see 6500-7500 on the hood for the base models. So it would make it around 25-26k for one with AC and roll up windaze. The JL Is just better than JK in every way, especially when it comes to the transmission.

Full disclosure, I really didn't like the gearing in the rubi I drove. 1st is short and all other gears are sort of tall. So you go 1>2>3>6th which was tall AF on the freeway, this transmission has at least one useless gear... Also perhaps due to it being a rubi that weighs 600lbs more than a comparable 2 door base, it felt really STRAINED. But the 2 door may fix all that.

This right here.

Had a JKU for a week two summers ago and really liked it despite its flaws.
Had a JLU Sahara for a week the following summer and it’s been improved in every possible way.

They’re still way too much, but the used market is even worse so not sure what would be the best option tbh.

It's a weird car to purchase... You could go for a decent TJ for $10K which will be pretty much depreciation proof but $10K+ is a lot for a car that isjust a toy and would kind of suck to DD... unless you're a die hard off road bro. A JK at $15K would be cool but they don't really exist unless they're in shit condition. So it comes down to either pov-spec brand new, nicely equipped JK for more than a pov-spec new one, or full on on a new model... but then you lose on taxes and option depreciation.

I think if I was to bite the bullet a new one in pov-trim would be the way to go... but do I really want to pay $30K for a car with a key and no remote locking capabilities? Maybe? I like it more at $25K but I don't think those exist in the southeast.

[max225]

This right here.

Had a JKU for a week two summers ago and really liked it despite its flaws.
Had a JLU Sahara for a week the following summer and it’s been improved in every possible way.

They’re still way too much, but the used market is even worse so not sure what would be the best option tbh.

It's a weird car to purchase... You could go for a decent TJ for $10K which will be pretty much depreciation proof but $10K+ is a lot for a car that isjust a toy and would kind of suck to DD... unless you're a die hard off road bro. A JK at $15K would be cool but they don't really exist unless they're in shit condition. So it comes down to either pov-spec brand new, nicely equipped JK for more than a pov-spec new one, or full on on a new model... but then you lose on taxes and option depreciation.

I think if I was to bite the bullet a new one in pov-trim would be the way to go... but do I really want to pay $30K for a car with a key and no remote locking capabilities? Maybe? I like it more at $25K but I don't think those exist in the southeast.

You get one here and road trip it back? it'll be 25-26k +tax

[D Griff]

It's a weird car to purchase... You could go for a decent TJ for $10K which will be pretty much depreciation proof but $10K+ is a lot for a car that isjust a toy and would kind of suck to DD... unless you're a die hard off road bro. A JK at $15K would be cool but they don't really exist unless they're in shit condition. So it comes down to either pov-spec brand new, nicely equipped JK for more than a pov-spec new one, or full on on a new model... but then you lose on taxes and option depreciation.

I think if I was to bite the bullet a new one in pov-trim would be the way to go... but do I really want to pay $30K for a car with a key and no remote locking capabilities? Maybe? I like it more at $25K but I don't think those exist in the southeast.

You get one here and road trip it back? it'll be 25-26k +tax

If I get more serious I will likely see if is down for that type of trip, I think it would be a blast.

[max225]

You get one here and road trip it back? it'll be 25-26k +tax

If I get more serious I will likely see if is down for that type of trip, I think it would be a blast.

Yep do it around summer (4th of july saleathon ), then head back. Fun 1 week trip.

We're very lean on jeeps right now, and as expected the 's aren't spectacular ($3500 on hood)
It was $8500 for model year end... on 2019s..