Car Talk 4: The Richard Hertz Rent-A-Car 500

[max225]

Live stream that beeyotch. I would have to say...
if an average person is about a 2/10 on the car "guy" scale....males being closer to 3 and females closer to 1....
Most "car" guys at work are around 5ish
You guys are around 7ish...
Jay leno is a 10...
so... yea... Um... most people are far below this forum... lets hear it.

"Subarus last a really long time"
"I would never drive a minivan... the Honda Pilot is really nice though"

I mentioned that the current line of Mazderp CUVs are and it didn't seem to carry much weight.

on all 3... Subarus are great 0-100k or 0-7/8 years. Which is a "really long time" in everyones mind...
Honda pilot although a minivan doesn't look like one... so win win...
Mazderps are nice... but "WTF IS A MAZDA"

[Johnny_P]

Went for a drive. Don't know why, it was pointless. It's just not enjoyable to drive around here anymore. Really need to get rid of the STI.

mang... you've been talking about this for over a year. What is stopping you?

That I'm depressed and my life isn't what I want it to be.

I just got back from a week in Houston and then a few days in Joshua Tree for my brother's wedding. People were asking me about how my job was going and the honest answer is it's fucking stupid. How's Philly was the next question, and the answer was that it pretty much is blah at this point and I'm ready to move out of the area. Didn't help that Joshua Tree was gorgeous and the drive to/from was through the middle of fucking nowhere with roads that are in much better shape than anything I drive around here.

Also just being flat out overwhelmed with stuff that's available and not caring to own anything in the category I'd want to buy in, if that makes any sense at all. Like, I want a dopey automatic good on gas aintcaremobile that rides nice, handles decently well, 4+ doors, quiet, decent stereo, prefer AWD, etc. And literally nothing is exciting about that. The Hyundai I rented was close I guess.

Go test drive stuff, sure, I have anxiety about that. I hate doing it so much it's inexplicable. Ends up being a colossal waste of time and a bunch of pressure to buy something that I could literally not give two shits about.

I hate being depressed.

[Johnny_P]

"Subarus last a really long time"
"I would never drive a minivan... the Honda Pilot is really nice though"

I mentioned that the current line of Mazderp CUVs are and it didn't seem to carry much weight.

on all 3... Subarus are great 0-100k or 0-7/8 years. Which is a "really long time" in everyones mind...
Honda pilot although a minivan doesn't look like one... so win win...
Mazderps are nice... but "WTF IS A MAZDA"

People basically shop on looks, size, price, and a few key features like AWD or heated seats or car play or whatever.
Mazdas never come up because they're pricier than the others at trim levels with those one or two key things, and nobody cares about driving dynamics anyway.
The Hyundai I rented can be bought for $20,630. A Mazda3 with ACP is $23,620. That's a pretty wide rift and for most people that Hyundai will fit the bill just fine and do it getting much better gas mileage. Or if they do have $23k they can get into a Sonata.

It's the same issue Mazda has had for a long time.

[max225]

mang... you've been talking about this for over a year. What is stopping you?

That I'm depressed and my life isn't what I want it to be.

I just got back from a week in Houston and then a few days in Joshua Tree for my brother's wedding. People were asking me about how my job was going and the honest answer is it's fucking stupid. How's Philly was the next question, and the answer was that it pretty much is blah at this point and I'm ready to move out of the area. Didn't help that Joshua Tree was gorgeous and the drive to/from was through the middle of fucking nowhere with roads that are in much better shape than anything I drive around here.

Also just being flat out overwhelmed with stuff that's available and not caring to own anything in the category I'd want to buy in, if that makes any sense at all. Like, I want a dopey automatic good on gas aintcaremobile that rides nice, handles decently well, 4+ doors, quiet, decent stereo, prefer AWD, etc. And literally nothing is exciting about that. The Hyundai I rented was close I guess.

Go test drive stuff, sure, I have anxiety about that. I hate doing it so much it's inexplicable. Ends up being a colossal waste of time and a bunch of pressure to buy something that I could literally not give two shits about.

I hate being depressed.

I see, well to be fair those roads were nice, but frankly no one fking lives there which is why they are nice. 29 palms is a shithole... its literally terrible... as with any other city around that Park. Sure its beautiful to visit... but living...

That's the story with cali roads, middle of no where A-B roads. Congested roads are always C at best and mostly D status... pot holes to bend wheels/the works.

I honestly don't see the issue with selling the STI if it brings you nothing, and just getting an interim car that is good enough for derping. There are so many good options out there... older JGC, etc that are still interesting enough but don't require any sort of headache if you get fucked.

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/ctd/d/ ... 19151.html
Renegayde should be fine for your needs in the interim.

Something like that will allow you to throw 10k in the bank and still about anything.

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/cto/d/ ... 97154.html
Or an impreza as such.

Then work on yourself, cars can come later.

[MexicanYarisTK]

That I'm depressed and my life isn't what I want it to be.

I just got back from a week in Houston and then a few days in Joshua Tree for my brother's wedding. People were asking me about how my job was going and the honest answer is it's fucking stupid. How's Philly was the next question, and the answer was that it pretty much is blah at this point and I'm ready to move out of the area. Didn't help that Joshua Tree was gorgeous and the drive to/from was through the middle of fucking nowhere with roads that are in much better shape than anything I drive around here.

Also just being flat out overwhelmed with stuff that's available and not caring to own anything in the category I'd want to buy in, if that makes any sense at all. Like, I want a dopey automatic good on gas aintcaremobile that rides nice, handles decently well, 4+ doors, quiet, decent stereo, prefer AWD, etc. And literally nothing is exciting about that. The Hyundai I rented was close I guess.

Go test drive stuff, sure, I have anxiety about that. I hate doing it so much it's inexplicable. Ends up being a colossal waste of time and a bunch of pressure to buy something that I could literally not give two shits about.

I hate being depressed.

I see, well to be fair those roads were nice, but frankly no one fking lives there which is why they are nice. 29 palms is a shithole... its literally terrible... as with any other city around that Park. Sure its beautiful to visit... but living...

That's the story with cali roads, middle of no where A-B roads. Congested roads are always C at best and mostly D status... pot holes to bend wheels/the works.

I honestly don't see the issue with selling the STI if it brings you nothing, and just getting an interim car that is good enough for derping. There are so many good options out there... older JGC, etc that are still interesting enough but don't require any sort of headache if you get fucked.

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/ctd/d/ ... 19151.html
Renegayde should be fine for your needs in the interim.

Something like that will allow you to throw 10k in the bank and still about anything.

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/cto/d/ ... 97154.html
Or an impreza as such.

Then work on yourself, cars can come later.

I see his point. He wants a car that isn't shit to drive and more NFG for a good piece of mind. I certainly will feel more comfortable if I roll around with a Corolla or like the elantra he rented.

[D Griff]

That I'm depressed and my life isn't what I want it to be.

I just got back from a week in Houston and then a few days in Joshua Tree for my brother's wedding. People were asking me about how my job was going and the honest answer is it's fucking stupid. How's Philly was the next question, and the answer was that it pretty much is blah at this point and I'm ready to move out of the area. Didn't help that Joshua Tree was gorgeous and the drive to/from was through the middle of fucking nowhere with roads that are in much better shape than anything I drive around here.

Also just being flat out overwhelmed with stuff that's available and not caring to own anything in the category I'd want to buy in, if that makes any sense at all. Like, I want a dopey automatic good on gas aintcaremobile that rides nice, handles decently well, 4+ doors, quiet, decent stereo, prefer AWD, etc. And literally nothing is exciting about that. The Hyundai I rented was close I guess.

Go test drive stuff, sure, I have anxiety about that. I hate doing it so much it's inexplicable. Ends up being a colossal waste of time and a bunch of pressure to buy something that I could literally not give two shits about.

I hate being depressed.

I see, well to be fair those roads were nice, but frankly no one fking lives there which is why they are nice. 29 palms is a shithole... its literally terrible... as with any other city around that Park. Sure its beautiful to visit... but living...

That's the story with cali roads, middle of no where A-B roads. Congested roads are always C at best and mostly D status... pot holes to bend wheels/the works.

I honestly don't see the issue with selling the STI if it brings you nothing, and just getting an interim car that is good enough for derping. There are so many good options out there... older JGC, etc that are still interesting enough but don't require any sort of headache if you get fucked.

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/ctd/d/ ... 19151.html
Renegayde should be fine for your needs in the interim.

Something like that will allow you to throw 10k in the bank and still about anything.

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/cto/d/ ... 97154.html
Or an impreza as such.

Then work on yourself, cars can come later.

If the STi ain't it for the situation, off it. Get something cheap (used Renegay is ) and just and focus on new opportunity somewhere else in the country.

Living in the city is really from a going out, walking to work, career standpoint, but if you enjoy doing outdoor shit and cars... not so much.

[max225]

I see, well to be fair those roads were nice, but frankly no one fking lives there which is why they are nice. 29 palms is a shithole... its literally terrible... as with any other city around that Park. Sure its beautiful to visit... but living...

That's the story with cali roads, middle of no where A-B roads. Congested roads are always C at best and mostly D status... pot holes to bend wheels/the works.

I honestly don't see the issue with selling the STI if it brings you nothing, and just getting an interim car that is good enough for derping. There are so many good options out there... older JGC, etc that are still interesting enough but don't require any sort of headache if you get fucked.

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/ctd/d/ ... 19151.html
Renegayde should be fine for your needs in the interim.

Something like that will allow you to throw 10k in the bank and still about anything.

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/cto/d/ ... 97154.html
Or an impreza as such.

Then work on yourself, cars can come later.

I see his point. He wants a car that isn't shit to drive and more NFG for a good piece of mind. I certainly will feel more comfortable if I roll around with a Corolla or like the elantra he rented.

They are terrible city options and the equivalent of setting money on fire. A city car should not be over 20k.... that’s just wrong. It’ll get fked up and depreciate into oblivion

[razr390]

The new Toyota corolla’s in the XS/XSE trims look really sharp, both sedan and hatch

[max225]

The new Toyota corolla’s in the XS/XSE trims look really sharp, both sedan and hatch

Willing to pay nearly 30k for a corolla hatch?

[4zilch]

Went for a drive. Don't know why, it was pointless. It's just not enjoyable to drive around here anymore. Really need to get rid of the STI.

mang... you've been talking about this for over a year. What is stopping you?

[ChrisoftheNorth]

I see, well to be fair those roads were nice, but frankly no one fking lives there which is why they are nice. 29 palms is a shithole... its literally terrible... as with any other city around that Park. Sure its beautiful to visit... but living...

That's the story with cali roads, middle of no where A-B roads. Congested roads are always C at best and mostly D status... pot holes to bend wheels/the works.

I honestly don't see the issue with selling the STI if it brings you nothing, and just getting an interim car that is good enough for derping. There are so many good options out there... older JGC, etc that are still interesting enough but don't require any sort of headache if you get fucked.

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/ctd/d/ ... 19151.html
Renegayde should be fine for your needs in the interim.

Something like that will allow you to throw 10k in the bank and still about anything.

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/cto/d/ ... 97154.html
Or an impreza as such.

Then work on yourself, cars can come later.

If the STi ain't it for the situation, off it. Get something cheap (used Renegay is ) and just and focus on new opportunity somewhere else in the country.

Living in the city is really from a going out, walking to work, career standpoint, but if you enjoy doing outdoor shit and cars... not so much.

It's really one or the other IMO.

[Huckleberry]

If the STi ain't it for the situation, off it. Get something cheap (used Renegay is ) and just and focus on new opportunity somewhere else in the country.

Living in the city is really from a going out, walking to work, career standpoint, but if you enjoy doing outdoor shit and cars... not so much.

It's really one or the other IMO.

Yeah, I wouldn't be building cars if I lived in the city.

Plus, I also hate people, so city life ain't for me.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

It's really one or the other IMO.

Yeah, I wouldn't be building cars if I lived in the city.

Plus, I also hate people, so city life ain't for me.

[D Griff]

If the STi ain't it for the situation, off it. Get something cheap (used Renegay is ) and just and focus on new opportunity somewhere else in the country.

Living in the city is really from a going out, walking to work, career standpoint, but if you enjoy doing outdoor shit and cars... not so much.

It's really one or the other IMO.

Some areas seem to offer some suburban areas that are close... our new place will be decent for this, access to the train and a 10 minute ride downtown, can walk to some things, but we'll still have a cool 0.22 acres. It's expensive for a small house with a carport

[ChrisoftheNorth]

It's really one or the other IMO.

Some areas seem to offer some suburban areas that are close... our new place will be decent for this, access to the train and a 10 minute ride downtown, can walk to some things, but we'll still have a cool 0.22 acres. It's expensive for a small house with a carport

Very true. Where we live is similar. We're on nearly a half acre, and you sure do pay for that space.

I'm far from significant nature That's what depresses me the most.

[D Griff]

Some areas seem to offer some suburban areas that are close... our new place will be decent for this, access to the train and a 10 minute ride downtown, can walk to some things, but we'll still have a cool 0.22 acres. It's expensive for a small house with a carport

Very true. Where we live is similar. We're on nearly a half acre, and you sure do pay for that space.

I'm far from significant nature That's what depresses me the most.

Yeah, I do understand. We went to dad's new mountain house in VA this weekend. It is in the middle of nowhere, no cell service, nearest gas station/store is like 15-20 minutes drive, but beautiful place. $130K furnished with 4.5 acres of land. I loved it, she was ... we will probably never go back as it will now always make her think of the dying.

[Huckleberry]

Listening to my coworkers who aren't car guys discuss CUVs next door.

Listening to non-car people discuss vehicles is worse than listening to wannabe car people talk about their vehicles at car shows. At least the latter is entertaining, whereas the former puts me to sleep.

"This beige shitbox has a rear vacuum, but this beige shitbox has one point higher in Consumer Reports...."

[D Griff]

Very true. Where we live is similar. We're on nearly a half acre, and you sure do pay for that space.

I'm far from significant nature That's what depresses me the most.

Yeah, I do understand. We went to dad's new mountain house in VA this weekend. It is in the middle of nowhere, no cell service, nearest gas station/store is like 15-20 minutes drive, but beautiful place. $130K furnished with 4.5 acres of land. I loved it, she was ... we will probably never go back as it will now always make her think of the dying.

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[D Griff]

We have it pretty good in Charlotte with the mountains about 75 minutes away and tons of biking trails locally.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Yeah, I do understand. We went to dad's new mountain house in VA this weekend. It is in the middle of nowhere, no cell service, nearest gas station/store is like 15-20 minutes drive, but beautiful place. $130K furnished with 4.5 acres of land. I loved it, she was ... we will probably never go back as it will now always make her think of the dying.

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This is where I want to live.

[D Griff]

Listening to my coworkers who aren't car guys discuss CUVs next door.

Listening to non-car people discuss vehicles is worse than listening to wannabe car people talk about their vehicles at car shows. At least the latter is entertaining, whereas the former puts me to sleep.

"This beige shitbox has a rear vacuum, but this beige shitbox has one point higher in Consumer Reports...."

I just get because I could legit help them out getting a better vehicle/deal but I will sound like a know-it-all douche bag if I say anything, so I just sit there and

These guys are really nice and one of them seemed to be legit impressed when I discussed tracking the C5, but I just cringe over the CUV discussion.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Listening to non-car people discuss vehicles is worse than listening to wannabe car people talk about their vehicles at car shows. At least the latter is entertaining, whereas the former puts me to sleep.

"This beige shitbox has a rear vacuum, but this beige shitbox has one point higher in Consumer Reports...."

I just get because I could legit help them out getting a better vehicle/deal but I will sound like a know-it-all douche bag if I say anything, so I just sit there and

These guys are really nice and one of them seemed to be legit impressed when I discussed tracking the C5, but I just cringe over the CUV discussion.

I just ignore the s. There's no winning.

[D Griff]

I just get because I could legit help them out getting a better vehicle/deal but I will sound like a know-it-all douche bag if I say anything, so I just sit there and

These guys are really nice and one of them seemed to be legit impressed when I discussed tracking the C5, but I just cringe over the CUV discussion.

I just ignore the s. There's no winning.

My buddy's brother actually bought a CX5 on my recommendation, it was a bit gratifying. He was going to get a CRV and I went all

[coogles]

I just ignore the s. There's no winning.

Although sometimes they still ask, then you have to forget about any enthusiast aspect and suggest something vanilla and reliable...which is how my mom wound up in a CR-V.

[Johnny_P]

I just ignore the s. There's no winning.

My buddy's brother actually bought a CX5 on my recommendation, it was a bit gratifying. He was going to get a CRV and I went all

CRVs don’t suck though