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CorvetteWaxer wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:08 am
Detroit wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:54 am
What's the cost for registration?

We're at $2-300/year for a newer vehicle. Plus 6% sales tax. Highest insurance rates in the country and garbage roads. Michigan blows.
Huntington Beach sales tax is 7.75% as of now.

Registration? My JL just came up in May and it was $660 for the year.
HB is that cheap? I thought it was well over 8%.

$660 for reg is...a lot.
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Detroit wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:19 am
CorvetteWaxer wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:08 am

Huntington Beach sales tax is 7.75% as of now.

Registration? My JL just came up in May and it was $660 for the year.
HB is that cheap? I thought it was well over 8%.

$660 for reg is...a lot.
Expensive vehicle and expensive reg... same here
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max225 wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:21 am

Expensive vehicle and expensive reg... same here
I maintain that I'd not :plac: like I do if I had to pay full sales tax and ridiculous registration amounts every time.
How do you avoid reg fees ?
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D Griff wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:16 am
CaleDeRoo wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:15 am

My goal was to buy a place because I think if I started renting I'd never be able to afford to buy.
You can get cheap houses... extremely area dependent, if you'd like to be "ITB" it's pricey.
My friend lives in Garner and I don't mind that area at all.

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[user not found] wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:21 am Back to :jeep: o-nomics.

Crawled under the :jeep: last night and disconnected the front endlinks and went for a drive, then reconnected and went for a drive.

Definitely seems to feel tighter up front with the endlinks disconnected, so I ordered new endlinks for the front from Quadratec. Should have them by Monday/Tuesday.

Also found that I have either an oil leak or the PS system is leaking at the pump somewhere. Need to take a closer look at that. :plac:
How bad is it ? :plac:
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[user not found] wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:21 am Back to :jeep: o-nomics.

Crawled under the :jeep: last night and disconnected the front endlinks and went for a drive, then reconnected and went for a drive.

Definitely seems to feel tighter up front with the endlinks disconnected, so I ordered new endlinks for the front from Quadratec. Should have them by Monday/Tuesday.

Also found that I have either an oil leak or the PS system is leaking at the pump somewhere. Need to take a closer look at that. :plac:
You should let me know if you decide to :plac: before you do anything.
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max225 wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:24 am
[user not found] wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:23 am

I maintain that I'd not :plac: like I do if I had to pay full sales tax and ridiculous registration amounts every time.
How do you avoid reg fees ?
NJ is cheap for annual reg fees. The JKU is probably like $75? :truk: is about $100.
My MINIs were in the $40-50 range.
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[user not found] wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:23 am I maintain that I'd not :plac: like I do if I had to pay full sales tax and ridiculous registration amounts every time.
How do you avoid reg fees ?
It's like $50/yr in PA for reg + inspection, dunno about NJ.
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Detroit wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:26 am
[user not found] wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:21 am Back to :jeep: o-nomics.

Crawled under the :jeep: last night and disconnected the front endlinks and went for a drive, then reconnected and went for a drive.

Definitely seems to feel tighter up front with the endlinks disconnected, so I ordered new endlinks for the front from Quadratec. Should have them by Monday/Tuesday.

Also found that I have either an oil leak or the PS system is leaking at the pump somewhere. Need to take a closer look at that. :plac:
You should let me know if you decide to :plac: before you do anything.
Dat JKU BackCountry. :megusta:
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Apex wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:27 am
max225 wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:24 am

How do you avoid reg fees ?
NJ is cheap for annual reg fees. The JKU is probably like $75? :truk: is about $100.
My MINIs were in the $40-50 range.
That’s a good :dill:
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Apex wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:27 am
Detroit wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:26 am
You should let me know if you decide to :plac: before you do anything.
Dat JKU BackCountry. :megusta:
I've mentioned before that the JK Backcountry is my ideal spec.
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Detroit wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:19 am
CorvetteWaxer wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:08 am

Huntington Beach sales tax is 7.75% as of now.

Registration? My JL just came up in May and it was $660 for the year.
HB is that cheap? I thought it was well over 8%.

$660 for reg is...a lot.
Yeah, sales tax in California is set at 6% and after adding base city taxes that bumps to 7.25% as a base. Then the local add-ons that are passed by voters stack on that. Most places are between 7.25% and 8%, only the most liberal areas are higher as the subjects of those counties don't know any better than to vote "yes" for any and all "programs" and bonds..... for the childrens and illegals.

SF: 8.5%
San Jose: 9.25%
Compton: 10.25%
San Diego:7.75%
Mountain View: 9%
El Dorado Hills: 7.25%
My county: 8.25%

Registration is a rip here. It's based on MSRP/Original price of the vehicle minus what they consider depreciation. Last year my Z06 was still $800 to register and I don't want to see what they think I owe them on the 911 in January. Probably about $1500-$1800.

That registration money is partly supposed to fix the roads, but the money always gets diverted since the people leading the state can't budget and they run the state with one bank account and everyone makes a mad dash to write checks when there's a positive balance.
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Detroit wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:30 am
Apex wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:27 am

Dat JKU BackCountry. :megusta:
I've mentioned before that the JK Backcountry is my ideal spec.
It's pretty solid. Not much you need to do at all to one, unless of course you want to. :hue:
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CorvetteWaxer wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:33 am
Detroit wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:19 am
HB is that cheap? I thought it was well over 8%.

$660 for reg is...a lot.
Yeah, sales tax in California is set at 6% and after adding base city taxes that bumps to 7.25% as a base. Then the local add-ons that are passed by voters stack on that. Most places are between 7.25% and 8%, only the most liberal areas are higher as the subjects of those counties don't know any better than to vote "yes" for any and all "programs" and bonds..... for the childrens and illegals.

SF: 8.5%
San Jose: 9.25%
Compton: 10.25%
San Diego:7.75%
Mountain View: 9%
El Dorado Hills: 7.25%
My county: 8.25%

Registration is a rip here. It's based on MSRP/Original price of the vehicle minus what they consider depreciation. Last year my Z06 was still $800 to register and I don't want to see what they think I owe them on the 911 in January. Probably about $1500-$1800.
Interesting. When I was in SoCal, I thought I recall pretty much all cities counties being between 8-9%. Ventura was cheap for some reason...7%. When I was poor, I'd buy things at Costco in Ventura and return them to a Costco in LA and pocket the extra 1-2% in sales tax. Why they refunded the sales tax where you were returning and not what you paid was beyond me. Would be enough to buy me a hot dog or slice of pizza at the food court. I've heard they since closed this loophole.
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Apex wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:33 am
Detroit wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:30 am
I've mentioned before that the JK Backcountry is my ideal spec.
It's pretty solid. Not much you need to do at all to one, unless of course you want to. :hue:
I wouldn't do a thing to it. Just plop my winch in that AEV front bumper.

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max225 wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:21 am

Expensive vehicle and expensive reg... same here
I maintain that I'd not :plac: like I do if I had to pay full sales tax and ridiculous registration amounts every time.
But you'd be selling cars to :derp: that are willing to pay $$$$$ over MSRP and would be rolling deep in that commission money. You wouldn't care about the sales tax and registration about 5 months after working here. :D
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Detroit wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:37 am
Apex wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:33 am

It's pretty solid. Not much you need to do at all to one, unless of course you want to. :hue:
I wouldn't do a thing to it. Just plop my winch in that AEV front bumper.

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max225 wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:30 am
Apex wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:27 am

NJ is cheap for annual reg fees. The JKU is probably like $75? :truk: is about $100.
My MINIs were in the $40-50 range.
That’s a good :dill:
Yeah but the property tax on homes is :mindblown: there...

I'd rather high vehicle taxes, it's possible to drive a really cheap vehicle enjoyably more so than live in a cheap-ass house.
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D Griff wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:39 am
max225 wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:30 am
That’s a good :dill:
Yeah but the property tax on homes is :mindblown: there...
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D Griff wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:39 am
max225 wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:30 am
That’s a good :dill:
Yeah but the property tax on homes is :mindblown: there...
true.

Ours is 1.1% of the assessed value (not market value), so it' pretty cheap here. If we paid the percentages that NJ pays, with our house prices.... nobody would ever buy a house here except for the super rich.
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CorvetteWaxer wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:41 am
D Griff wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:39 am

Yeah but the property tax on homes is :mindblown: there...
true.

Ours is 1.1% of the assessed value (not market value), so it' pretty cheap here. If we paid the percentages that NJ pays, with our house prices.... nobody would ever buy a house here except for the super rich.
Anyone who can afford the average 1.5M house is “super rich” so ... it can be as high as 3~5% and no one will give a fk either
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troyguitar wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:27 am
max225 wrote:
How do you avoid reg fees ?
It's like $50/yr in PA for reg + inspection, dunno about NJ.
PA Reg = $37
Inspection = $25-$40
Emissions (in counties where it's required) = $25-$40
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max225 wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:51 am
CorvetteWaxer wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:41 am

true.

Ours is 1.1% of the assessed value (not market value), so it' pretty cheap here. If we paid the percentages that NJ pays, with our house prices.... nobody would ever buy a house here except for the super rich.
Anyone who can afford the average 1.5M house is “super rich” so ... it can be as high as 3~5% and no one will give a fk either
I'd never pay it, just based on the cap for deductions alone.

I would rather pay that $2M on a compound elsewhere and stay in my $650k "starter home" here.
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Detroit wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:37 am
I wouldn't do a thing to it. Just plop my winch in that AEV front bumper.

:megusta:
Already got Rubicon Recon springs and shocks, too, for a 1" lift.
Like I said, let me know if you get any wild ideas of :plac: before doing anything.
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Detroit wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:04 pm
Like I said, let me know if you get any wild ideas of :plac: before doing anything.
:plac: :jeep: :plac:

It's my intent to keep it for a while. Must... not... :plac:

About the only thing I really want to replace it with is a Mojito JL.
You should keep it for a while. :plac: is bad mmmmkay. Just saying, if the itch needs to be scratched in the next few months, hit me up first.

I'll be doing something between now and September. Most likely I'll end up ordering a Bikini JLUR around my birthday at the end of July, but who knows.
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