Jeeponomics 101: Eternal tirekicking for the gutless Jeep

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[user not found] wrote: Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:09 am
Detroit wrote: Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:08 am
Oh, that's right...I forgot about that.

Though, isn't ground clearance more important than AWD in that case? If you're plowing snow, AWD will only help so much.
Both are important. Grade hits 15% in spots.
There's also the issue of shifting weight distribution. Going up hill in a FWD car in slippery situations when your weight shifts aft is no bueno.
:wap: Where are these mangos?
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max225 wrote: Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:14 pm
troyguitar wrote: Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:08 pm Weird, I feel like they're really easy to find... I'm used to looking for :manuel: wagons with sport packages :doe: and am not unwilling to drive more than 30 feet to buy a car like most "enthusiasts" seem to be. Take one damn day and go get the car you actually want, :whocares: if it's 500 miles away? :iono:
:iono: out here, i found 2, :notsure: if V6 but one is a salvage title. And I find it easier to find lambos than those bad boys.
47 V6 AWD options with <100k miles:

https://www.cars.com/for-sale/searchres ... 3&zc=40342
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SaxyJeep wrote: Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:42 pm
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Cheaper in the off season, :doe:
This. I've paid $800 and $1400 on the same flight, off-season and season difference.
:dat:
I've flown to Europe for ~$700-ish in the off season.
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troyguitar wrote: Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:13 pm
max225 wrote: Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:14 pm

:iono: out here, i found 2, :notsure: if V6 but one is a salvage title. And I find it easier to find lambos than those bad boys.
47 V6 AWD options with <100k miles:

https://www.cars.com/for-sale/searchres ... 3&zc=40342
If it works for you :doit:
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troyguitar wrote: Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:13 pm
max225 wrote: Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:14 pm

:iono: out here, i found 2, :notsure: if V6 but one is a salvage title. And I find it easier to find lambos than those bad boys.
47 V6 AWD options with <100k miles:

https://www.cars.com/for-sale/searchres ... 3&zc=40342
Troy that V6 RAV4 is a great option for your new move. Massive utility, enough power that you don't need to kill yourself. Max's position on this is a top ten for preposterousness, even for him.
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max225 wrote: Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:32 pm
Desertbreh wrote: Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:25 pm

How is the I4 any more reliable than the V6? Your failure to acknowledge the V6 RAV4 as the Hammer of Thor is very disappointing.
Where did I make that statement? I said if reliable :derp: ing is the goal... Said goal is far easier accomplished in trying to find a 4 cyl Rav 4 as there is simply way more on the market and it is much easier to find a well cared for one for less money as the 6 tends to be in the loaded leather versions, which have cracked seats etc. Toyota leather ages like shit, same goes for lexus. Every single pre 2005 land cruiser has torn leather. :wtf:
You didn't but it could be inferred by a reasonable reader? Don't go all :mahtroy: on me motherfucker. Troy is trying to make an unpalatable thing to him palatable. This is perfect vehicle to do that.
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Johnny_P wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:21 pm Earn it and burn it, Val.
max225 wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 5:35 pm Yes it's a cool car. But prepare the lube/sawdust.
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Desertbreh wrote: Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:33 pm
max225 wrote: Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:32 pm

Where did I make that statement? I said if reliable :derp: ing is the goal... Said goal is far easier accomplished in trying to find a 4 cyl Rav 4 as there is simply way more on the market and it is much easier to find a well cared for one for less money as the 6 tends to be in the loaded leather versions, which have cracked seats etc. Toyota leather ages like shit, same goes for lexus. Every single pre 2005 land cruiser has torn leather. :wtf:
You didn't but it could be inferred by a reasonable reader? Don't go all :mahtroy: on me motherfucker. Troy is trying to make an unpalatable thing to him palatable. This is perfect vehicle to do that.
If I’m being held to high semantics standards so are you. :lol:
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this thread is lolz.

:nevermind:
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dubshow wrote:this thread is lolz.

:nevermind:
It's a :jeep: thing. :fullretard:
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troyguitar wrote: Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:44 am
dubshow wrote:this thread is lolz.

:nevermind:
It's a :jeep: thing. :fullretard:
APPARENTLY ITS A 15 YEAR OLD JAP SUV BEATER THING
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[user not found] wrote: Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:13 pm Back to the quest for a leakless :jeep:

Booked appt for February 4th to drop :jeep: back off.
:butwhy: doesn’t it just seem like a waste of time at this point ?
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Jeeps just leak breh.
Desertbreh wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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Detroit wrote: Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:40 pm Jeeps just leak breh.
I am :notsure: what these guys could possibly adjust... all the seals are visible etc, if you can’t see the damage to one or whatever it is just gonna leak when it’s replaced anyways. But right... :triggered:
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max225 wrote: Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:42 pm
Detroit wrote: Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:40 pm Jeeps just leak breh.
I am :notsure: what these guys could possibly adjust... all the seals are visible etc, if you can’t see the damage to one or whatever it is just gonna leak when it’s replaced anyways. But right... :triggered:
The final solution....

:plac:
Desertbreh wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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Detroit wrote: Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:40 pm Jeeps just leak breh.
My JL has been pretty good so far, whether because new car or new design
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SaxyJeep wrote: Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:14 pm
Detroit wrote: Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:40 pm Jeeps just leak breh.
My JL has been pretty good so far, whether because new car or new design
Probably. I suspect JLs are improved...but do you have a freedom top and have you taken any of the panels off yet?
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[user not found] wrote: Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:16 pm
Detroit wrote: Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:40 pm Jeeps just leak breh.
The passenger side got worse after the last deluge.

:iono:

I'm not paying to fix it.
:popcorn:

Legit curious to see if they fix it. I chased leaks the entire time I owned my JK, ended up :aintcare: :plac: the thing.

#itsajeepthing
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Detroit wrote: Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:16 pm
SaxyJeep wrote: Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:14 pm

My JL has been pretty good so far, whether because new car or new design
Probably. I suspect JLs are improved...but do you have a freedom top and have you taken any of the panels off yet?
I am using the soft top, so idk if that makes it more or less likely that it will leak... Though when it is raining and i open the door there is a deluge coming off the rain channels, which i understand are new to the JL, running along the door frame
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[user not found] wrote: Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:16 pm
Detroit wrote: Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:40 pm Jeeps just leak breh.
The passenger side got worse after the last deluge.

:iono:

I'm not paying to fix it.
You can argue that's the perk of being the driver, passenger = wet peasants. Huehuehue
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SaxyJeep wrote: Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:20 pm
Detroit wrote: Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:16 pm
Probably. I suspect JLs are improved...but do you have a freedom top and have you taken any of the panels off yet?
I am using the soft top, so idk if that makes it more or less likely that it will leak... Though when it is raining and i open the door there is a deluge coming off the rain channels, which i understand are new to the JL, running along the door frame
Oh wow, your soft top (tent) doesn't leak? :impressive:
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[user not found] wrote: Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:26 pm
Detroit wrote: Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:17 pm
:popcorn:

Legit curious to see if they fix it. I chased leaks the entire time I owned my JK, ended up :aintcare: :plac: the thing.

#itsajeepthing
I might just order the $35 foam tape kit and do it myself to save the time/effort.

Off to the Bezoscopter!
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[user not found] wrote: Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:26 pm
Detroit wrote: Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:17 pm
:popcorn:

Legit curious to see if they fix it. I chased leaks the entire time I owned my JK, ended up :aintcare: :plac: the thing.

#itsajeepthing
I might just order the $35 foam tape kit and do it myself to save the time/effort.

Off to the Bezoscopter!
:dat: is the appropriate action, you gave it a shot already at the :dillerman: where they fixed nothing, other than the leaking axle seal.
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Detroit wrote: Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:23 pm
SaxyJeep wrote: Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:20 pm

I am using the soft top, so idk if that makes it more or less likely that it will leak... Though when it is raining and i open the door there is a deluge coming off the rain channels, which i understand are new to the JL, running along the door frame
Oh wow, your soft top (tent) doesn't leak? :impressive:
Nope, I have the regular soft top as well, didn't opt for the premium. I havent driven around that much tbh, only at about 1.2k miles right now, but I've had some pretty heavy rain (could barely talk inside the car, lol), and also drove around during the snow storm that hit DC a couple of weeks ago, and no leakage.

(I am also OK with roadnoise from the soft top, since my first car was a 2004 sebring soft top convertible, which was honestly worse)
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SaxyJeep wrote: Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:28 pm
Detroit wrote: Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:23 pm
Oh wow, your soft top (tent) doesn't leak? :impressive:
Nope, I have the regular soft top as well, didn't opt for the premium. I havent driven around that much tbh, only at about 1.2k miles right now, but I've had some pretty heavy rain (could barely talk inside the car, lol), and also drove around during the snow storm that hit DC a couple of weeks ago, and no leakage.

(I am also OK with roadnoise from the soft top, since my first car was a 2004 sebring soft top convertible, which was honestly worse)
I've heard the improvement in wind noise on the JL is fantastic.
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Detroit wrote: Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:31 pm
SaxyJeep wrote: Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:28 pm

Nope, I have the regular soft top as well, didn't opt for the premium. I havent driven around that much tbh, only at about 1.2k miles right now, but I've had some pretty heavy rain (could barely talk inside the car, lol), and also drove around during the snow storm that hit DC a couple of weeks ago, and no leakage.

(I am also OK with roadnoise from the soft top, since my first car was a 2004 sebring soft top convertible, which was honestly worse)
I've heard the improvement in wind noise on the JL is fantastic.
It's really not bad. Even on the highway it only really becomes significantly noticeable 60+mph, and regular driving barely.
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