OT 11: Troyway to Heaven

[SAWCE]

Hi I came for the gangbang?


Sent from the Beer Depository

Lube up over there. But, make sure to hold the door for other orgy members.

No, you've got it wrong. The more time you spend in a gaping door hole is less time spent in a gaping human hole.

[troyguitar]

The seat is already not sold whether or not you get an upgrade. Your accounting is deceptive/wrong... Doubly so since you are ignoring the value of the door-holder's time. Compare the cost of upgrading you vs the other available actions, not vs the ideal case of selling the seat at full price - that didn't happen and is thus not a real source of profit. Then compare that cost (minus the expected return from increased future sales to the upgraded customer) as a percentage of the airline's income/assets to the cost of the door holding time as a percentage of the door holder's income/assets. You might be surprised.

how many times have you actually flown

40?

The number will go up dramatically over time as we get more money... unless autonomous cars change the game like Max thinks will happen.

How does that change the relative costs of things for billionaires vs thousandaires?

[Johnny_P]

Hi I came for the gangbang?


Sent from the Beer Depository

Lube up over there. But, make sure to hold the door for other orgy members.

POTD #4

I'm fucking dying over here guys

[Johnny_P]

We are collectively debating the intrinsic value of holding the door open for you to join our gangbang.

This is an easy one. My cost away from the gangbang is way higher than the benefit of him joining.

[razr390]

We are collectively debating the intrinsic value of holding the door open for you to join our gangbang.

This is an easy one. My cost away from the gangbang is way higher than the benefit of him joining.

Look at that! Since you're part of our prestigious Frequent Gangbanger Program, the miles you've gotten for this recent gangbang got you a free upgrade into First Class! First class offers unlimited gangbangs with more space, free butt plugs, and a collectible toiletry set of Eau de cologne alongside some shampoo and conditioner.

[troyguitar]

That's the earliest I'd ever be able to fix it... and even then I'd have people with 10x my resources actively fighting against me.

No single person can fix it. Period. We can all fix it together.


Edit - and you don't have to be massively wealthy to do so.

What can I do to keep people from hoarding 100 billion dollars - without hurting myself in the process?

[goIftdibrad]

how many times have you actually flown

40?

The number will go up dramatically over time as we get more money... unless autonomous cars change the game like Max thinks will happen.

How does that change the relative costs of things for billionaires vs thousandaires?

just curious how well you know the system.

I mean they LITERLY try to sell 1st / biz class up to the last minute. It gets cheaper closer to boarding. Only then do the people with high points balances get

[Melon]

No single person can fix it. Period. We can all fix it together.


Edit - and you don't have to be massively wealthy to do so.

What can I do to keep people from hoarding 100 billion dollars - without hurting myself in the process?

Make something they want to buy.
#capitalism

[razr390]

how many times have you actually flown

40?

The number will go up dramatically over time as we get more money... unless autonomous cars change the game like Max thinks will happen.

How does that change the relative costs of things for billionaires vs thousandaires?

People will spend in proportion to their income. A person making $30k/year will drive a poverty Toyota while a person making $300k/year will drive a Bentley or the like. Everyone spends proportionate to their income and most people still live dollhair to dollhair (the rich people just get nicer things).

[razr390]

No single person can fix it. Period. We can all fix it together.


Edit - and you don't have to be massively wealthy to do so.

What can I do to keep people from hoarding 100 billion dollars - without hurting myself in the process?

What can I do to keep from hoarding $2,000/month in savings without hurting myself in the process? The fact that you can put aside $2,000/month is to people poorer than you.

[troyguitar]

What can I do to keep people from hoarding 100 billion dollars - without hurting myself in the process?

You don't have to keep them from hoarding it, you just have to open the door for people to live a better life than they have been.

It's not about taking down the haves, it's about helping up the have nots.

That approach will never narrow the gap. The rich get richer faster than you can lift up the poor. The only way to narrow the gap is to bring down the top.

[Melon]

You don't have to keep them from hoarding it, you just have to open the door for people to live a better life than they have been.

It's not about taking down the haves, it's about helping up the have nots.

That approach will never narrow the gap. The rich get richer faster than you can lift up the poor. The only way to narrow the gap is to bring down the top.

Well, you're on top of me, so...

...on those knees!

[razr390]

That approach will never narrow the gap. The rich get richer faster than you can lift up the poor. The only way to narrow the gap is to bring down the top.

Well, you're on top of me, so...

...on those knees!

dat paradox of

[Barnes93cb]

401k?


I have a dollar.

You have a pension backed by the U.S. Government. Dunno if that's good or bad.

Yes if I can maintain my health and mental sanity in this career I will have a retirement and lifetime healthcare in 14 years at the young age of 38. I will also have numerous physical issues and access to some of the worst medical care that the US can offer.

[Melon]

access to some of the worst medical care that the US can offer.

and very much

[troyguitar]

That approach will never narrow the gap. The rich get richer faster than you can lift up the poor. The only way to narrow the gap is to bring down the top.

Well, you're on top of me, so...

...on those knees!

...and THAT mentality is what keeps the top folks at the top. They've got us fighting each other over crumbs and bathrooms and chasing little red dots on the floor while they're with power on their jets and hanging on yachts at Monaco.

[wap]

What if the airline upgrades me to the position of the person who holds the door open for all the other passengers?

Well, then you're fucked because by the time you board there is no overhead bin space and you have to gate check your bag. But then, because the crew assumes you are boarding group 5 loser they neglect to put your bag on the plane. It is found on the tarmac 5 hours later, mistaken for a suspicious and possibly dangerous bag, and destroyed in a controlled explosive area. So, you end up in a middle seat at the back of the plane and your bag never shows up, which means you make that presentation, the whole reason you are on the stupid trip, in jeans and a terrible smelling polo shirt. While the presentation goes well, your stench of wearing those same clothes for 3 days is unbearable and you are fired. Your company won't even cover your return flight because they do not want to be associated with someone that clearly cannot adult. You are now jobless and homeless in an unfamiliar city that does not have Uber or Lyft so your phone is useless even before it's battery dies.

Then you decide, well, fuck it, meth seems like a good idea, and no one ever hears from you again.

[troyguitar]

That approach will never narrow the gap. The rich get richer faster than you can lift up the poor. The only way to narrow the gap is to bring down the top.

But you're never going to have 9.7 billion dollars and I can point to successes I've had in helping people. Who is doing more?

Our effective contributions are both exactly zero.

[Melon]

Well, you're on top of me, so...

...on those knees!

...and THAT mentality is what keeps the top folks at the top. They've got us fighting each other over crumbs and bathrooms and chasing little red dots on the floor while they're with power on their jets and hanging on yachts at Monaco.

Real talk.

I honestly don't feel like I'm fighting anyone. Sure, I want to advance in my career, but in that regard I'm just fighting myself, no one else.
Sure, there's super rich mother fuckers who live a lifestyle I'll never imagine, who were handed their money fortified by a dynasty of yesteryear.
Doesn't bother me any, I've come up, made it through a lot of adversity, and have really made something of myself, and even though I'm young in my career, I'll do very well. I'm confident in myself and my abilities. I have a nice house, nice truk, decent nest egg (thanks mama melon) I'm ok.

I'm also very much at peace, can't beat that.

[troyguitar]

...and THAT mentality is what keeps the top folks at the top. They've got us fighting each other over crumbs and bathrooms and chasing little red dots on the floor while they're with power on their jets and hanging on yachts at Monaco.

And focusing on them gets us NOWHERE. Helping each other gets us somewhere a little bit at a time.

Not even close to true. The best we can do with your approach is to gain 10 feet in the time that they gain a mile. You might feel good about that in the short run but it's not actually productive.

[troyguitar]

Not even close to true. The best we can do with your approach is to gain 10 feet in the time that they gain a mile. You might feel good about that in the short run but it's not actually productive.

I'm not going for institutional change. If ONE of these kids I help get a job or get into college or my wife provides free mental health services for goes to live a happy productive life, I've won the jackpot.

Considering you already won the genetic and financial jackpots and believe that worshipping the dollar is the best way to structure society, it makes sense for you to not care about anything but making yourself feel good anymore. You're set for life, most of us still have shit to do.

Practical question: Considering the fact that no one listens to me regardless of the validity of my words, why do you think I could ever make a positive impact on anyone in any way?

[Desertbreh]

You have a pension backed by the U.S. Government. Dunno if that's good or bad.

Yes if I can maintain my health and mental sanity in this career I will have a retirement and lifetime healthcare in 14 years at the young age of 38. I will also have numerous physical issues and access to some of the worst medical care that the US can offer.

Oddly enough, my father received really excellent care at the VA in Wichita, KS before and during his passing a couple of months ago. Lotta bad press about the VA, but there are execeptions.

[Johnny_P]

Not even close to true. The best we can do with your approach is to gain 10 feet in the time that they gain a mile. You might feel good about that in the short run but it's not actually productive.

I'm not going for institutional change. If ONE of these kids I help get a job or get into college or my wife provides free mental health services for goes to live a happy productive life, I've won the jackpot.

Lisa changed 4 people's lives last year with her shop. That's it. 4. It was 100% worth it to her, and she was able to basically double the grand money coming in, which will help expand her organization, and help more people. The organization will continue to grow and help more people and bring real, meaningful change to people's lives and help bring them out of poverty and hard times.

4 today, 50 in 10 years, 200 in 15 years, etc. But if you just look at the 4 and say shit's not worth it then you aren't going to change shit and that's guaranteed.

If Troy is actually passionate about this problem, which it seems he is, I think he'd get immense satisfaction out of helping underprivileged people understand how to live better lives.

[Barnes93cb]

access to some of the worst medical care that the US can offer.

and very much

Ill survive... So long as I dont get a terminal illness.

[Johnny_P]

I'm not going for institutional change. If ONE of these kids I help get a job or get into college or my wife provides free mental health services for goes to live a happy productive life, I've won the jackpot.

Considering you already won the genetic and financial jackpots and believe that worshipping the dollar is the best way to structure society, it makes sense for you to not care about anything but making yourself feel good anymore. You're set for life, most of us still have shit to do.

Practical question: Considering the fact that no one listens to me regardless of the validity of my words, why do you think I could ever make a positive impact on anyone in any way?

Knowledge!

Look at all the people we call idiots who take out super long loans on cars they can't afford just to have those cars repo'd and massive amounts of debt thrown on them? What if you armed someone with knowledge about how to budget and what a loan APR means and how to manage cash flow? Then they don't sign for that 96 month 10% interest loan on the new Ram and instead go buy a used good condition Toyota? And don't fall into crippling debt?

You can change someone's life with your knowledge dude.