Car Talk 1: Passengers matter

[Johnny_P]

I have no idea how to check this.

Sticker in driver's door has assembly month and year.

Will look

OMG guise I'm finally excited to go to my car after work. It's been so long!

[ChrisoftheNorth]

The only things I miss from mine are the steering wheel and the plaid seats.

I miss my GTI. I would definitely Mk7R in the future if we need to quit being a 3 car family. Or Mk8R, whatever.

And give up the brub?

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Sticker in driver's door has assembly month and year.

Will look

OMG guise I'm finally excited to go to my car after work. It's been so long!

It's the little things.

[Desertbreh]

I miss my GTI. I would definitely Mk7R in the future if we need to quit being a 3 car family. Or Mk8R, whatever.

And give up the brub?

IRL it's not gonna happen but if I had no Tahoe I would likely find something a bit more flexible than the brub to be desirable. Although damn if that thing can't haul the groceries.

[troyguitar]

There are a few things I could see me missing from my GTI down the line.
1) Steering wheel
2) Plaid seats
3) The exterior looks
4) The headlights (xenon)

I guess that's it.

The only things I miss from mine are the steering wheel and the plaid seats.

I don't miss the at all but that's largely because the S4 was a better version of it in every way. I do miss the heated recarbros, slick shifter, and short geared fun little V8. Don't miss working on it or getting 19 mpg highway. That thing did handle better than a 140k mile 4200 lb krautwagon on original suspension had any right to handle

[ChrisoftheNorth]

And give up the brub?

IRL it's not gonna happen but if I had no Tahoe I would likely find something a bit more flexible than the brub to be desirable. Although damn if that thing can't haul the groceries.

Brub tubs are surprisingly accommodating.

[wap]

Ah, the PCV fail. That's sad.

But I do think you're being dramatic about the RMS. It's leaking, but if it asploded, the car would be done.

Johnny's VW was assembled during Octoberfest. WAP and Balius had their GTI's assembled during a performance review.

So far I'd agree with you. Only approaching 48k miles but 6 years old next month.

Mine was assembled August/2010.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Johnny's VW was assembled during Octoberfest. WAP and Balius had their GTI's assembled during a performance review.

So far I'd agree with you. Only approaching 48k miles but 6 years old next month.

Mine was assembled August/2010.

Woa, almost Octoberfest.

[Johnny_P]

10/09. September!!! It's an Oktoberfest fuck up!!

[troyguitar]

10/09. September!!! It's an Oktoberfest fuck up!!

gasm:

[ChrisoftheNorth]

10/09. September!!! It's an Oktoberfest fuck up!!

That's it!!!

Not only is it an Octoberfest car, it's also a super early US spec MK6. So they were drunk AND what they were doing.

[Melon]

...unless it's a V8 S4 ol:

I still miss that thing even though it was ridiculously expensive to run and not very good at anything.

There are a few things I could see me missing from my GTI down the line.
1) Steering wheel
2) Plaid seats
3) The exterior looks
4) The headlights (xenon)

I guess that's it.

I do miss that steering wheel, it's 5/7
Those headlights too are fucking awesome. The retrofit ones I got for the C5 are equally good, but they're lower to the ground, so there is a disadvantage right off the bat.

[MexicanYarisTK]

10/09. September!!! It's an Oktoberfest fuck up!!

That's it!!!

Not only is it an Octoberfest car, it's also a super early US spec MK6. So they were drunk AND what they were doing.

My mk7 is also a super early US car, built July 2014. So far I already got HPFP replaced, cranks longer at times and shifter trim peeling.

[max225]

Very different experience from a Mk6. Think 30% extra power, and 30% extra refinement, while in the same exact package.
One thing I didn't like is that I couldn't really tell the car had an LSD, it still spun the wheels a fair amount, although perhaps both were spinning.
Also the handling is comparable to my TDI, I can't say I was blown away, maybe a slight bit better.

The mk6 GTI felt pretty much the same as my TDI when it came in daily driving, the MK7 has more low end than my fucking diesel. It is nuts, and it pulls hard until 7k rpm.

It is a VERY VERY VERY good all arounder.

LSD doesn't can't help much with straight line acceleration if the tires are lame, was it on stock failseasons?

Yas

[MexicanYarisTK]

I want to go drive a MK7 GTI. Still haven't.

Very different experience from a Mk6. Think 30% extra power, and 30% extra refinement, while in the same exact package.
One thing I didn't like is that I couldn't really tell the car had an LSD, it still spun the wheels a fair amount, although perhaps both were spinning.
Also the handling is comparable to my TDI, I can't say I was blown away, maybe a slight bit better.

The mk6 GTI felt pretty much the same as my TDI when it came in daily driving, the MK7 has more low end than my fucking diesel. It is nuts, and it pulls hard until 7k rpm.

It is a VERY VERY VERY good all arounder.

If only the DSG gear ratios would be better or perhaps the programming, even if I did a uni stage 1 TCU tune on it, on D it is still annoying. In Sport mode, it makes things better, except it brings up to 4k rpm on normal around town driving. It kinda feels like driving an electric car with some NA linear feel to it, if it sounds right; but throttle response is not that good though.

[max225]

10/09. September!!! It's an Oktoberfest fuck up!!

[max225]

The only things I miss from mine are the steering wheel and the plaid seats.

I miss my GTI. I would definitely Mk7R in the future if we need to quit being a 3 car family. Or Mk8R, whatever.

The 10k cost or 2 tahoe's worth price jump is very tough to justiFLY...

[Desertbreh]

I miss my GTI. I would definitely Mk7R in the future if we need to quit being a 3 car family. Or Mk8R, whatever.

The 10k cost or 2 tahoe's worth price jump is very tough to justiFLY...

I'm in a zero plac zone. I got what I wanted a year ago, she's getting what she wants in January (maybe), Brahhoe is fully depreciated, fully fuctional (although I get dinged for things to keep it non-Mexi, like new folding mirror and this weekend a new passenger map light switch for $80). I'll have my fun getting the BMW up to speed with tintz and so forth.

For a 1 car solution, I think the Mk7R is unbeatable, but I respect that you have had a lot of egg for a long time.

[max225]

Nothing better than a MK7 R... for a 1 car solution for sure... however a GTI delivers 99% of the fun for 50% of the price (used)

[Desertbreh]

Nothing better than a MK7 R... for a 1 car solution for sure... however a GTI delivers 99% of the fun for 50% of the price (used)

That's doubly true for me but the R gives Nor Cal guys the ability to load up the skis and head to TahBro. Plus the power, plus the rarity. It's a cool car.

[max225]

Nothing better than a MK7 R... for a 1 car solution for sure... however a GTI delivers 99% of the fun for 50% of the price (used)

That's doubly true for me but the R gives Nor Cal guys the ability to load up the skis and head to TahBro. Plus the power, plus the rarity. It's a cool car.

The price differential is just so hard to swallow and it doesn't look any different from any other Golf...

[Desertbreh]

That's doubly true for me but the R gives Nor Cal guys the ability to load up the skis and head to TahBro. Plus the power, plus the rarity. It's a cool car.

The price differential is just so hard to swallow and it doesn't look any different from any other Golf...

Yeah that doesn't matter to me. Enthusiasts definitely know...just like they know ZR1>Z06>GS>base brub when all 95% of people see is a brubtub. The hatch makes it far more functional and valuable to me than an S3 and it would be the car I would get if I de-brubed, no question. Far funner to drive than a lot of shit that costs way more (new cars anyway) and just a Swiss Army Knife.

[max225]

The price differential is just so hard to swallow and it doesn't look any different from any other Golf...

Yeah that doesn't matter to me. Enthusiasts definitely know...just like they know ZR1>Z06>GS>base brub when all 95% of people see is a brubtub. The hatch makes it far more functional and valuable to me than an S3 and it would be the car I would get if I de-brubed, no question. Far funner to drive than a lot of shit that costs way more (new cars anyway) and just a Swiss Army Knife.

I suppose, however it is hard to justify though... other than AWD there is no real performance/bodywork difference between the car.

The Z06/GS adds giant brakes /bodykit bigger tires etc... for an extra 10%
GTI/R are basically the same and the price differencial is FAR larger at 30%

[Desertbreh]

Yeah that doesn't matter to me. Enthusiasts definitely know...just like they know ZR1>Z06>GS>base brub when all 95% of people see is a brubtub. The hatch makes it far more functional and valuable to me than an S3 and it would be the car I would get if I de-brubed, no question. Far funner to drive than a lot of shit that costs way more (new cars anyway) and just a Swiss Army Knife.

I suppose, however it is hard to justify though... other than AWD there is no real performance/bodywork difference between the car.

The Z06/GS adds giant brakes /bodykit bigger tires etc... for an extra 10%
GTI/R are basically the same and the price differencial is FAR larger at 30%

I don't quite understand this. How is 80 (advertised) hp not a real performance difference? And it's not just a GTI with a tune. The factory has mods to the engine that support that power bump. What other car will take you 0-60 in 4.5 seconds for less than $40K? I don't know whether R brakes are better than power pack.

[troyguitar]

I suppose, however it is hard to justify though... other than AWD there is no real performance/bodywork difference between the car.

The Z06/GS adds giant brakes /bodykit bigger tires etc... for an extra 10%
GTI/R are basically the same and the price differencial is FAR larger at 30%

I don't quite understand this. How is 80 (advertised) hp not a real performance difference? And it's not just a GTI with a tune. The factory has mods to the engine that support that power bump. What other car will take you 0-60 in 4.5 seconds for less than $40K? I don't know whether R brakes are better than power pack.

The extra weight and drivetrain loss means that the GTI isn't much slower outside of the AWD launch advantage.