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Took 2 short test rides today. The narrow stuff is definitely way better and I definitely want my shorter gearing back. Hopefully 30/34 instead of 30/32 will be good enough once someone gets the cassette in stock again.

How should I bed the brakes? The 2 piston spyres feel much smoother and more solid than my sliders but they don't have much bite yet. I have to pull the levers really hard for the same deceleration. The stock pads might just suck but I suspect that they need to be bedded properly first.

One of the neighbors got his new Checkpoint SL6 last night and I went out with them for a quick 2nd ride before it got too dark. I can keep up fine now so there's no huge need to upgrade anything else beyond comfort.
Will take a few rides for them to bite. Usually first ride on new pads blows.
:dat: when I got my Whorbea I was super disappointed in the braking as that was the main reason I upgraded from my old Trek and it was shit.

I had a guy at the trail who looked experienced Ride it, he said just give it a little time and it’ll be good, feels normal, etc. The brakes on it really are great, just takes a bit of mileage.

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Took 2 short test rides today. The narrow stuff is definitely way better and I definitely want my shorter gearing back. Hopefully 30/34 instead of 30/32 will be good enough once someone gets the cassette in stock again.

How should I bed the brakes? The 2 piston spyres feel much smoother and more solid than my sliders but they don't have much bite yet. I have to pull the levers really hard for the same deceleration. The stock pads might just suck but I suspect that they need to be bedded properly first.

One of the neighbors got his new Checkpoint SL6 last night and I went out with them for a quick 2nd ride before it got too dark. I can keep up fine now so there's no huge need to upgrade anything else beyond comfort.
Bed in process is similar to cars.

Get up to about 10-15 mph. Firm application front and rear until you are almost stopped. I’ll usually do a set of 10, then give it a few minutes without clamping the brakes all the way down when stopped. Repeat 3-4 times.

Gets a good base layer down.

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Hoth :doe:

Lows go down to about 50 already in the 10-day forecast.
I’d buy some good cold weather gear before I dicked around with new cranksets again.
:word:

I'm slowly getting to the point where I can just ride the thing. It'll be nice to have some time and energy to dedicate to other things again. For now IDGAF that it's heavy.

Getting lighter/better stuff can be an upgrade later when I hit a plateau and don't need the super low gears anymore. 300+ watt FTP minimum for that around here :doe: so it'll be awhile.

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I’d buy some good cold weather gear before I dicked around with new cranksets again.
:word:

I'm slowly getting to the point where I can just ride the thing. It'll be nice to have some time and energy to dedicate to other things again. For now IDGAF that it's heavy.

Getting lighter/better stuff can be an upgrade later when I hit a plateau and don't need the super low gears anymore. 300+ watt FTP minimum for that around here :doe: so it'll be awhile.
Honestly it may be more cost effective to get a better bike after some time instead of throwing $1000 of parts at this. Now that you know what you want and how you want to fit on it. You are heading to a more classic roadie fit than I thought you would.

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:word:

I'm slowly getting to the point where I can just ride the thing. It'll be nice to have some time and energy to dedicate to other things again. For now IDGAF that it's heavy.

Getting lighter/better stuff can be an upgrade later when I hit a plateau and don't need the super low gears anymore. 300+ watt FTP minimum for that around here :doe: so it'll be awhile.
Honestly it may be more cost effective to get a better bike after some time instead of throwing $1000 of parts at this. Now that you know what you want and how you want to fit on it. You are heading to a more classic roadie fit than I thought you would.
Any kind of upgrade does indeed end up costing at least $1000 no matter how it's done, which is why it is not happening for some time.

The "cheap" option is tiagra group on Chinese carbon frame with FSA cranks and whatever random "cheap" wheels. Still costs $1500ish total, could maybe sell my current shit for $300 or so.

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Honestly it may be more cost effective to get a better bike after some time instead of throwing $1000 of parts at this. Now that you know what you want and how you want to fit on it. You are heading to a more classic roadie fit than I thought you would.
Any kind of upgrade does indeed end up costing at least $1000 no matter how it's done, which is why it is not happening for some time.

The "cheap" option is tiagra group on Chinese carbon frame with FSA cranks and whatever random "cheap" wheels. Still costs $1500ish total, could maybe sell my current shit for $300 or so.
https://www.giant-bicycles.com/us/defy-advanced-2
Something like that maybe. Roadie geometry, no focus on off road means it'll probably ride even smoother on road. Can still take 35mm tires. 105, hydro disc, and carbon frameset. Pretty nice bike. Others include Cannondale Synapse and Specialized Roubaix. Just something to consider. Right now lots of supply issues due to covid. Might make sense to ride the current bike over the winter, then plan on shopping around in the spring when supply is figured out.

I'd probably still suggest going with 11 speed 105 or so. More upgradeable in the future, bigger assortment of compatible parts than the one-off Tiagra that is a great groupset but kind of on it's own little island of non-compatibility in bike part land.

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I just don't see blowing $3k with tax and other accessories on a bike, that's a big jump from $1500. You're right that the extra $100ish to get a 105 group vs tiagra is probably a good idea. If I had to order stuff today I'd go with 2x11 R7000 shifters and derailleurs with a 52/36 crank and 11-40 MTB cassette - apparently the GS derailleur works fine even up to the 11-42, plus 11-speed MTB cassettes still fit on the cheaper 8/9/10-speed hubs like mine.

I do need to try skinnier tarz and whatnot at some point to see how bad they are on the gravel. If a 32mm would be OK then a lot more frames would work. The roads here can be pretty rocky :doe:

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Completed a metric century. That was pretty hard but I feel good about it, :notbad: speed for a 28 pound bike. The last leg (16 miles) after the coffee shop was pretty tough, not sure I would’ve made it without stopping for an iced coffee and sandwich.


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Completed a metric century. That was pretty hard but I feel good about it, :notbad: speed for a 28 pound bike. The last leg (16 miles) after the coffee shop was pretty tough, not sure I would’ve made it without stopping for an iced coffee and sandwich.


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:fuckyeah: dude! That’s an awesome ride.

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Wifey mentioned today that she wants to get some gravel bikes that we could leave at LBI. :notbad:

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Wifey mentioned today that she wants to get some gravel bikes that we could leave at LBI. :notbad:
Not that it matters to me in particular, but did you actually do the deed with this chick? I thought you were a seperatist combatant.
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Wifey mentioned today that she wants to get some gravel bikes that we could leave at LBI. :notbad:
:notbad:

I actually like my Raleigh quite a bit as a sort of beach bike, throw some slightly more aggressive tires on something like that and it's great for tooling around at the beach but not expensive enough to fret leaving it sitting outside and stuff in the humidity when that is required.

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Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:37 am
Took 2 short test rides today. The narrow stuff is definitely way better and I definitely want my shorter gearing back. Hopefully 30/34 instead of 30/32 will be good enough once someone gets the cassette in stock again.

How should I bed the brakes? The 2 piston spyres feel much smoother and more solid than my sliders but they don't have much bite yet. I have to pull the levers really hard for the same deceleration. The stock pads might just suck but I suspect that they need to be bedded properly first.

One of the neighbors got his new Checkpoint SL6 last night and I went out with them for a quick 2nd ride before it got too dark. I can keep up fine now so there's no huge need to upgrade anything else beyond comfort.
10 hard applications from 15-20 MPH or so without locking the tires or coming to a complete stop should do it.

Also, give the rotors a good cleaning with rubbing alcohol and a clean cloth.

Reminds me, I need new pads for the rear of the Sacklist - they're not really biting 100% after getting contaminated during a brake bleed.
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I just don't see blowing $3k with tax and other accessories on a bike, that's a big jump from $1500. You're right that the extra $100ish to get a 105 group vs tiagra is probably a good idea. If I had to order stuff today I'd go with 2x11 R7000 shifters and derailleurs with a 52/36 crank and 11-40 MTB cassette - apparently the GS derailleur works fine even up to the 11-42, plus 11-speed MTB cassettes still fit on the cheaper 8/9/10-speed hubs like mine.

I do need to try skinnier tarz and whatnot at some point to see how bad they are on the gravel. If a 32mm would be OK then a lot more frames would work. The roads here can be pretty rocky :doe:

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I run 32s and they're good for the smooth gravel around here, but the chunky stuff in central/northern PA requires 38s for both traction and comfort (and durability).
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Completed a metric century. That was pretty hard but I feel good about it, :notbad: speed for a 28 pound bike. The last leg (16 miles) after the coffee shop was pretty tough, not sure I would’ve made it without stopping for an iced coffee and sandwich.


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Solid!

I'm not a big fan of eating a real meal while on the bike, but if it works for you, go for it. I prefer to eat small things that are calorie dense when riding then wait to fully refuel until after.

For example, on today's ride I ate 1.5 packs of shot blocks, a clif bar, and drank a can of coke and a San Pellegrino orange fizzy lifting drink, plus went through 3 bottles of water.

And speaking of today's ride... that's the next post.
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So yeah, today’s ride. Met up with a couple locals from my area and did a distanced gravel ride in north NJ where I just rode off the front on all the climbs. :lol:

I didn’t feel like I was putting down that much effort, but Strava says otherwise: https://www.strava.com/activities/3849398874/

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Completed a metric century. That was pretty hard but I feel good about it, :notbad: speed for a 28 pound bike. The last leg (16 miles) after the coffee shop was pretty tough, not sure I would’ve made it without stopping for an iced coffee and sandwich.


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Killer. Nice job. You're an animal with that bike.

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Completed a metric century. That was pretty hard but I feel good about it, :notbad: speed for a 28 pound bike. The last leg (16 miles) after the coffee shop was pretty tough, not sure I would’ve made it without stopping for an iced coffee and sandwich.


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Fuuuuck I want to move down there. You fuckers are so lucky.

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Completed a metric century. That was pretty hard but I feel good about it, :notbad: speed for a 28 pound bike. The last leg (16 miles) after the coffee shop was pretty tough, not sure I would’ve made it without stopping for an iced coffee and sandwich.


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Solid!

I'm not a big fan of eating a real meal while on the bike, but if it works for you, go for it. I prefer to eat small things that are calorie dense when riding then wait to fully refuel until after.

For example, on today's ride I ate 1.5 packs of shot blocks, a clif bar, and drank a can of coke and a San Pellegrino orange fizzy lifting drink, plus went through 3 bottles of water.

And speaking of today's ride... that's the next post.
What are you doing to haul so much food and water with you, backpack?

Also what is a shot block besides what NHL forwards do to destroy their ankles?

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Solid!

I'm not a big fan of eating a real meal while on the bike, but if it works for you, go for it. I prefer to eat small things that are calorie dense when riding then wait to fully refuel until after.

For example, on today's ride I ate 1.5 packs of shot blocks, a clif bar, and drank a can of coke and a San Pellegrino orange fizzy lifting drink, plus went through 3 bottles of water.

And speaking of today's ride... that's the next post.
What are you doing to haul so much food and water with you, backpack?

Also what is a shot block besides what NHL forwards do to destroy their ankles?
Clif bar and shot blocks go in my jersey pockets, bottles on the bike. I stopped for water and drinks at local delis and covfefe shops.

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Wifey mentioned today that she wants to get some gravel bikes that we could leave at LBI. :notbad:
Not that it matters to me in particular, but did you actually do the deed with this chick? I thought you were a seperatist combatant.
Not yet, next step is :haus: early next year. Then we’ll figure that stuff out. Which she is on board with.

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Completed a metric century. That was pretty hard but I feel good about it, :notbad: speed for a 28 pound bike. The last leg (16 miles) after the coffee shop was pretty tough, not sure I would’ve made it without stopping for an iced coffee and sandwich.


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Fuuuuck I want to move down there. You fuckers are so lucky.
Has the wife asked about moving yet? Isn’t there a Corning facility here?

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Completed a metric century. That was pretty hard but I feel good about it, :notbad: speed for a 28 pound bike. The last leg (16 miles) after the coffee shop was pretty tough, not sure I would’ve made it without stopping for an iced coffee and sandwich.


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Solid!

I'm not a big fan of eating a real meal while on the bike, but if it works for you, go for it. I prefer to eat small things that are calorie dense when riding then wait to fully refuel until after.

For example, on today's ride I ate 1.5 packs of shot blocks, a clif bar, and drank a can of coke and a San Pellegrino orange fizzy lifting drink, plus went through 3 bottles of water.

And speaking of today's ride... that's the next post.
I think this was my first time having anything but water (and a Powerade once) on a ride.

I think I agree generally but the break was needed and I was working on zero calories for the day. The sandwich didn’t seem to have any negative impact, it was probably 400ish calories, not too big, not too little.

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Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:56 pm
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Completed a metric century. That was pretty hard but I feel good about it, :notbad: speed for a 28 pound bike. The last leg (16 miles) after the coffee shop was pretty tough, not sure I would’ve made it without stopping for an iced coffee and sandwich.


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Killer. Nice job. You're an animal with that bike.
Thanks :mahman:

I will say, this bike isn’t so bad, the new rear wheel seems to have improved it too. I’ve ridden quite a few old road bikes and mine is definitely the best I’ve experienced. We’ll see after I try the $3800 carbon Domane Monday. I’ve never ridden a road bike newer than 1990 I don’t think.

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Killer. Nice job. You're an animal with that bike.
Thanks :mahman:

I will say, this bike isn’t so bad, the new rear wheel seems to have improved it too. I’ve ridden quite a few old road bikes and mine is definitely the best I’ve experienced. We’ll see after I try the $3800 carbon Domane Monday. I’ve never ridden a road bike newer than 1990 I don’t think.
Be prepared to want to empty your wallet right then and there. It's a stiff bike and will feel like a rocket. You're going to love the STI shifters too.

Everything STI is great.

That happened with the Cervelo. 5 pedal strokes and I was like "fuck I gotta buy this thing" lol.

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