Jeeponomics 201: Toledo Griff

[ChrisoftheNorth]

How hard was it to drop the windshield Pecs? I haven’t done that.

Unfortunately, it's rather a PITA on JKs. JLs were actually designed to make it easier/faster to drop the windshield.

[SAWCE]

How hard was it to drop the windshield Pecs? I haven’t done that.

Unfortunately, it's rather a PITA on JKs. JLs were actually designed to make it easier/faster to drop the windshield.

Yeah I had heard that, but wasn’t sure. I’ll look up what it takes to drop it on a JK compared to the 4 bolts that Pecs said for his.

[D Griff]

Beach mode: Engaged.

I find it interesting to hear that “most will never take tops of door off” comments yet every single person I have known to have em do it on the regular ! Awesome !

Folding windshield though.... have yet to see it

It's pretty much impossible to take the hard top off if you don't have a garage...

[SAWCE]

I’m gonna get a few quotes for rhino lining the tub of my Jeep.

[D Griff]

How hard was it to drop the windshield Pecs? I haven’t done that.

Unfortunately, it's rather a PITA on JKs. JLs were actually designed to make it easier/faster to drop the windshield.

Eh, I don't really see why you'd want to... that said I'm sure I'll try it eventually. I am to do doors off, but is that it's "dangerous" so it'll have to be sometime when she's away or whatever.

[max225]

How hard was it to drop the windshield Pecs? I haven’t done that.

Pop the windshield wipers off and then it’s 4 bolts at the top of the windshield frame. Wifey did it while I was putting on some sunblock.

There is a lot to unpack with this statement

[SAWCE]

Unfortunately, it's rather a PITA on JKs. JLs were actually designed to make it easier/faster to drop the windshield.

Eh, I don't really see why you'd want to... that said I'm sure I'll try it eventually. I am to do doors off, but is that it's "dangerous" so it'll have to be sometime when she's away or whatever.

Post Office has been cruising around with no doors for years!

Good enough for government work.

[Apex]

Pop the windshield wipers off and then it’s 4 bolts at the top of the windshield frame. Wifey did it while I was putting on some sunblock.

There is a lot to unpack with this statement

It was sunny and I’m whiter than Casper.

[Apex]

Unfortunately, it's rather a PITA on JKs. JLs were actually designed to make it easier/faster to drop the windshield.

Eh, I don't really see why you'd want to... that said I'm sure I'll try it eventually. I am to do doors off, but is that it's "dangerous" so it'll have to be sometime when she's away or whatever.

Windshield isn’t meant to be driven around with folded down. It’s to fold down to get through an obstacle than put back up to continue driving.

Doors off was weird at first, biggest issue is the lack of door mirrors when there aren’t doors. But a couple mins down the road it was awesome and I’m looking forward to our next trip sans-doors.

[SAWCE]

Eh, I don't really see why you'd want to... that said I'm sure I'll try it eventually. I am to do doors off, but is that it's "dangerous" so it'll have to be sometime when she's away or whatever.

Windshield isn’t meant to be driven around with folded down. It’s to fold down to get through an obstacle than put back up to continue driving.

Doors off was weird at first, biggest issue is the lack of door mirrors when there aren’t doors. But a couple mins down the road it was awesome and I’m looking forward to our next trip sans-doors.

I grabbed some cheap mirrors on amazon to drop in the hinge holes. They vibrate and don’t work great, but $20 made me legal, although I haven’t put them on this time and I’ve been doorless for about a month now.

I may buy some nicer ones that are supposed to not vibrate.

[SAWCE]

Just called the bed lining shop that people in the local Jeep club recommended to me. $1400 if I bring it in with all the seats and carpets, $750 if I remove everything myself and all the have to do is remove the driver’s seat. I’ll budget to do this in the next month or two.

[max225]

Just called the bed lining shop that people in the local Jeep club recommended to me. $1400 if I bring it in with all the seats and carpets, $750 if I remove everything myself and all the have to do is remove the driver’s seat. I’ll budget to do this in the next month or two.

Wow they charge 10 hrs of labor to remove the interior ?

[SAWCE]

Just called the bed lining shop that people in the local Jeep club recommended to me. $1400 if I bring it in with all the seats and carpets, $750 if I remove everything myself and all the have to do is remove the driver’s seat. I’ll budget to do this in the next month or two.

Wow they charge 10 hrs of labor to remove the interior ?

Assuming their labor rate is $65/hr. I wonder what it actually is.

[Wocka Wocka]

Unfortunately, it's rather a PITA on JKs. JLs were actually designed to make it easier/faster to drop the windshield.

Eh, I don't really see why you'd want to... that said I'm sure I'll try it eventually. I am to do doors off, but is that it's "dangerous" so it'll have to be sometime when she's away or whatever.

Walking down the street is dangerous.

Get some nets, if she's that concerned.

[SAWCE]

Eh, I don't really see why you'd want to... that said I'm sure I'll try it eventually. I am to do doors off, but is that it's "dangerous" so it'll have to be sometime when she's away or whatever.

Walking down the street is dangerous.

Get some nets, if she's that concerned.

Or trail doors. I think they look cool.

[Wocka Wocka]

Walking down the street is dangerous.

Get some nets, if she's that concerned.

Or trail doors. I think they look cool.

Are those the bars?

[D Griff]

Eh, I don't really see why you'd want to... that said I'm sure I'll try it eventually. I am to do doors off, but is that it's "dangerous" so it'll have to be sometime when she's away or whatever.

Walking down the street is dangerous.

Get some nets, if she's that concerned.

She is scared of many things that aren't actually dangerous

I will just when she isn't around.

[SAWCE]

Or trail doors. I think they look cool.

Are those the bars?

There are different version, but they’re all essentially this:

[max225]

Walking down the street is dangerous.

Get some nets, if she's that concerned.

She is scared of many things that aren't actually dangerous

I will just when she isn't around.

Ima take her side here, driving without doors certainly increases the danger level substantially. My certainly wouldn’t do It either.

[Wocka Wocka]

She is scared of many things that aren't actually dangerous

I will just when she isn't around.

Ima take her side here, driving without doors certainly increases the danger level substantially. My certainly wouldn’t do It either.

I clearly hit the jackpot.

Rides motorcycles.

Wants a 2 door, soft top, wrongler.

[Johnny_P]

She is scared of many things that aren't actually dangerous

I will just when she isn't around.

Ima take her side here, driving without doors certainly increases the danger level substantially. My certainly wouldn’t do It either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqWuYc6d7-E

I'd leave the doors on if driving on the street, personally. Last thing you want is to be crusing around with your foot on the fender because jeep things and get in a roll over accident.

[SAWCE]

Ima take her side here, driving without doors certainly increases the danger level substantially. My certainly wouldn’t do It either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqWuYc6d7-E

I'd leave the doors on if driving on the street, personally. Last thing you want is to be crusing around with your foot on the fender because jeep things and get in a roll over accident.

If you’re driving fast enough that a roll over is possible I’d like to think that most of us here would have the common sense to not have appendages hanging outside the body..

[Wocka Wocka]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqWuYc6d7-E

I'd leave the doors on if driving on the street, personally. Last thing you want is to be crusing around with your foot on the fender because jeep things and get in a roll over accident.

If you’re driving fast enough that a roll over is possible I’d like to think that most of us here would have the common sense to not have appendages hanging outside the body..

Dat. I ride motorcycles, so I'm taking just as much risk every time I get on one of those as if I had my doors of on a

It's all a game of risk/reward. I'd rock no doors, but I guess I understand those who don't.

[D Griff]

Ima take her side here, driving without doors certainly increases the danger level substantially. My certainly wouldn’t do It either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqWuYc6d7-E

I'd leave the doors on if driving on the street, personally. Last thing you want is to be crusing around with your foot on the fender because jeep things and get in a roll over accident.

I don't think I'd on the highway. It would be fun in some instances though, like at the beach the other week. We probably never exceeded 35 MPH the whole time as we were just around the island and driving on the beach. I think I rode my bike more miles than we drove once we got there.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqWuYc6d7-E

I'd leave the doors on if driving on the street, personally. Last thing you want is to be crusing around with your foot on the fender because jeep things and get in a roll over accident.

If you’re driving fast enough that a roll over is possible I’d like to think that most of us here would have the common sense to not have appendages hanging outside the body..

The issue is keeping appendages inside the body in the event of a collision...

Still, I love driving without doors on.