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max225 wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 4:23 pm

Apparently Matt is a Fraud :mindblown:

Whoa and they just took the video down.
Wat

NVM just saw the post
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 4:34 pm
max225 wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 4:23 pm

Apparently Matt is a Fraud :mindblown:

Whoa and they just took the video down.
Wat
TFL posted a video about Matt being a fraud and took in down as i posted it... i posted the article right after. A lot of us follow the fraudster online
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I've never watched any of his videos so I thought it was a different Matt :lolol:
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max225 wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 2:21 pm So any thoughts on what would be a decent "attainable" appreciating fun car to own ?

Focus RS?
Acura NSX?
300zx tt?
Supra Turbo? like so https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sal ... pe=listing

A lot of car dudes are getting into the E46 M3 game. Frankly I hated that car which is clearly :wrong:
Supra Turbo. 1000rwhp or bust.
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max225 wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 4:35 pm
CaleDeRoo wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 4:34 pm

Wat
TFL posted a video about Matt being a fraud and took in down as i posted it... i posted the article right after. A lot of us follow the fraudster online
I've been watching Matt for years. It's been fun watching his business grow.

Insurance is a scam, :aintcare:
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One claim examined by investigators involved a Polaris RZR off-road vehicle towed from Sand Hollow State Park in April 2020. In a video of the tow posted to Wetzel’s YouTube channel, he was seen hauling the vehicle, court documents said — noting that AAA’s policy does not cover off-road vehicle tows.

The owner of the RZR told an investigator that he used his friend’s AAA membership to cover the cost of the recovery, court documents said. The claim filed with AAA said Winder Towing rescued the friend’s truck, instead of the RZR, the documents said.
:whocares: It sounds like he's doing us normal people a solid, but the the scam that is insurance is cracking down because they don't make enough money as it is.
Desertbreh wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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max225 wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 2:21 pm So any thoughts on what would be a decent "attainable" appreciating fun car to own ?

Focus RS?
Acura NSX?
300zx tt?
Supra Turbo? like so https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sal ... pe=listing

A lot of car dudes are getting into the E46 M3 game. Frankly I hated that car which is clearly :wrong:
C4 ZR1
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:45 pm
max225 wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 2:21 pm So any thoughts on what would be a decent "attainable" appreciating fun car to own ?

Focus RS?
Acura NSX?
300zx tt?
Supra Turbo? like so https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sal ... pe=listing

A lot of car dudes are getting into the E46 M3 game. Frankly I hated that car which is clearly :wrong:
C4 ZR1
Epic motor.
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Johnny_P wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:21 pm Earn it and burn it, Val.
max225 wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 5:35 pm Yes it's a cool car. But prepare the lube/sawdust.
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Desertbreh wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:56 pm
CaleDeRoo wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:45 pm

C4 ZR1
Epic motor.
The wider body looks amazing too.
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 6:11 pm
Desertbreh wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:56 pm

Epic motor.
The wider body looks amazing too.
:dat:

The meats in the back too... :datass:
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315s back when :225: 's were considered wide. Too bad it is essentially has base C5 performance.
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max225 wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 6:26 pm 315s back when :225: 's were considered wide. Too bad it is essentially has base C5 performance.
Versus the other cars from Japan that don't even have that.

If you like the coaster, do look into the nsx. Just make sure you get a 3.2L 6spd one
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max225 wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 6:26 pm 315s back when :225: 's were considered wide. Too bad it is essentially has base C5 performance.
My new Cammie will come with 235s all around, apparantly wider then a Kamry Fakesport :lol:
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Tarspin wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 6:39 pm
max225 wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 6:26 pm 315s back when :225: 's were considered wide. Too bad it is essentially has base C5 performance.
My new Cammie will come with 235s all around, apparantly wider then a Kamry Fakesport :lol:
The reason my screen name was changed by the, then mods was my whole bitchfest thread about the $21,995 civic sport having wider front tires than the :225: equipped $58,995 fake sport
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 6:39 pm
max225 wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 6:26 pm 315s back when :225: 's were considered wide. Too bad it is essentially has base C5 performance.
Versus the other cars from Japan that don't even have that.

If you like the coaster, do look into the nsx. Just make sure you get a 3.2L 6spd one
Except an nsx tripled in value since 2008 and a zr1 stayed flat … :notsure: if that will change
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max225 wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 6:49 pm
CaleDeRoo wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 6:39 pm

Versus the other cars from Japan that don't even have that.

If you like the coaster, do look into the nsx. Just make sure you get a 3.2L 6spd one
Except an nsx tripled in value since 2008 and a zr1 stayed flat … :notsure: if that will change
Doubt it. Not enough people know that they're cool.

Just need a few YouTube bros to buy the cheapest ones in the country...
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max225 wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 6:48 pm
Tarspin wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 6:39 pm

My new Cammie will come with 235s all around, apparantly wider then a Kamry Fakesport :lol:
The reason my screen name was changed by the, then mods was my whole bitchfest thread about the $21,995 civic sport having wider front tires than the :225: equipped $58,995 fake sport
Well aware, it makes no sense to put :225: on a car like that. Gotta say, it was a lot of laughs :lol:
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https://www.diablosubaru.com/new/Subaru ... ccdefa.htm

So we got brz’s all over …

Is there any reason to go 86?
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max225 wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:34 pm https://www.diablosubaru.com/new/Subaru ... ccdefa.htm

So we got brz’s all over …

Is there any reason to go 86?
Slightly different suspension tuning, a different front bumper, and the duckbill spoiler on the 86 Premium. Otherwise no. 86 has higher rear spring rates and I believe a stiffer bar, so it's a bit more eager to rotate. BRZ is more stable.
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I’m wondering if an 86 +LR D would be a good stable mate or if I’ll get bored and crave a P car … hmmm. I really like the current 86, in particular the styling and the price point and relative performance. I’m not necessarily someone that needs 1000hp in an ice car to feel like a man…

Like will this thing be more fun than my mini… is the real question. It’s heavier and bigger, worse interior, brakes and has less power… but it is manual and rwd and superior styling and perhaps better steering… hmmm
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max225 wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 8:39 pm I’m wondering if an 86 +LR D would be a good stable mate or if I’ll get bored and crave a P car … hmmm. I really like the current 86, in particular the styling and the price point and relative performance. I’m not necessarily someone that needs 1000hp in an ice car to feel like a man…

Like will this thing be more fun than my mini… is the real question. It’s heavier and bigger, worse interior, brakes and has less power… but it is manual and rwd and superior styling and perhaps better steering… hmmm
I doubt it would be MORE fun, just different fun.
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max225 wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:34 pm https://www.diablosubaru.com/new/Subaru ... ccdefa.htm

So we got brz’s all over …

Is there any reason to go 86?
Objectively better looking front end and more playful/slidey suspension tuning.

Get whatever is available.

I want Neptune Blue and am fiercely brand loyal to a manufacturer that I’ve worked for for over a decade. They drove this project so I’ll reward their input for a second time.
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max225 wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:34 pm https://www.diablosubaru.com/new/Subaru ... ccdefa.htm

So we got brz’s all over …

Is there any reason to go 86?
More racey suspension and lower MSRP. Better bloo IMO. I doubt you’d notice a difference on the street.

Dang, the mini is sub 2800 pounds?

I think NA 230 HP > turbo 260. I just don’t like turbos that much.
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D Griff wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:08 pm
max225 wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:34 pm https://www.diablosubaru.com/new/Subaru ... ccdefa.htm

So we got brz’s all over …

Is there any reason to go 86?
More racey suspension and lower MSRP. Better bloo IMO. I doubt you’d notice a difference on the street.

Dang, the mini is sub 2800 pounds?

I think NA 230 HP > turbo 260. I just don’t like turbos that much.
It’s all about the torque also. Gotta remember it reaches full boost at 1800 and torque of 240lb ft. The b48 in the mini is tuned great, it just feels like a big 4L v6 or something until 6k rpm. There is no lag whatsoever.

Mini is about 2850lbs so looks like they weigh about the same. I was :wrong: though it would be less.
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max225 wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:31 pm
D Griff wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:08 pm

More racey suspension and lower MSRP. Better bloo IMO. I doubt you’d notice a difference on the street.

Dang, the mini is sub 2800 pounds?

I think NA 230 HP > turbo 260. I just don’t like turbos that much.
It’s all about the torque also. Gotta remember it reaches full boost at 1800 and torque of 240lb ft. The b48 in the mini is tuned great, it just feels like a big 4L v6 or something until 6k rpm. There is no lag whatsoever.

Mini is about 2850lbs so looks like they weigh about the same. I was :wrong: though it would be less.
Either way, both are quite light cars by modern standards and I imagine about the same 1/4 mile since the 86 will get better launches and the Mini has a wider torque band/faster shifts.

I have the N20 version and it is similar, a lot of torque down low, it just doesn’t do much for me. Plenty fast but I find NA motors to be more fun. Although the supercharged Audi V6 I drove recently was :megusta:
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