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Believe it or not, some things can be done for enjoyment rather than just financial gainz and fiscal responsibility.
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Im buying Swedish's jb1. :troywax:

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MrH42 wrote:
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4zilch wrote:
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:notwrong:

but arguably some of us find enjoyment in modding.
As much as 16 year old me thought I could turn a Mazda Protege5 into a race car, I had no idea how far off it was from actually being that.
Well some of us are reasonable with our knowledge and expectations.
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Most cars can be made more fun with a rear sway bar and exhaust or intake for some noises, or stickier tires. Diminishing gains after that stuff and usually induces a ton of compromise.
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4zilch wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:07 pm
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Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:58 am


As much as 16 year old me thought I could turn a Mazda Protege5 into a race car, I had no idea how far off it was from actually being that.
Well some of us are reasonable with our knowledge and expectations.
you were reasonable at 16?
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dubshow wrote:
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Well some of us are reasonable with our knowledge and expectations.
you were reasonable at 16?
No, but I was broke, which is basically the same thing.

edit: but throwing a head/muffler on a dirty bike or atv and tuning the carb was a pretty normal thing.
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Mods always made me :rage: but I didn't learn until I was almost 30.... almost every mod had a downside... Now after sticking to OEM only... no more downsides. Live and learn.
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CaleDeRoo wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:58 am
4zilch wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:43 am


:notwrong:

but arguably some of us find enjoyment in modding.
Much enjoy wow


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4zilch wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:07 pm
MrH42 wrote:
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As much as 16 year old me thought I could turn a Mazda Protege5 into a race car, I had no idea how far off it was from actually being that.
Well some of us are reasonable with our knowledge and expectations.
I was naive! :(

I did have dope red and black leather seats. And an ECU from an MP3 Protege. Had to spend $450 and put that in so I was forced to buy premium and make an additional 10 hersperrs. Somehow that made sense to 16 year old me.

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To be fair, a properly setup from the factory car is a nice thing to have.
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Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:18 pm

MrH42 wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:13 pm
4zilch wrote:
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Well some of us are reasonable with our knowledge and expectations.
I was naive! :(

I did have dope red and black leather seats. And an ECU from an MP3 Protege. Had to spend $450 and put that in so I was forced to buy premium and make an additional 10 hersperrs. Somehow that made sense to 16 year old me.
I remember asking my mom for your P5

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Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:21 pm

CaleDeRoo wrote:
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MrH42 wrote:
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I was naive! :(

I did have dope red and black leather seats. And an ECU from an MP3 Protege. Had to spend $450 and put that in so I was forced to buy premium and make an additional 10 hersperrs. Somehow that made sense to 16 year old me.
I remember asking my mom for your P5
Your mom did spend a lot of time in it... :lolol:

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Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:27 pm

MrH42 wrote:
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CaleDeRoo wrote:
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I remember asking my mom for your P5
Your mom did spend a lot of time in it... :lolol:
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Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:21 pm

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I like turning wrenches, but modding your only car is for 20 year olds. It's a lot more relaxing and enjoyable to be able to do what I want with a secondary vehicle without the mad dash to meet a Monday morning deadline so I can get to work. I'm not adverse to modifying a primary vehicle, but it would be things that don't affect driving manners or comfort. The only stock vehicle I own is the GTI, and I really don't feel like adversely affecting its warranty because it is also the only vehicle where the repairs are not on me.
I've grown out of it.

I now want to buy a car as I want it from the factory.

Plus... since I'm never really tied to a car, modding and demodding a car when it inevitably gets the :plac: is exhausting.
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To be fair, a properly setup from the factory car is a nice thing to have.
To be fairrrrrrr.

You're right.

My GP was sublime. The new MX-5s with the uprated engines are :megusta:

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Zillon wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:22 pm
Melon wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:16 pm
To be fair, a properly setup from the factory car is a nice thing to have.
To be fairrrrrrr.

You're right.

My GP was sublime. The new MX-5s with the uprated engines are :megusta:

A well engineered and packaged car is something to cherish and behold.
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Zillon wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:21 pm
Huckleberry wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:03 pm
I like turning wrenches, but modding your only car is for 20 year olds. It's a lot more relaxing and enjoyable to be able to do what I want with a secondary vehicle without the mad dash to meet a Monday morning deadline so I can get to work. I'm not adverse to modifying a primary vehicle, but it would be things that don't affect driving manners or comfort. The only stock vehicle I own is the GTI, and I really don't feel like adversely affecting its warranty because it is also the only vehicle where the repairs are not on me.
I've grown out of it.

I now want to buy a car as I want it from the factory.

Plus... since I'm never really tied to a car, modding and demodding a car when it inevitably gets the :plac: is exhausting.
Exactly how I feel.

Demodding the MK6R was a nightmare, and I left all the Steeda shit on the Mustang, zero fucks given. I was so over it at that point I didn't care that there was about $5k in mods on it that would go away for free. I was done with non-simple mods since then.

Also, no matter what I did and how much I liked it, within 3 months the new would wear off and I'd be tired of the mods, looking for stock or something else.
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Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:31 pm

Mods allow me to build a car the exact way I want it tho.
That doesn't go for every vehicle, I've left the truck 100% alone (Other than OEM wheels)
But modding something to the point where it suits your taste is appealing.

I suppose I'll never "grow out of it"
I'll be turning wrenches until my hands can no longer hold them.
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Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:38 pm

Melon wrote:
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Mods allow me to build a car the exact way I want it tho.
That doesn't go for every vehicle, I've left the truck 100% alone (Other than OEM wheels)
But modding something to the point where it suits your taste is appealing.

I suppose I'll never "grow out of it"
I'll be turning wrenches until my hands can no longer hold them.
I :wub: the fruits of your automotive labors :melon:

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Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:39 pm

Can we just not believe in absolutes and say it depends? It's just as silly to think every car is perfect as it left the factory and every mod is stupid, as it is to just throw parts at a car with no plan of how they'll all interact with one another and change the characteristics of the vehicle.
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Can we just not believe in absolutes and say it depends? It's just as silly to think every car is perfect as it left the factory and every mod is stupid as it is to just throw parts at a car with no plan of how they'll all interact with one another and change the characteristics of the vehicle.
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Black and white is the only thing that exists in DFD
:dat:

This is the internet, after all, what's the point of having a rational discussion?

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Zillon wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:22 pm
Melon wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:16 pm
To be fair, a properly setup from the factory car is a nice thing to have.
The new MX-5s with the uprated engines are :megusta:

A well engineered and packaged car is something to cherish and behold.
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4zilch wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:44 pm
coogles wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:39 pm
Can we just not believe in absolutes and say it depends? It's just as silly to think every car is perfect as it left the factory and every mod is stupid as it is to just throw parts at a car with no plan of how they'll all interact with one another and change the characteristics of the vehicle.
Black and white is the only thing that exists in DFD
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Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:22 pm

Is there such a thing as a car that's perfect from the factory? They're nearly all tuned for fuel economy and understeer.

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