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Does anyone have any Range Rover Sport experience ? Looking for some reliability questions... yea yea i know "they are the worst" but anything empirical ?
06-08 have first model year issues, but I am surprised how well they seem to hold up from a Visual perspective. Almost no wear and tear on leather even at well over 100k miles etc.

In particular I am curious about the 4.4L Jag motor... it seems to have timing chain guide crap as per others but :whocares: if it happens at 150k+ miles. Tranny is ZF 6 speed so that should be ok.

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It's not powertrain that kills you on those. It's the rest of the entire car for the most part.

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MrH42 wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:13 pm
It's not powertrain that kills you on those. It's the rest of the entire car for the most part.
I am finding really limited info on actual issues. What are the most common probs ? I am a person who doesn't use any "gadgets" hell I set it and forget it when it comes to things like steering wheels/temperature etc. I never use heater, but AC is a must.

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Lol, the Soul was bought way back in 2019.
It's fair to remove it from the list.
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max225 wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:18 pm
MrH42 wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:13 pm
It's not powertrain that kills you on those. It's the rest of the entire car for the most part.
I am finding really limited info on actual issues. What are the most common probs ? I am a person who doesn't use any "gadgets" hell I set it and forget it when it comes to things like steering wheels/temperature etc. I never use heater, but AC is a must.
My old boss had a RR Sport (English dude). It was really nice inside despite having some years/miles on it in Los Angeles. He said that service was super pricey... most of his issues were little things that could possibly be DIY.

I may join the :plac: this year for :jeep:

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D Griff wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 4:31 pm
max225 wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:18 pm


I am finding really limited info on actual issues. What are the most common probs ? I am a person who doesn't use any "gadgets" hell I set it and forget it when it comes to things like steering wheels/temperature etc. I never use heater, but AC is a must.
My old boss had a RR Sport (English dude). It was really nice inside despite having some years/miles on it in Los Angeles. He said that service was super pricey... most of his issues were little things that could possibly be DIY.

I may join the :plac: this year for :jeep:
Beep Beep for the :jeep: :jeep:

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D Griff wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 4:31 pm
max225 wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:18 pm


I am finding really limited info on actual issues. What are the most common probs ? I am a person who doesn't use any "gadgets" hell I set it and forget it when it comes to things like steering wheels/temperature etc. I never use heater, but AC is a must.
My old boss had a RR Sport (English dude). It was really nice inside despite having some years/miles on it in Los Angeles. He said that service was super pricey... most of his issues were little things that could possibly be DIY.

I may join the :plac: this year for :jeep:
I would DIY all service items. Based on what I can tell, the suspension needs doing at about 100k miles, which is probably around 1500-2000, and of course the doomsday timing chain, but that should be audible during any test drive.

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max225 wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:18 pm
MrH42 wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:13 pm
It's not powertrain that kills you on those. It's the rest of the entire car for the most part.
I am finding really limited info on actual issues. What are the most common probs ? I am a person who doesn't use any "gadgets" hell I set it and forget it when it comes to things like steering wheels/temperature etc. I never use heater, but AC is a must.
I believe the Air Suspension is a problem. I'm not sure about the cost per corner on replacement parts.
max225 wrote: You can't "hoon" a pos like that. You can however set up a methlab.

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Desertbreh wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 4:46 pm
max225 wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:18 pm


I am finding really limited info on actual issues. What are the most common probs ? I am a person who doesn't use any "gadgets" hell I set it and forget it when it comes to things like steering wheels/temperature etc. I never use heater, but AC is a must.
I believe the Air Suspension is a problem. I'm not sure about the cost per corner on replacement parts.
Yea as it ages I can totally see it.
$500 per set it seems.

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max225 wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 4:50 pm
Desertbreh wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 4:46 pm


I believe the Air Suspension is a problem. I'm not sure about the cost per corner on replacement parts.
Yea as it ages I can totally see it.
$500 per set it seems.
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sal ... pe=listing

Here you go brah. If you throw another 10 on top for repairs its still a nice rig for 30 grand.
max225 wrote: You can't "hoon" a pos like that. You can however set up a methlab.

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max225 wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 4:50 pm
Desertbreh wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 4:46 pm


I believe the Air Suspension is a problem. I'm not sure about the cost per corner on replacement parts.
Yea as it ages I can totally see it.
$500 per set it seems.
I personally love how the LR4 looks over the RR Sport but they are bigger/heavier I think.

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/cto/d/ ... 81611.html

Probably the OG owner since it's in Woodside :waxer:
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Desertbreh wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 4:58 pm
max225 wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 4:50 pm


Yea as it ages I can totally see it.
$500 per set it seems.
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sal ... pe=listing

Here you go brah. If you throw another 10 on top for repairs its still a nice rig for 30 grand.
Yea if you remove the supercharger that senselessly blows up at 100k, you can save another 5k. I have no interest in "performance" when it comes to a tank, it strains an already strained powertrain.

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max225 wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 5:02 pm
Desertbreh wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 4:58 pm


https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sal ... pe=listing

Here you go brah. If you throw another 10 on top for repairs its still a nice rig for 30 grand.
Yea if you remove the supercharger that senselessly blows up at 100k, you can save another 5k. I have no interest in "performance" when it comes to a tank, it strains an already strained powertrain.
I would want the blower. Which just leaves me hating myself bitterly the second after I agree to buy one of these used while the whole world laughs their ass off at me as the repair bills stack up like cordwood. I do agree the 2002-2012 Sports are nice looking trucks with interiors like a bespoke living room. They're just not a smart thing to do with your money.
max225 wrote: You can't "hoon" a pos like that. You can however set up a methlab.

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Desertbreh wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 5:17 pm
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Yea if you remove the supercharger that senselessly blows up at 100k, you can save another 5k. I have no interest in "performance" when it comes to a tank, it strains an already strained powertrain.
I would want the blower. Which just leaves me hating myself bitterly the second after I agree to buy one of these used while the whole world laughs their ass off at me as the repair bills stack up like cordwood. I do agree the 2002-2012 Sports are nice looking trucks with interiors like a bespoke living room. They're just not a smart thing to do with your money.
The blower literally increases running costs by 30%. :butwhy: 0-60 in 7 is plenty obviously speaking for myself.

Repair costs are the question in mind here. I still don’t have any solid info yet.

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The "Responsible" option is a pre facelift JGC but I find it to be quite hideous and too mom mobily. A RR is at least somewhat unique and cool... worthy of the increased running costs IMO.

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The "Responsible" option is a pre facelift JGC but I find it to be quite hideous and too mom mobily. A RR is at least somewhat unique and cool... worthy of the increased running costs IMO.
It's a truck. I'm ok with it not being cool. The RR only impresses gay men and people who detest money.
max225 wrote: You can't "hoon" a pos like that. You can however set up a methlab.

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Desertbreh wrote:
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max225 wrote:
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The "Responsible" option is a pre facelift JGC but I find it to be quite hideous and too mom mobily. A RR is at least somewhat unique and cool... worthy of the increased running costs IMO.
It's a truck. I'm ok with it not being cool. The RR only impresses gay men and people who detest money.
A truck has a bed. It is an SUV :triggered:

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Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:28 pm

FIRST!

Wife unit is trading in the 2016 Tiquan with 75k on a 2017 Touareg Wolfsbuuuuurg w/25k.... I don't have specific details except that they are giving her $14k for the Teeg and lowered the Touareg from $30 to $27K ...I am taking off to go check it out while my son finalizes the paperwork
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3/5?

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CaleDeRoo wrote:
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3/5?
:howdareu: :ayfkm: It's been explained at least 4 times now.

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What do you say to the god of death?

Not today...

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max225 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:49 pm
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3/5?
:howdareu: :ayfkm: It's been explained at least 4 times now.
And it still makes no sense. :derp:

3/5 :plac: as I understand it was a purchase made where the vehicle isn't intended to be driven by the DFD member taking krebitz for the :plac:, be it a spouse or girlfriend or other member of the :haus: hold.
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