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Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:42 pm

What's the CR on the 2.0? Is it boost friendly? Seems like a super charger would be a good option? :iono:
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MrH42 wrote:Swapping the 2.0 to the 2.4 would be cheap...if they had a naturally aspirated 2.4 ready to drop in. They don't. They have a more torquey, NA 2.5 that makes substantially less power than the current motor, and a turbo 2.4 liter. What's being proposed would mean all new internals, tuning, etc. That's a big cost that wouldn't be worth it.

They'll go to the TNGA platform next gen and have more engine options then.
They didn't have an NA 2.0 either. It would be a similar investment (except smaller because the transmission and accessories and mounting and intake and exhaust and chassis are all done) to what they did for 2012... Except they have way more money now and way more 2.4 blocks being made.

WAY WAY WAY cheaper than building a whole new car.

Either way I'm fucking :wrong: as usual.
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Sounds totally feasible when they come out with a new model. Just not something I see them doing with this current body style. :iono:

I'm curious what we get next gen. Should only be a few years away now.

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Thu Mar 26, 2020 6:02 pm

Detroit wrote:
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What's the CR on the 2.0? Is it boost friendly? Seems like a super charger would be a good option? :iono:
There are a few supercharger kits available.

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What's the CR on the 2.0? Is it boost friendly? Seems like a super charger would be a good option? :iono:
There are a few supercharger kits available.
I wonder if any are worth a damn.

The FI kits for Pentastars are a joke. It's not a matter of if the engine blows up, but when. Some engines just can't take boost.
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My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.

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MrH42 wrote:Swapping the 2.0 to the 2.4 would be cheap...if they had a naturally aspirated 2.4 ready to drop in. They don't. They have a more torquey, NA 2.5 that makes substantially less power than the current motor, and a turbo 2.4 liter. What's being proposed would mean all new internals, tuning, etc. That's a big cost that wouldn't be worth it.

They'll go to the TNGA platform next gen and have more engine options then.
They didn't have an NA 2.0 either. It would be a similar investment (except smaller because the transmission and accessories and mounting and intake and exhaust and chassis are all done) to what they did for 2012... Except they have way more money now and way more 2.4 blocks being made.

WAY WAY WAY cheaper than building a whole new car.

Either way I'm fucking :wrong: as usual.
I don't think you're :wrong: it's just a matter of business case. You're talking at least $100M in investment (at least, that's what it takes at an OEM like GM or FCA), so you either have to price vehicles higher for it OR prove that you'll sell more with the engine. That's the hard part...to prove how many incremental units will be sold from the investment in the new engine.

OR

Find more volume for the engine to amortize the investment over. A 2.4 NA crosstrek would be pretty epic. Could even work well in an Outback or something?
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Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:41 pm

I keep saying CrossTrek is the answer, but the man from the Desert keep stabbing a Voodoo doll in a red shirt with a vodka bottle in it's hand every time I do it... (You heard about the bigger engine in the Cross tranny right? It has been confirmed)

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I keep saying CrossTrek is the answer, but the man from the Desert keep stabbing a Voodoo doll in a red shirt with a vodka bottle in it's hand every time I do it... (You heard about the bigger engine in the Cross tranny right? It has been confirmed)
A Crosstrek with balls is the perfect car.
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I keep saying CrossTrek is the answer, but the man from the Desert keep stabbing a Voodoo doll in a red shirt with a vodka bottle in it's hand every time I do it... (You heard about the bigger engine in the Cross tranny right? It has been confirmed)
A Crosstrek with balls is the perfect car.
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Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:29 pm

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I keep saying CrossTrek is the answer, but the man from the Desert keep stabbing a Voodoo doll in a red shirt with a vodka bottle in it's hand every time I do it... (You heard about the bigger engine in the Cross tranny right? It has been confirmed)
A veritable FEAST OF POWER.
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Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:16 pm

In the next couple parts of the SSR saga, today our hero attempted to make the generic center caps fit the :ramz: by filling the gaps with JB Weld black RTV. Seems to be working ok, the excess was just scraped off leaving a non-rattling cap behind.

Stickers for the caps were ordered from Wuhan a couple of weeks ago. In theory those will arrive at some point.

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Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:09 am

Looks good. Too bad I can't get something like that for my wheels. I need center caps for the rear

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max225 wrote:
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I keep saying CrossTrek is the answer, but the man from the Desert keep stabbing a Voodoo doll in a red shirt with a vodka bottle in it's hand every time I do it... (You heard about the bigger engine in the Cross tranny right? It has been confirmed)
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Get a Crosstranny Johnny and you life has fucking ended.
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Johnny_P wrote:
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max225 wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:41 pm
I keep saying CrossTrek is the answer, but the man from the Desert keep stabbing a Voodoo doll in a red shirt with a vodka bottle in it's hand every time I do it... (You heard about the bigger engine in the Cross tranny right? It has been confirmed)
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This is close to home on so many levels

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Fri Mar 27, 2020 11:33 am

Every person I know who has bought a Crosstrek says the same thing, even my non-car friends: it's really slow.

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Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:07 pm

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Every person I know who has bought a Crosstrek says the same thing, even my non-car friends: it's really slow.
We’re all quite aware. But there is now a new engine ..

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Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:28 pm

That 2.5L is a turd too though

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Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:34 pm

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That 2.5L is a turd too though
Seems adequate. Crosstranny doesn’t need that much power. It’s a utilitarian vehicle

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That 2.5L is a turd too though
Seems adequate. Crosstranny doesn’t need that much power. It’s a utilitarian vehicle
~200hp would be pretty fantastic IMO. The 2.5 should be pushing 190...so that might solve a lot of the issues.
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That 2.5L is a turd too though
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Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:37 pm

did y'all see the smoking tires love letter to Troy's car?
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Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:05 pm

I went to put the :ramz: on the car this afternoon only to find out that I was sent the wrong god damn lug nuts, so it'll be another week or two for the right ones to fucking ship here. Fuck cars.

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Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:41 pm

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I went to put the :ramz: on the car this afternoon only to find out that I was sent the wrong god damn lug nuts, so it'll be another week or two for the right ones to fucking ship here. Fuck cars.
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did y'all see the smoking tires love letter to Troy's car?
I posted it here

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Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:50 pm

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I went to put the :ramz: on the car this afternoon only to find out that I was sent the wrong god damn lug nuts, so it'll be another week or two for the right ones to fucking ship here. Fuck cars.
Yea this is the risk with a lot of this type of thing :-/ :rage:

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