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Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:38 pm

There's been a serious lack of beige 9-fo-fo updates on here

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Cool. Does this mean Porsche will start remanufacturing the 944 Turbo as an economy car? I will take mine in Guards Red with Phone Dial RAMZ. KThanksbra.
944 is not cheap. More like some sort of golf 1.8tsi powered poorsche gayman with 180hp and 2500# which wouldn’t be that bad to be honest
Yeah that would be rad.

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CaleDeRoo wrote:
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There's been a serious lack of beige 9-fo-fo updates on here
Does someone have one?

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D Griff wrote:
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There's been a serious lack of beige 9-fo-fo updates on here
Does someone have one?
Huckleberry bought one off the 'tex last year IIRC. Beige with maroon interior and phone dials?

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A modern 914 would be :neat:
Hell yea. Shit, I may be the only one on here who :wub: the OG 914 and 916.
:wap: Where are these mangos?

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A modern 914 would be :neat:
Hell yea. Shit, I may be the only one on here who :wub: the OG 914 and 916.
I'd be cool with a modern 914. Basically a Cayman with a VW 2.0T? Works for me.

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Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:23 pm

CaleDeRoo wrote:
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Does someone have one?
Huckleberry bought one off the 'tex last year IIRC. Beige with maroon interior and phone dials?
Orly?
:jimp:
:wap: Where are these mangos?

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troyguitar wrote:
Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:19 pm
wap wrote:
Hell yea. Shit, I may be the only one on here who :wub: the OG 914 and 916.
I'd be cool with a modern 914. Basically a Cayman with a VW 2.0T? Works for me.
Would be awesome, agreed.
:wap: Where are these mangos?

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Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:25 pm

troyguitar wrote:
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Hell yea. Shit, I may be the only one on here who :wub: the OG 914 and 916.
I'd be cool with a modern 914. Basically a Cayman with a VW 2.0T? Works for me.
It's called the 718 :doe:

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Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:27 pm

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I'd be cool with a modern 914. Basically a Cayman with a VW 2.0T? Works for me.
It's called the 718 :doe:
Starting at $60k :doe:

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troyguitar wrote:
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It's called the 718 :doe:
Starting at $60k :doe:
:dat:

Modern 914 should be a competitor to Troys 86, so more like $35-40k maybe?

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wap wrote:
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A modern 914 would be :neat:
Hell yea. Shit, I may be the only one on here who :wub: the OG 914 and 916.
Mah :wap: I have serious :wub: for the 914. Nearly bought one instead of my 968, but the 968 was a much better daily before I went :fullretard: trackcar with it.

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Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:40 pm

troyguitar wrote:
Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:27 pm
CaleDeRoo wrote:
It's called the 718 :doe:
Starting at $60k :doe:
Cayman with a 2.0T :doe:

Your 914 wish may be coming

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Hell yea. Shit, I may be the only one on here who :wub: the OG 914 and 916.
Mah :wap: I have serious :wub: for the 914. Nearly bought one instead of my 968, but the 968 was a much better daily before I went :fullretard: trackcar with it.
:nice:
I feel that since I built a Type 1 Beetle 35-ish (!) years ago I'd do well with a 914. Many parts are interchangeable with a Beetle and I still kinda :member: those air cooled beasts.
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Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:50 pm

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Starting at $60k :doe:
Cayman with a 2.0T :doe:

Your 914 wish may be coming
Meh. For better or worse I'm locked into this car through at least 2025. Maybe I'll be in a position to get something special when I turn 40 in late 2025. Until then it's all Toyota all the time.

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Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:53 pm

troyguitar wrote:
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Cayman with a 2.0T :doe:

Your 914 wish may be coming
Meh. For better or worse I'm locked into this car through at least 2025. Maybe I'll be in a position to get something special when I turn 40 in late 2025. Until then it's all Toyota all the time.
Seems like a reasonable time frame ? :iono:

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Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:57 pm

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Meh. For better or worse I'm locked into this car through at least 2025. Maybe I'll be in a position to get something special when I turn 40 in late 2025. Until then it's all Toyota all the time.
Seems like a reasonable time frame ? :iono:
:plac: :doe:

I don't really want anything else affordable anyway :doe: so it's not an issue.

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Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:02 am

The new Toyota mr-s with the Yaris GRMN supercharged engine is gonna be :jimp:

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max225 wrote:
Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:53 pm
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Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:50 pm
Meh. For better or worse I'm locked into this car through at least 2025. Maybe I'll be in a position to get something special when I turn 40 in late 2025. Until then it's all Toyota all the time.
Seems like a reasonable time frame ? :iono:
:dat:

It is a sweet car... I don't see the problem. Sure, it's fun to think about other things, but not a requirement.

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A TRD/STi turbo 86 would be pretty epic. The one downside it has, in the eyes of the masses, is power.
Agreed.

There must be something about the platform or rear end or SOMETHING that can't easily take more power. That or they just don't want to spend the money for a new engine. That's also not cheap with federalization, emissions, etc costs.
The engine is basically a pancake, and the hood line is really, really low. Cylinder heads are pretty much up against the shock towers. There's not a lot of room for a turbo setup at all.

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Agreed.

There must be something about the platform or rear end or SOMETHING that can't easily take more power. That or they just don't want to spend the money for a new engine. That's also not cheap with federalization, emissions, etc costs.
The engine is basically a pancake, and the hood line is really, really low. Cylinder heads are pretty much up against the shock towers. There's not a lot of room for a turbo setup at all.
What they should do, but won't if the new car is going turbro and/or TNGA platform, is make an NA version of the Subaru FA 2.4T the same way they made the current 2.0 from the WRX FA 2.0T. The engine is the same external size and same stroke, it's just bored out. It could still rev the same but make a solid 10-20% more torque/power across the board.

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Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:38 pm

People stuffed a Ferrari 458 engine into the platform can’t be that tough to make it fit

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max225 wrote:People stuffed a Ferrari 458 engine into the platform can’t be that tough to make it fit
Eh, aftermarket vs OEM is not even close to the same requirements. Gotta have things like AC plumbing and crumple zones for OEM. That engine also costs more than the car. Moving from the 2.0 to the 2.4 would be relatively cheap, especially since they already sell way more 2.4T-equipped vehicles now.

One thing that will probably happen eventually is the combo of those two: someone will come up with an aftermarket swap kit to put the 2.4 in my car.

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Swapping the 2.0 to the 2.4 would be cheap...if they had a naturally aspirated 2.4 ready to drop in. They don't. They have a more torquey, NA 2.5 that makes substantially less power than the current motor, and a turbo 2.4 liter. What's being proposed would mean all new internals, tuning, etc. That's a big cost that wouldn't be worth it.

They'll go to the TNGA platform next gen and have more engine options then.

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Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:34 pm

MrH42 wrote:Swapping the 2.0 to the 2.4 would be cheap...if they had a naturally aspirated 2.4 ready to drop in. They don't. They have a more torquey, NA 2.5 that makes substantially less power than the current motor, and a turbo 2.4 liter. What's being proposed would mean all new internals, tuning, etc. That's a big cost that wouldn't be worth it.

They'll go to the TNGA platform next gen and have more engine options then.
They didn't have an NA 2.0 either. It would be a similar investment (except smaller because the transmission and accessories and mounting and intake and exhaust and chassis are all done) to what they did for 2012... Except they have way more money now and way more 2.4 blocks being made.

WAY WAY WAY cheaper than building a whole new car.

Either way I'm fucking :wrong: as usual.


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