Let’s define dangerously slow

Brothers of brub and brap, this is your safe space.

What’s your definition of dangerously slow

>6
0
No votes
>7
0
No votes
>8
0
No votes
>9
4
18%
>10
8
36%
>11
1
5%
>12
3
14%
>15
5
23%
>30
1
5%
 
Total votes: 22
User avatar
max225
Command Chief Master Sirloin
Command Chief Master Sirloin
Posts: 24056
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 1:49 am
Drives: JCW Clowncar

Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:32 am

In 0-60.
:plac: coined the term but we should narrow it down :popcorn:

User avatar
CaleDeRoo
Senior Chief Patty Officer
Senior Chief Patty Officer
Posts: 2181
Joined: Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:46 pm
Drives: C5
Location: Western NY

Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:46 am

My :wankel: :truk: was borderline unless I was prepared and over 5000rpm 120hp ish and 2700lbs.

User avatar
Johnny_P
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 33624
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:52 am
Drives: Burble
Location: Blowin' fat stacks in Philly

Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:02 pm

max225 wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:32 am
In 0-60.
:plac: coined the term but we should narrow it down :popcorn:
Real 0-60 or magazine brake torque with rollout on prepped surface with a pro driver 0-60?

I’d say 10 seconds 5-60 is unacceptable.

User avatar
max225
Command Chief Master Sirloin
Command Chief Master Sirloin
Posts: 24056
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 1:49 am
Drives: JCW Clowncar

Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:05 pm

Johnny_P wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:02 pm
max225 wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:32 am
In 0-60.
:plac: coined the term but we should narrow it down :popcorn:
Real 0-60 or magazine brake torque with rollout on prepped surface with a pro driver 0-60?

I’d say 10 seconds 5-60 is unacceptable.
Oh boy ... Ok use the slower of the 2.

User avatar
Detroit
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 32249
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 7:10 am
Drives: Camdalf the Brub

Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:05 pm

Johnny_P wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:02 pm
max225 wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:32 am
In 0-60.
:plac: coined the term but we should narrow it down :popcorn:
Real 0-60 or magazine brake torque with rollout on prepped surface with a pro driver 0-60?

I’d say 10 seconds 5-60 is unacceptable.
:dat:
Desertbreh wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:40 pm
My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.

User avatar
Johnny_P
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 33624
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:52 am
Drives: Burble
Location: Blowin' fat stacks in Philly

Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:10 pm

max225 wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:05 pm
Johnny_P wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:02 pm


Real 0-60 or magazine brake torque with rollout on prepped surface with a pro driver 0-60?

I’d say 10 seconds 5-60 is unacceptable.
Oh boy ... Ok use the slower of the 2.
I think my ideal is 8 sec or less 0-60 in normal mode just mash it from a stop light with a pretzel in one hand.

User avatar
CorvetteWaxer
First Sirloin
First Sirloin
Posts: 6766
Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2017 11:35 pm
Drives: nothing
Location: Somewhere else

Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:11 pm

Anything 9 or over.

Honestly, everything should be able to be in the 6's these days.... maybe the 7's.... but I wouldn't buy them, I merge too much.
I'm on my last bag of peas.

User avatar
max225
Command Chief Master Sirloin
Command Chief Master Sirloin
Posts: 24056
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 1:49 am
Drives: JCW Clowncar

Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:12 pm

Johnny_P wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:10 pm
max225 wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:05 pm


Oh boy ... Ok use the slower of the 2.
I think my ideal is 8 sec or less 0-60 in normal mode just mash it from a stop light with a pretzel in one hand.
Right but the question is around dangerously slow :doe:

User avatar
golftdibrad
Chief Master Sirloin
Chief Master Sirloin
Posts: 14701
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:01 am
Drives: Turbo Yaris, Clear Miata/MR2

Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:13 pm

11 seconds. But that's not American's pussy foot acceleration, that's lets floor this bitchhhhhhh
Weekly :fax:
? wrote: "Every lie we tell incurs a debt to the truth. Sooner or later that debt is paid."

User avatar
Johnny_P
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 33624
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:52 am
Drives: Burble
Location: Blowin' fat stacks in Philly

Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:13 pm

max225 wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:12 pm
Johnny_P wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:10 pm


I think my ideal is 8 sec or less 0-60 in normal mode just mash it from a stop light with a pretzel in one hand.
Right but the question is around dangerously slow :doe:
10 sec in that scenario.

User avatar
wap
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 33300
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 12:52 am
Drives: Mk6Veyron
Location: Pepperland

Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:56 pm

I voted greater than 10 seconds these days. It's all relative though, isn't it? 36 years ago when the M1 :turboyaris: came out in Murica the car mags were all :fuckyeah: about a sub-10 second 0-60. (C&D clocked it at 9.7). But when supercars were doing it in the 7's, sub-10 was respectable.

Nowadays, as :waxer: said above, most things should be around sub-7 to be at least somewhat interesting,
:wap: Where are these mangos?

User avatar
Apex
Command Chief Master Sirloin
Command Chief Master Sirloin
Posts: 24903
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:36 pm
Drives: CookieMonster
Location: NJ

Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:00 pm

If it’s not sub 3 seconds, why even bother? Full time :plaid:

User avatar
golftdibrad
Chief Master Sirloin
Chief Master Sirloin
Posts: 14701
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:01 am
Drives: Turbo Yaris, Clear Miata/MR2

Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:14 pm

wap wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:56 pm
I voted greater than 10 seconds these days. It's all relative though, isn't it? 36 years ago when the M1 :turboyaris: came out in Murica the car mags were all :fuckyeah: about a sub-10 second 0-60. (C&D clocked it at 9.7). But when supercars were doing it in the 7's, sub-10 was respectable.

Nowadays, as :waxer: said above, most things should be around sub-7 to be at least somewhat interesting,
:dat:

I voted 11+ because in the real world you never need the zero part.

Even shitty on ramps, pull half a g ffs and rev it out and you will merge at highway speed
Weekly :fax:
? wrote: "Every lie we tell incurs a debt to the truth. Sooner or later that debt is paid."

User avatar
golftdibrad
Chief Master Sirloin
Chief Master Sirloin
Posts: 14701
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:01 am
Drives: Turbo Yaris, Clear Miata/MR2

Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:16 pm

Also, my car might be doing a 8 second 0-60 right now. Maybe more. No real boost happening. You know what? It's still not dangerously slow.
Weekly :fax:
? wrote: "Every lie we tell incurs a debt to the truth. Sooner or later that debt is paid."

User avatar
D Griff
Chief Master Sirloin
Chief Master Sirloin
Posts: 12241
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:49 am
Drives: AARPurple Brub Tub

Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:22 pm

I went > 12 seconds. I DDed a Bang Bus for 90K miles that was over 20 and it was definitely scary/sucky at times but I never failed to merge and never wrecked. Granted, something like that vehicle requires a lot more focus and planning ahead than your average :derp: , but I'd be surprised if most :tits: have ever accelerated to 60 in under 12 seconds in their lives, regardless of vehicle. Most merge issues are caused by fucking Instagramming dumbass :millennial: or :wap: slowing down instead of getting on the throttle while merging. Moar powah won't solve that.

User avatar
Tarspin
Senior Master Sirloin
Senior Master Sirloin
Posts: 8571
Joined: Fri Nov 04, 2016 7:06 pm
Drives: mk7 :gorf:
Location: Toronto, Canada

Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:57 pm

Not surprised that >10 is so popular.

User avatar
dubshow
Senior Master Sirloin
Senior Master Sirloin
Posts: 9196
Joined: Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:18 am
Drives: All of them

Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:09 pm

ok, so at first I was at 15 second is :nope: :gtfo:

Then I look back at the first "new" car I deemed to slow to be safe.

The Ford Fiesta in 2014. 5 speed :manuel:

I pulled out safely in front of traffic. Tons of room on a 60 mph highway... It was a dog... Also had 3 people in it which added to the experience Id say.

So the published 0-60 from MT is 9.5 seconds. i'll say it was easily over 10 seconds in that scenario. I am changing my answer.

For a bench mark. The 1983/84 GTI was 8.3 seconds on 1983 tires...
This post is illegal in the European Union.

User avatar
dubshow
Senior Master Sirloin
Senior Master Sirloin
Posts: 9196
Joined: Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:18 am
Drives: All of them

Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:12 pm

Dang. I can't change mah vote!

:sad:
This post is illegal in the European Union.

User avatar
max225
Command Chief Master Sirloin
Command Chief Master Sirloin
Posts: 24056
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 1:49 am
Drives: JCW Clowncar

Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:27 pm

D Griff wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:22 pm
I went > 12 seconds. I DDed a Bang Bus for 90K miles that was over 20 and it was definitely scary/sucky at times but I never failed to merge and never wrecked. Granted, something like that vehicle requires a lot more focus and planning ahead than your average :derp: , but I'd be surprised if most :tits: have ever accelerated to 60 in under 12 seconds in their lives, regardless of vehicle. Most merge issues are caused by fucking Instagramming dumbass :millennial: or :wap: slowing down instead of getting on the throttle while merging. Moar powah won't solve that.
:wub: same as me. :tits: don't rage merge... i'd say most "normal" merges take 20-30 seconds... so I don't see the danger... the "danger" comes maybe... from being at 10k feet elevation + 4 people + luggage + trying to pass at an incline... :unicorn: scenario...

My 10 second 0-60 TDI was certainly not too slow, I drove that thing 75k miles.

User avatar
McQueenBalls
Peppered Angus
Peppered Angus
Posts: 83
Joined: Thu Aug 29, 2019 6:07 pm
Drives: 2016 328i M Sport
Location: Los Angeles

Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:30 pm

Id say anything 8 or less is dangerously slow. But I mean, all kinds of people in LA rolling in Suburu Outbacks that do 0-60 in like 10 sec real world with the continuously vadge trans and they all live.. People in LA love those Outbacks. It tells people around them "I'M ACTIVE! I am TOTES going to take this AF to Brochella and camp at 'J-Tree' on the way".

Your egg car didn't feel slow because it had torque. So while 0-60 was slow, you always had torque on demand so on the highway it prob felt fine. 0-60 is misleading Max, and this will not stand.
Current: 2016 328i M sport JB+, lots of gay options - Most Expensive 4 banger in history

Past: 2010 GTI 2dr 6 spd stage1 shit pile | 2013 320i Sportpkg stage 1 - Groundskeeper's Edition

User avatar
wap
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 33300
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 12:52 am
Drives: Mk6Veyron
Location: Pepperland

Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:41 pm

dubshow wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:09 pm
ok, so at first I was at 15 second is :nope: :gtfo:

Then I look back at the first "new" car I deemed to slow to be safe.

The Ford Fiesta in 2014. 5 speed :manuel:

I pulled out safely in front of traffic. Tons of room on a 60 mph highway... It was a dog... Also had 3 people in it which added to the experience Id say.

So the published 0-60 from MT is 9.5 seconds. i'll say it was easily over 10 seconds in that scenario. I am changing my answer.

For a bench mark. The 1983/84 GTI was 8.3 seconds on 1983 tires...
:wrong:
As I stated above, C&D had it at 9.7. I couldn't find their road test archived but I just finally threw away the magazine a few months ago so I read it recently.

Here's R&T's test from 1983. And FYI, they were always slower than C&D back in the day:. Also, to my point above about perspective, check out their reaction to the acceleration, and how it compares to sport sedans of the day.

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/f ... abbit-gti/
And what performance would we be buying? How about 10.6 seconds for 0-60 mph? Or a quarter-mile time of 17.7 seconds at 76.0 mph? For a 2200-lb car with a
1.8-liter engine, this is performance that gives grown men and women toothy smiles and enormous grins. The last Rabbit we tested ("Four Front-Wheel- Drive
Sedans," February 1981) was the quickest car in that comparison test with a 0-60 mph time of 12.6 seconds and a quarter-mile run of 18.7 seconds at 71.0
mph (the other three cars were a Ford Escort, Honda Accord, and Mazda GLC). At 10.6 seconds for 0-60, the Rabbit GTI will put a lot of more expensive cars
to shame—such as the Audi Coupe (11.2) or the BMW 320i (11.1), as well as running a very close second to a Saab 900 Turbo (10.0).
:wap: Where are these mangos?

User avatar
troyguitar
Chief Master Sirloin
Chief Master Sirloin
Posts: 14701
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 12:15 am
Drives: Hot Rod Lincoln
Location: Hoth

Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:56 pm

Actually dangerous? Maybe 20+ seconds.

Too slow for me to buy? More like 8+ seconds, ideally I'd get something in the 5.x bracket.

User avatar
max225
Command Chief Master Sirloin
Command Chief Master Sirloin
Posts: 24056
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 1:49 am
Drives: JCW Clowncar

Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:11 pm

wap wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:41 pm
dubshow wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:09 pm
ok, so at first I was at 15 second is :nope: :gtfo:

Then I look back at the first "new" car I deemed to slow to be safe.

The Ford Fiesta in 2014. 5 speed :manuel:

I pulled out safely in front of traffic. Tons of room on a 60 mph highway... It was a dog... Also had 3 people in it which added to the experience Id say.

So the published 0-60 from MT is 9.5 seconds. i'll say it was easily over 10 seconds in that scenario. I am changing my answer.

For a bench mark. The 1983/84 GTI was 8.3 seconds on 1983 tires...
:wrong:
As I stated above, C&D had it at 9.7. I couldn't find their road test archived but I just finally threw away the magazine a few months ago so I read it recently.

Here's R&T's test from 1983. And FYI, they were always slower than C&D back in the day:. Also, to my point above about perspective, check out their reaction to the acceleration, and how it compares to sport sedans of the day.

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/f ... abbit-gti/
And what performance would we be buying? How about 10.6 seconds for 0-60 mph? Or a quarter-mile time of 17.7 seconds at 76.0 mph? For a 2200-lb car with a
1.8-liter engine, this is performance that gives grown men and women toothy smiles and enormous grins. The last Rabbit we tested ("Four Front-Wheel- Drive
Sedans," February 1981) was the quickest car in that comparison test with a 0-60 mph time of 12.6 seconds and a quarter-mile run of 18.7 seconds at 71.0
mph (the other three cars were a Ford Escort, Honda Accord, and Mazda GLC). At 10.6 seconds for 0-60, the Rabbit GTI will put a lot of more expensive cars
to shame—such as the Audi Coupe (11.2) or the BMW 320i (11.1), as well as running a very close second to a Saab 900 Turbo (10.0).
How did people live back then. :hubba: How did they survive...

User avatar
D Griff
Chief Master Sirloin
Chief Master Sirloin
Posts: 12241
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:49 am
Drives: AARPurple Brub Tub

Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:23 pm

I don’t really want anything over 8 seconds to 60, but that doesn’t make those cars dangerously slow... just less fun. I am also a privileged wealthy white male and can afford to waste money on non slow cars, they’re very much a luxury item.

User avatar
wap
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Chief Master Sirloin of the Wasteful Steak
Posts: 33300
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 12:52 am
Drives: Mk6Veyron
Location: Pepperland

Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:50 pm

max225 wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:11 pm
wap wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:41 pm


:wrong:
As I stated above, C&D had it at 9.7. I couldn't find their road test archived but I just finally threw away the magazine a few months ago so I read it recently.

Here's R&T's test from 1983. And FYI, they were always slower than C&D back in the day:. Also, to my point above about perspective, check out their reaction to the acceleration, and how it compares to sport sedans of the day.

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/f ... abbit-gti/

How did people live back then. :hubba: How did they survive...
They didn't. It was daily mass carnage on the nation's highways. Rivers of blood and everything.
:wap: Where are these mangos?

Post Reply
  • Information
  • Who is online

    Users browsing this forum: max225 and 0 guests