Soviet EV and taco chronicles + future ponderings about Fendie

[D Griff]

There is a lot of backlash happening here currently with out new electricity costs. It now makes a Hybrid such a Prius more cost effective than say a Tesla model 3... Bonkers. And there is possibility of another rate hike in march...

I wonder what that will do to America's #1 EV market... if the car costs more up front to purchase + fuel + it takes a lot of inconvenience if you don't have at home charging... I think shit will really hit the fan soon here.

Seems kinda like you’re damned if you do, damned if you don’t… what with gas also being $5 and outside of maybe SF and Oakland, all of CA is super car dependent, no?

As noted I’m very anti car dependency BUT it feels kind of unfair to make cars inaccessible before really pushing out any other options for getting around (transit, cycling infrastructure, walkable neighborhoods, etc). I did notice West LA had much more bicycle friendly roads when I was there a few weeks ago compared to 5+ years ago when I was going a lot.

[max225]

There is a lot of backlash happening here currently with out new electricity costs. It now makes a Hybrid such a Prius more cost effective than say a Tesla model 3... Bonkers. And there is possibility of another rate hike in march...

I wonder what that will do to America's #1 EV market... if the car costs more up front to purchase + fuel + it takes a lot of inconvenience if you don't have at home charging... I think shit will really hit the fan soon here.

Seems kinda like you’re damned if you do, damned if you don’t… what with gas also being $5 and outside of maybe SF and Oakland, all of CA is super car dependent, no?

As noted I’m very anti car dependency BUT it feels kind of unfair to make cars inaccessible before really pushing out any other options for getting around (transit, cycling infrastructure, walkable neighborhoods, etc). I did notice West LA had much more bicycle friendly roads when I was there a few weeks ago compared to 5+ years ago when I was going a lot.

It sucks because we pay a mystery tax of $2 per gallon which I’m assuming is added by the overlords to make everyone switch to electric … but now that a lot of people did … they literally increased costs 100% since 2021. And are going to increase them even more in the near future …. Now people who paid a premium for evs in 21 and 22 are completely fucked. This is state level robbery.

This entire country is not walk friendly outside of maybe 3-4 cities. 98% of the population is car dependent.

We know the government is completely unable to run anything. The “jewel” of public transit in this country aka New York subway. Is an absolute crime ridden cesspool, 120f in the summer … filled with loonies and also running an epic deficit every year requiring bail outs. As fares only cover 30% of the budget.

[D Griff]

Seems kinda like you’re damned if you do, damned if you don’t… what with gas also being $5 and outside of maybe SF and Oakland, all of CA is super car dependent, no?

As noted I’m very anti car dependency BUT it feels kind of unfair to make cars inaccessible before really pushing out any other options for getting around (transit, cycling infrastructure, walkable neighborhoods, etc). I did notice West LA had much more bicycle friendly roads when I was there a few weeks ago compared to 5+ years ago when I was going a lot.

It sucks because we pay a mystery tax of $2 per gallon which I’m assuming is added by the overlords to make everyone switch to electric … but now that a lot of people did … they literally increased costs 100% since 2021. And are going to increase them even more in the near future …. Now people who paid a premium for evs in 21 and 22 are completely fucked. This is state level robbery.

This entire country is not walk friendly outside of maybe 3-4 cities. 98% of the population is car dependent.

We know the government is completely unable to run anything. The “jewel” of public transit in this country aka New York subway. Is an absolute crime ridden cesspool, 120f in the summer … filled with loonies and also running an epic deficit every year requiring bail outs. As fares only cover 30% of the budget.

Agreed on the bolded but that doesn't make it right. Just seems like it should be more of a focus than forcing everyone into EVs which really don't solve anything for most people due to costs, charging infrastructure, etc. I mean Californians and most Americans who bought EVs faced likely the highest vehicle ownershit costs of anyone as their vehicles depreciated like absolute rocks; making charging as much/more than gas just adds insult to injury. I wonder if they 'had to' do it because of the large EV adoption in CA adding additional strain to an already fragile grid? I don't really know enough to say.

I have used the subway in NYC quite extensively and find that it really does work quite well. Sure, you run into some homeless, but I also have them walking up to my car for money anywhere I drive. Driving in major cities isn't exactly the enjoyable task it was years ago.

IMO these are all just symptons of the massive post WWII 'suburban experiment' that doesn't really work. I'm not anti-car by any means, I love driving (in the right conditions), road trips, the freedom/exploration piece, but the fact is cars are very resource intensive.

[max225]

It sucks because we pay a mystery tax of $2 per gallon which I’m assuming is added by the overlords to make everyone switch to electric … but now that a lot of people did … they literally increased costs 100% since 2021. And are going to increase them even more in the near future …. Now people who paid a premium for evs in 21 and 22 are completely fucked. This is state level robbery.

This entire country is not walk friendly outside of maybe 3-4 cities. 98% of the population is car dependent.

We know the government is completely unable to run anything. The “jewel” of public transit in this country aka New York subway. Is an absolute crime ridden cesspool, 120f in the summer … filled with loonies and also running an epic deficit every year requiring bail outs. As fares only cover 30% of the budget.

Agreed on the bolded but that doesn't make it right. Just seems like it should be more of a focus than forcing everyone into EVs which really don't solve anything for most people due to costs, charging infrastructure, etc. I mean Californians and most Americans who bought EVs faced likely the highest vehicle ownershit costs of anyone as their vehicles depreciated like absolute rocks; making charging as much/more than gas just adds insult to injury. I wonder if they 'had to' do it because of the large EV adoption in CA adding additional strain to an already fragile grid? I don't really know enough to say.

I have used the subway in NYC quite extensively and find that it really does work quite well. Sure, you run into some homeless, but I also have them walking up to my car for money anywhere I drive. Driving in major cities isn't exactly the enjoyable task it was years ago.

IMO these are all just symptons of the massive post WWII 'suburban experiment' that doesn't really work. I'm not anti-car by any means, I love driving (in the right conditions), road trips, the freedom/exploration piece, but the fact is cars are very resource intensive.

I kinda liked the subway but I also hate it. Multiple times Ended up at weird “dead stops” that required me to get out and pay again around Manhattan. Also post covid things got bad… 7/10 rides had some crazy shit go on… dude punching electrical boxes …. Bums covered in feces and piss clearing out entire cars of people ….
Violent random outbursts … aggressive begging … and that’s in just 3 days there.
It’s just bad … it felt like something bad was about to happen at all times and had to keep the head on a swivel. It was pretty ok 2012-2019 in the multiple times I have gone.

Life is resource intensive. It is what it is … i too would prefer to walk etc but cars keep me from being in the middle of a cesspool. I think this country is rapidly deteriorating across all social sectors into something terrible. So we’re all fleeing for the hills …

[wap]

I drove CAREFULLY home with each of these loads, lol. Super smooth, light touch on gas and brake. Crossing RR tracks was a bit

Haha that egg putting in work

At the refinery I once took an entire pallet of water bottles from our warehouse to the job site in my F150. I drove like 5 MPH. I think it was about 2,500 lbs in the bed. Almost 1,000 lbs over the payload capacity.

[D Griff]

Fucking server errors...

[max225]

Fucking server errors...

[D Griff]

Fucking server errors...

Was going to say that I haven't really used the subway much recently, used it a ton from 2014-2018 when my office was in Manhattan and it was pretty good. I used it a couple of times last year while in NY for work but pretty minimal. Actually had a good transit experience in SLC recently, their light rail actually serves the airport very well.

I think sometimes a smaller city would be the answer, better walkability and house prices in neighborhoods that are actually neighborhoods and not suburban hellscapes are more attainable. We've talked a good bit about Greenville, SC which offers a great downtown with houses in it that aren't terrible and it's close to the mountains.

I am actually in Covington, KY at the moment and it is pretty sweet as well. Just across the river from downtown Cincinnati but also has a vibrant downtown with a bunch of stuff.

[Johnny_P]

Was going to say that I haven't really used the subway much recently, used it a ton from 2014-2018 when my office was in Manhattan and it was pretty good. I used it a couple of times last year while in NY for work but pretty minimal. Actually had a good transit experience in SLC recently, their light rail actually serves the airport very well.

I think sometimes a smaller city would be the answer, better walkability and house prices in neighborhoods that are actually neighborhoods and not suburban hellscapes are more attainable. We've talked a good bit about Greenville, SC which offers a great downtown with houses in it that aren't terrible and it's close to the mountains.

I am actually in Covington, KY at the moment and it is pretty sweet as well. Just across the river from downtown Cincinnati but also has a vibrant downtown with a bunch of stuff.

Greenville was cool. I'd live there.

[CaleDeRoo]

We should do a weekend in Greenville. Driving around and enjoying the city.

[max225]

Been doing some redfinning for that area. Are prop taxes over 2%? Those things add up quick…

[CaleDeRoo]

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/603- ... e=txtshare

Peep the driveway

[max225]

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/603- ... e=txtshare

Peep the driveway

Home sweet home! That house to car ratio is mind boggling

[J-Ho-Fo-Show69]

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/603- ... e=txtshare

Peep the driveway

Home sweet home! That house to car ratio is mind boggling

The super 73 just chillin in the living room!

[D Griff]

Home sweet home! That house to car ratio is mind boggling

The super 73 just chillin in the living room!

I love how you’re just an e-bike aficionado now. I don’t think I’m feeling the 73. But it does add like another $4k or so to the vehicle tab of these owners.

[J-Ho-Fo-Show69]

The super 73 just chillin in the living room!

I love how you’re just an e-bike aficionado now. I don’t think I’m feeling the 73. But it does add like another $4k or so to the vehicle tab of these owners.

I don’t know about an aficionado…. I also have mixed feelings about the 73. Would I buy one? No. Would I ride it if given to me? Yes

[J-Ho-Fo-Show69]

The super 73 just chillin in the living room!

I love how you’re just an e-bike aficionado now. I don’t think I’m feeling the 73. But it does add like another $4k or so to the vehicle tab of these owners.

Also just noticed the golf cart!!!

[Desertbreh]

More garage free Carolina living.

[D Griff]

More garage free Carolina living.

I'm telling you, almost anything built between 1920 and 1980 just doesn't have a garage The 1920 and earlier homes are dope and have carriage houses but are like $2 million, the 1980-today homes are either in depressing hellscapes or are also like $900K+.

Jeremy's house has a garage built in the back yard which is a rare find but kind of the ideal thing. I'd consider doing the same but would have to wreck all of my mature trees to do it which would kind of ruin the back yard which is the best part of the place, so we'll just keep saving for the $2 million house I guess.

[J-Ho-Fo-Show69]

More garage free Carolina living.

I'm telling you, almost anything built between 1920 and 1980 just doesn't have a garage The 1920 and earlier homes are dope and have carriage houses but are like $2 million, the 1980-today homes are either in depressing hellscapes or are also like $900K+.

Jeremy's house has a garage built in the back yard which is a rare find but kind of the ideal thing. I'd consider doing the same but would have to wreck all of my mature trees to do it which would kind of ruin the back yard which is the best part of the place, so we'll just keep saving for the $2 million house I guess.

I’ll sell ya mine for a $1M!

[D Griff]

I'm telling you, almost anything built between 1920 and 1980 just doesn't have a garage The 1920 and earlier homes are dope and have carriage houses but are like $2 million, the 1980-today homes are either in depressing hellscapes or are also like $900K+.

Jeremy's house has a garage built in the back yard which is a rare find but kind of the ideal thing. I'd consider doing the same but would have to wreck all of my mature trees to do it which would kind of ruin the back yard which is the best part of the place, so we'll just keep saving for the $2 million house I guess.

I’ll sell ya mine for a $1M!

Nah dog.

[J-Ho-Fo-Show69]

I’ll sell ya mine for a $1M!

Nah dog.

Price just went up to $1.2m. Your loss

[J-Ho-Fo-Show69]

I’ll sell ya mine for a $1M!

Nah dog.

Price just went up to $1.2m. Your loss

[max225]

More garage free Carolina living.

I'm telling you, almost anything built between 1920 and 1980 just doesn't have a garage The 1920 and earlier homes are dope and have carriage houses but are like $2 million, the 1980-today homes are either in depressing hellscapes or are also like $900K+.

Jeremy's house has a garage built in the back yard which is a rare find but kind of the ideal thing. I'd consider doing the same but would have to wreck all of my mature trees to do it which would kind of ruin the back yard which is the best part of the place, so we'll just keep saving for the $2 million house I guess.

2 million house is insanity. Unless you’re pulling 1 million a year gross

[J-Ho-Fo-Show69]

I'm telling you, almost anything built between 1920 and 1980 just doesn't have a garage The 1920 and earlier homes are dope and have carriage houses but are like $2 million, the 1980-today homes are either in depressing hellscapes or are also like $900K+.

Jeremy's house has a garage built in the back yard which is a rare find but kind of the ideal thing. I'd consider doing the same but would have to wreck all of my mature trees to do it which would kind of ruin the back yard which is the best part of the place, so we'll just keep saving for the $2 million house I guess.

2 million house is insanity. Unless you’re pulling 1 million a year gross

Alot of those couples are!!