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The sonos stuff seems nice, but sweet jesus is it expensive?!

I looked into their amps for this whole home audio solution. $650 each is insane.

Although I may get the Arc for the soundbar for the living room? It's $750, but that's more reasonable for what you get at least.
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:43 am *looks at 5.1 + sub with exposed wires in living room*

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I've got the wires pretty well hidden behind a chair/radiators and under a couch so :whocares:
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I have Yamaha MusicCast products, which is a competitor to Sonos. My company is a distributor for Sonos and they are a bunch of fuckfaces, so I hate them, but the products are good (Yamaha is equivalent). One cool thing with Yamaha is that in addition to speakers and sound bars, they have receivers and amps and stuff so you have a little bit more flexibility in zones. I used an amp to power my outdoor speakers for example, or you could tie in a 5.1 system.
I wish Yamaha had those products out when I started buying Sonos. At the time, it was either Sonos or shitty glitchy Google cast speakers.

I'm pretty pleased with the Sonos products :doe: Our home theater sounds fantastic and people comment constantly on how good the speakers sound all over the house. The tech is fantastic, but not at all surprised that they're fuckfaces.
I'm checking them out right meow.
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Desertbreh wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:13 pm
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I wish Yamaha had those products out when I started buying Sonos. At the time, it was either Sonos or shitty glitchy Google cast speakers.

I'm pretty pleased with the Sonos products :doe: Our home theater sounds fantastic and people comment constantly on how good the speakers sound all over the house. The tech is fantastic, but not at all surprised that they're fuckfaces.
I'm checking them out right meow.
Hit me up if you have questions about it, I have a receiver, two of the small speakers, and a soundbar/sub for four zones. I really like it.
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MrH42 wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:09 am The sonos stuff seems nice, but sweet jesus is it expensive?!

I looked into their amps for this whole home audio solution. $650 each is insane.

Although I may get the Arc for the soundbar for the living room? It's $750, but that's more reasonable for what you get at least.
Yeah :iono: if it's really worth all that. The amps are really more for someone already invested in the speakers who just wants to add a zone or two with other/architectural speakers, IMO. It's not really all that compelling to go out and purchase 5-10 of them. No matter how you slice it though, anything nice for whole home audio gets pretty expensive, especially with a large home.
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D Griff wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:33 pm
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I'm checking them out right meow.
Hit me up if you have questions about it, I have a receiver, two of the small speakers, and a soundbar/sub for four zones. I really like it.
So what are the model numbers of your setup?
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MrH42 wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:09 am The sonos stuff seems nice, but sweet jesus is it expensive?!

I looked into their amps for this whole home audio solution. $650 each is insane.

Although I may get the Arc for the soundbar for the living room? It's $750, but that's more reasonable for what you get at least.
Arc plus sub is incredibly good sounding. Combined with 2 One's as surrounds, it's a legit sounding theater setup and pretty stealth looking overall.

Unfortunately, that's pushing $2k. It's silly expensive, but I can't say I regret it.
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Desertbreh wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:56 pm
D Griff wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:33 pm

Hit me up if you have questions about it, I have a receiver, two of the small speakers, and a soundbar/sub for four zones. I really like it.
So what are the model numbers of your setup?
(2) YA-WX-021-WH (we use these individually for our kitchen and bedroom but they can also be surrounds with the sound bar if 5.1 is desired)
(1) YA-R-N303-BL (I use this to power/feed my outdoor speakers)
(1) YA-YAS-408-BL (living room music/TV)

There are loads of other devices though, like a quad streaming amp for four stereo zones, 5.1 and 7.1 receivers, etc. I'm not really a big movie person, so the sound bar + sub is adequate for my TV needs. I'm sure adding the surrounds would be :nice: :doe: (or a true 5.1 or 7.1 setup).
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D Griff wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 3:33 pm
Desertbreh wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:56 pm

So what are the model numbers of your setup?
(2) YA-WX-021-WH (we use these individually for our kitchen and bedroom but they can also be surrounds with the sound bar if 5.1 is desired)
(1) YA-R-N303-BL (I use this to power/feed my outdoor speakers)
(1) YA-YAS-408-BL (living room music/TV)

There are loads of other devices though, like a quad streaming amp for four stereo zones, 5.1 and 7.1 receivers, etc. I'm not really a big movie person, so the sound bar + sub is adequate for my TV needs. I'm sure adding the surrounds would be :nice: :doe: (or a true 5.1 or 7.1 setup).
Thanks I'll check er out.
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D Griff wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 3:33 pm
Desertbreh wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:56 pm

So what are the model numbers of your setup?
(2) YA-WX-021-WH (we use these individually for our kitchen and bedroom but they can also be surrounds with the sound bar if 5.1 is desired)
(1) YA-R-N303-BL (I use this to power/feed my outdoor speakers)
(1) YA-YAS-408-BL (living room music/TV)

There are loads of other devices though, like a quad streaming amp for four stereo zones, 5.1 and 7.1 receivers, etc. I'm not really a big movie person, so the sound bar + sub is adequate for my TV needs. I'm sure adding the surrounds would be :nice: :doe: (or a true 5.1 or 7.1 setup).
I didn't have the rear surround speakers placed behind me until I moved here, I had them as extra front channels up in NY, and you don't notice how much you need them until you switch the receiver to 2.1 mode. So you aren't missing anything until you try it in your own house.
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My house just short appraised by $23k :(

All my :plac: dreams are dead :thisisfine:
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MrH42 wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:29 am My house just short appraised by $23k :(

All my :plac: dreams are dead :thisisfine:
Tell them to pony up the cash.
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In their offer, they agreed to cover $3500 of appraisal gap. I don't think they can afford to pay more. That's the problem, lots of buyers in this price point don't have enough cash to cover.

They have a problem though: their old house is pending. I already closed on my new one. I can float two mortgages and relist if I want. They have no where to go if this falls through, so I'm going to try and squeeze them as much as I can. They can take out a short term loan on the equity from their other house.
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MrH42 wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:42 am In their offer, they agreed to cover $3500 of appraisal gap. I don't think they can afford to pay more. That's the problem, lots of buyers in this price point don't have enough cash to cover.

They have a problem though: their old house is pending. I already closed on my new one. I can float two mortgages and relist if I want. They have no where to go if this falls through, so I'm going to try and squeeze them as much as I can. They can take out a short term loan on the equity from their other house.
Wow the financial inaptitude of the average person never seizes to amaze me. At that point if your “dream house” is depending on this. Why not cover their short fall. Seems like a way better option than anything else
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Buying a house for more than appraisal is :yikes:
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MrH42 wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:42 am In their offer, they agreed to cover $3500 of appraisal gap. I don't think they can afford to pay more. That's the problem, lots of buyers in this price point don't have enough cash to cover.

They have a problem though: their old house is pending. I already closed on my new one. I can float two mortgages and relist if I want. They have no where to go if this falls through, so I'm going to try and squeeze them as much as I can. They can take out a short term loan on the equity from their other house.
Wow the financial inaptitude of the average person never seizes to amaze me. At that point if your “dream house” is depending on this. Why not cover their short fall. Seems like a way better option than anything else
Wait, what? Why should I cover their shortfall? I already bought my next house. I can float two mortgages or rent this house out or relist. They're the ones in a jam. Typically the seller reduces price to match the appraisal, because buyers don't have the cash to cover the difference, but I don't see why I should in this case. They have a lot more to lose by this deal falling through than me.
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MrH42 wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:01 pm
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Wow the financial inaptitude of the average person never seizes to amaze me. At that point if your “dream house” is depending on this. Why not cover their short fall. Seems like a way better option than anything else
Wait, what? Why should I cover their shortfall? I already bought my next house. I can float two mortgages or rent this house out or relist. They're the ones in a jam. Typically the seller reduces price to match the appraisal, because buyers don't have the cash to cover the difference, but I don't see why I should in this case. They have a lot more to lose by this deal falling through than me.
You mentioned all my :plac: dreams are dead. I figured it may make more sense to sell the house for whatever the delta is between what they can afford/appraisal so 23k-3500 extra.. The holding cost of the house may be a bit... and you'd have to find a new buyer? Or do you have a backup offer?
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MrH42 wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:01 pm
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Wow the financial inaptitude of the average person never seizes to amaze me. At that point if your “dream house” is depending on this. Why not cover their short fall. Seems like a way better option than anything else
Wait, what? Why should I cover their shortfall? I already bought my next house. I can float two mortgages or rent this house out or relist. They're the ones in a jam. Typically the seller reduces price to match the appraisal, because buyers don't have the cash to cover the difference, but I don't see why I should in this case. They have a lot more to lose by this deal falling through than me.
Because the appraisal is independent. You'll keep running into this issue unless someone really stupid comes along and is willing to cover a ~$20k shortfall with cash. That's highly unlikely.

Since you can afford it, renting it might be a smart option for a while.
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max225 wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:56 pm
MrH42 wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:01 pm

Wait, what? Why should I cover their shortfall? I already bought my next house. I can float two mortgages or rent this house out or relist. They're the ones in a jam. Typically the seller reduces price to match the appraisal, because buyers don't have the cash to cover the difference, but I don't see why I should in this case. They have a lot more to lose by this deal falling through than me.
You mentioned all my :plac: dreams are dead. I figured it may make more sense to sell the house for whatever the delta is between what they can afford/appraisal so 23k-3500 extra.. The holding cost of the house may be a bit... and you'd have to find a new buyer? Or do you have a backup offer?
I got 4 offers the first day. I could cancel this contract, and then relist and go back to these other buyers, explain the shortfall and see what appraisal gap coverage they would be willing to do.

It's not the end of the world by any means. Just sucks when you think you have an extra $20k in hand and it falls through. Holding cost on the house is no where near $20k.
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Detroit wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:56 pm
MrH42 wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:01 pm

Wait, what? Why should I cover their shortfall? I already bought my next house. I can float two mortgages or rent this house out or relist. They're the ones in a jam. Typically the seller reduces price to match the appraisal, because buyers don't have the cash to cover the difference, but I don't see why I should in this case. They have a lot more to lose by this deal falling through than me.
Because the appraisal is independent. You'll keep running into this issue unless someone really stupid comes along and is willing to cover a ~$20k shortfall with cash. That's highly unlikely.

Since you can afford it, renting it might be a smart option for a while.
Covering appraisal cap is a common thing right now with the market the way it is.

I doubt I'll end up relisting or renting, but I might as well threaten to. Nothing to lose here. If I can squeeze the buyers to cover it, or even half of it, that's a big win for me.
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:(

We challenged the appraisal. The lender didn't budge. There's still a $19,500 gap that I'll likely end up eating. Still pushing for them to cover some of it, but waiting to hear back.

In other news, looks like journalists are testing the new BRZ/86 now. Embargos end on 8/17, so I'm curious to see how they like it.
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Detroit wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:51 am Buying a house for more than appraisal is :yikes:
Right now it is the norm in almost all transactions. Source: both in-laws are realtors.
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Detroit wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:51 am Buying a house for more than appraisal is :yikes:
Right now it is the norm in almost all transactions. Source: both in-laws are realtors.
Weird. Ours magically appraised for the exact price of the contract, just like it did in KY both times and in PA.
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troyguitar wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:01 am
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Right now it is the norm in almost all transactions. Source: both in-laws are realtors.
Weird. Ours magically appraised for the exact price of the contract, just like it did in KY both times and in PA.
Usually the appraisal person will match the house value unless it’s completely fucktarded. They want to get paid also. It’s all a giant racket
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