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Johnny_P wrote: ↑Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:34 pm

D Griff wrote: ↑Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:27 pm

It's around $24,900 with destination plus $1100 in accessories, so $26,000-$5,000= $21,000 + TTL. I am thinking red or bloo.

I agree on the Bimmer, I'm sure it's much nicer which is why I'm considering it. I still really liked the engine. But... the only way to know for sure is flying to Fort Lauderdale.

$1100 in accessories is likely a first aid kit, roadside assistance kit, floor mats, and some other bs like trunk net or whatever. I hate that shit so much, literally just price padders. Subaru is notorious for this only they are more aggressive with LED interior lights and horseshit that isn't even listed on their website as legit accessories. "Popular package 1 and 2" etc.

The WRX I drove was more than your STI.
$1700 Performance Exhaust
$358 for compass and dimming mirror
Some other shit i am forgetting

max225 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:39 pm

Johnny_P wrote: ↑Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:34 pm

$1100 in accessories is likely a first aid kit, roadside assistance kit, floor mats, and some other bs like trunk net or whatever. I hate that shit so much, literally just price padders. Subaru is notorious for this only they are more aggressive with LED interior lights and horseshit that isn't even listed on their website as legit accessories. "Popular package 1 and 2" etc.

The WRX I drove was more than your STI.
$1700 Performance Exhaust
$358 for compass and dimming mirror
Some other shit i am forgetting

And that is literally money set on fire for shit that nobody cares about. Something that boils my blood with car dealerships.

Johnny_P wrote: ↑Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:41 pm

max225 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:39 pm
The WRX I drove was more than your STI.
$1700 Performance Exhaust
$358 for compass and dimming mirror
Some other shit i am forgetting

And that is literally money set on fire for shit that nobody cares about. Something that boils my blood with car dealerships.

Those 2 things in particular are pretty nice, especially if the mirror has a homelink transmitter and the performance exhaust sounds good. I miss having an auto-dimming mirror and am apparently one of the only left who uses a compass.

I agree that the compass is useful.

Not bad finalists, I enjoyed my Shitvic test drives. Plus it's been out for long enough that the majority of kinks have been worked out. 2019 even more so as noted from the article Dave posted up recently. Don't think the dealer can drop that low unless Honda is driving incentives to subsidize the deal. If so, then it's a no brainer.

Surprised about the GTI TBH, I don't think the MK7 is that similar to the six, but it's more fun driving a fresh new brand so i can appreciate the mindset.

I thought the car in Florida (wagon) is an e90? Quite different from the F30 IMO

Just what i thought on the si i may possibly doing the same as a next vehicle.

Detroit wrote: ↑Sat Sep 15, 2018 7:26 pm I thought the car in Florida (wagon) is an e90? Quite different from the F30 IMO

There were two 328i I posts, one a 2014 F30 with 15k miles, one a 2012 wagon with 80k miles.

The wagon is neat but an 80k mile, seven year old BMW isn't really a great DD choice, and personally I think the wagons are kind of fugly. Just posted because it's . Would be good from a depreciation standpoint I guess.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/283156331953 is the BMW I'm considering, but I'm pretty sure I'm going Shitvic.

Tarspin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 15, 2018 3:56 pm Not bad finalists, I enjoyed my Shitvic test drives. Plus it's been out for long enough that the majority of kinks have been worked out. 2019 even more so as noted from the article Dave posted up recently. Don't think the dealer can drop that low unless Honda is driving incentives to subsidize the deal. If so, then it's a no brainer.

Surprised about the GTI TBH, I don't think the MK7 is that similar to the six, but it's more fun driving a fresh new brand so i can appreciate the mindset.

Don't get me wrong, I really like GTIs, just would rather try a new experience and have something a little more unique.

D Griff wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 9:44 am

Detroit wrote: ↑Sat Sep 15, 2018 7:26 pm I thought the car in Florida (wagon) is an e90? Quite different from the F30 IMO

There were two 328i I posts, one a 2014 F30 with 15k miles, one a 2012 wagon with 80k miles.

The wagon is neat but an 80k mile, seven year old BMW isn't really a great DD choice, and personally I think the wagons are kind of fugly. Just posted because it's . Would be good from a depreciation standpoint I guess.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/283156331953 is the BMW I'm considering, but I'm pretty sure I'm going Shitvic.

Woa, that 328i is somewhat spec. Would go for that 5/7 times over the Shitvic, personally.

Detroit wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:29 am

D Griff wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 9:44 am

There were two 328i I posts, one a 2014 F30 with 15k miles, one a 2012 wagon with 80k miles.

The wagon is neat but an 80k mile, seven year old BMW isn't really a great DD choice, and personally I think the wagons are kind of fugly. Just posted because it's . Would be good from a depreciation standpoint I guess.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/283156331953 is the BMW I'm considering, but I'm pretty sure I'm going Shitvic.

Woa, that 328i is somewhat spec. Would go for that 5/7 times over the Shitvic, personally.

My only reservation with that bmw is first model year. I am the engine kinks were already worked out

max225 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:10 pm

Detroit wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:29 am
Woa, that 328i is somewhat spec. Would go for that 5/7 times over the Shitvic, personally.

My only reservation with that bmw is first model year. I am the engine kinks were already worked out

They were selling F30s in Germany for at least a year before it came here. I wouldn’t worry about it.

D Griff wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 9:48 am

Tarspin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 15, 2018 3:56 pm Not bad finalists, I enjoyed my Shitvic test drives. Plus it's been out for long enough that the majority of kinks have been worked out. 2019 even more so as noted from the article Dave posted up recently. Don't think the dealer can drop that low unless Honda is driving incentives to subsidize the deal. If so, then it's a no brainer.

Surprised about the GTI TBH, I don't think the MK7 is that similar to the six, but it's more fun driving a fresh new brand so i can appreciate the mindset.

Don't get me wrong, I really like GTIs, just would rather try a new experience and have something a little more unique.

I think the Civic will be 5/7 for you with the for weekend hoonage.

max225 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:10 pm

Detroit wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:29 am
Woa, that 328i is somewhat spec. Would go for that 5/7 times over the Shitvic, personally.

My only reservation with that bmw is first model year. I am the engine kinks were already worked out

They weren't. Timing chain issues on the early ones. The only possible issue on the Civic is the clutch seems weak from the factory with some stock ones slipping. But fuck it. My GTI clutch and flywheel shit the bed and VW covered it so IDK. Easier to fix than engine replacement.

D Griff wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 9:48 am

Tarspin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 15, 2018 3:56 pm Not bad finalists, I enjoyed my Shitvic test drives. Plus it's been out for long enough that the majority of kinks have been worked out. 2019 even more so as noted from the article Dave posted up recently. Don't think the dealer can drop that low unless Honda is driving incentives to subsidize the deal. If so, then it's a no brainer.

Surprised about the GTI TBH, I don't think the MK7 is that similar to the six, but it's more fun driving a fresh new brand so i can appreciate the mindset.

Don't get me wrong, I really like GTIs, just would rather try a new experience and have something a little more unique.

I can understand this. On paper they're rather similar but Jap cars drive differently than German ones. GTI motor is objectively better but the cars will feel very different and its up to you mang so get what you want!

I like the Civic a lot. I think they did a great job with this gen. Kind of wish the Si got a detuned R motor but hey it is what it is, and the 1.5T has proven to be a pretty robust motor that delivers nice power and epic mileage.

Apex wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:20 pm

D Griff wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 9:48 am

Don't get me wrong, I really like GTIs, just would rather try a new experience and have something a little more unique.

I think the Civic will be 5/7 for you with the for weekend hoonage.

Civic Si plus a vette is a really nice combo for sure

Johnny_P wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:41 pm

Apex wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:20 pm

I think the Civic will be 5/7 for you with the for weekend hoonage.

Civic Si plus a vette is a really nice combo for sure

All it’s missing is a




In all seriousness, it’s a very nice combo

D Griff wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 9:48 am

Tarspin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 15, 2018 3:56 pm Not bad finalists, I enjoyed my Shitvic test drives. Plus it's been out for long enough that the majority of kinks have been worked out. 2019 even more so as noted from the article Dave posted up recently. Don't think the dealer can drop that low unless Honda is driving incentives to subsidize the deal. If so, then it's a no brainer.

Surprised about the GTI TBH, I don't think the MK7 is that similar to the six, but it's more fun driving a fresh new brand so i can appreciate the mindset.

Don't get me wrong, I really like GTIs, just would rather try a new experience and have something a little more unique.

A new gen Honda on the forum would be cool and unique. I like the interior fit and finish, fuel economy figures and chasis (drove the base sedan with manual plus 2.0 and hatch with cvt coupled with the 1.5T). The base suspension on the sedan was a soft noodle but the sport suspension on the hatch kept the car really well planted even when i started hamming it into various radius turns at various speeds. The turbro+CVT was cool because the :tranny: kept the turbro sizzling and produced good 0-60s or so it felt. In both cases I left and almost bought into that platform as a DD. A SI sounds

Johnny_P wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:41 pm

Apex wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:20 pm

I think the Civic will be 5/7 for you with the for weekend hoonage.

Civic Si plus a vette is a really nice combo for sure

I like the Si as well, especially if you can get a smokin on one. have you done any research on bike transport? Kinda hilarious that the will likely be the bike car over a Civic.

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Dan, I'd have a hard time picking between the used F30 and the Civic. That F30 has the stuff you need, none of the stuff you don't and is priced right. BUT Scale tipper for me is that your are keeping the C5 so that's where all your car modzzz and fucking around will go. Keep the Civic bone stock and enjoy the SCREAMING DEAL. New Honda that handles well for 20K +TTL? Good combo for the future, set it and forget it. Hate the Honda? No ragrets you can sell it for what you bought it for!

Gberg2119 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:15 pm I like the Si as well, especially if you can get a smokin on one. have you done any research on bike transport? Kinda hilarious that the will likely be the bike car over a Civic.

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Roof rack. Or hitch and new muffler. Car is v quiet as is.

Desertbreh wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 6:47 pm Dan, I'd have a hard time picking between the used F30 and the Civic. That F30 has the stuff you need, none of the stuff you don't and is priced right. BUT Scale tipper for me is that your are keeping the C5 so that's where all your car modzzz and fucking around will go. Keep the Civic bone stock and enjoy the SCREAMING DEAL. New Honda that handles well for 20K +TTL? Good combo for the future, set it and forget it. Hate the Honda? No ragrets you can sell it for what you bought it for!

The civic will likely be easier to own and require less attention. Just oil changes. That would tip the scale for me. Add in it’s cheaper and IMO theres not much to discuss

Bmw basically only needs oil changes every 10k Miles, maybe a set of plugs, but that may be an M thing. I don’t think there is that much maintenance difference, it only has 17k miles on it

Johnny_P wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 7:23 pm

Desertbreh wrote: ↑Sun Sep 16, 2018 6:47 pm Dan, I'd have a hard time picking between the used F30 and the Civic. That F30 has the stuff you need, none of the stuff you don't and is priced right. BUT Scale tipper for me is that your are keeping the C5 so that's where all your car modzzz and fucking around will go. Keep the Civic bone stock and enjoy the SCREAMING DEAL. New Honda that handles well for 20K +TTL? Good combo for the future, set it and forget it. Hate the Honda? No ragrets you can sell it for what you bought it for!

The civic will likely be easier to own and require less attention. Just oil changes. That would tip the scale for me. Add in it’s cheaper and IMO theres not much to discuss

There is SOMETHING to discuss. He'll enjoy hopping in the F30 more than the Civic every single day. MSport F30s drive nicely, it is the right color, it is a , the interior is more superior than the Shitvic and bascially its a way nicer car, and a quicker one. It also looks like it was purchased by an adult. If he was selling the C5 I'd go for the bimmer. There is value in nice cars, you don't jizz all over every 911 in sight because they require less attention or are easy to own.

BUT his commute is long and he's keeping the anus shattering mullet barge. So rice.