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[max225]

So, civic sport not even si. That’s my vote but I’m you can go with an egg but premium + a fair bit more esspensive

I'll try to test drive both the Sport and Si. I imagine a Sport is pretty rare.

Sport hatch in base trim only comes as a manual pretty damn easy to find. Fuck the si it is hideous in sedan trim

[coogles]

Granted used could be a thing too. Do GTIs still depreciate a shit ton?

Initially, yup. Buy a $32,000 SE for $29k and 1 year / 15k miles later it'll be worth $22k. Then 5 years after that with 90k (15k/yr) on it it'll still be worth $12k. That's why I bought mine with a few miles on it and $9,500 off MSRP.

[Johnny_P]

This is really not a bad option, but I think if he wants more "fun" and is considering a FiST off the bat, the Civic Sport will likely fall short of what he wants? Never driven one so I have no dog in that fight.

Worth checking out though. I think the hatch is the best version of the Civic. 1.5T makes some power, 6MT can be upgraded with Si/R shifter tower for cheap to make it sublime, 87 octane donkey piss, heard there's rev hang so that kind of blows, very likely better resale, IMO it looks good.

Fun is what the vette is for. Civic sport handles great for a daily and the shifter and clutch are perfect why fuck with it?! Oh yea modddzzz bruh

Agreed mostly. When the Sport came out there were complaints of the shifter not feeling precise, and many people seemed to have success just swapping the plastic shift towers out for the stronger reinforced ones from the Si/R. OEM part

[Davestr]

So, civic sport not even si. That’s my vote but I’m you can go with an egg but premium + a fair bit more esspensive

Im with Max and da facts of dis above^^^^^^. H O N D A. All the way.

[D Griff]

E46 M3

I was really thinking of getting that track prepped Emola Red one. But things have changed now and I don't really want to commute long ways in that thing. I could still see picking one up as a track/fun car if I decide not to keep the Corvette, but I dunno, the 'vette will likely stay. I own it outright, it's reliable and fun. I think if I have another DD it has a lot of staying power.

[coogles]

with crotchfruit planning. He may see the path before him but plausible deniability is still an acceptable thing here.

Definitely no crotchfruit in the coming couple of years, and if we have in like 2022 (which is possible, maybe even likely) I'll deal with that then. I'm not going to let that determine what I buy now. I bet those rear facing monstrosities don't fit in any of these cars, hopefully a used SS will be somewhat cheap by then.

Rear facing fits great in my Mexi-egg.

[troyguitar]

Check into the turbro Honda clutches if you're considering one. Last I heard people were experiencing a decent amount of failures on stock cars.

[Johnny_P]

Granted used could be a thing too. Do GTIs still depreciate a shit ton?

Initially, yup. Buy a $32,000 SE for $29k and 1 year / 15k miles later it'll be worth $22k. Then 5 years after that with 90k (15k/yr) on it it'll still be worth $12k. That's why I bought mine with a few miles on it and $9,500 off MSRP.

My MK6 had 60k on it and I got $8500 for it so

They depreciate hard. Buy a used Sport like Coogles did. It's the best spec, and someone else took the rape for the first year depreciation.

[Davestr]

Also congratulations on the job. Nice adulting. Bangbus is now in the Book of Lamentations. Sad!

+2 forgot to send congrats on the new job. Change can be good and I do hope you hit all the targets you set!!!

[Johnny_P]

Check into the turbro Honda clutches if you're considering one. Last I heard people were experiencing a decent amount of failures on stock cars.

On Si's especially. Tune it and it's just like a GTI. But even stock they've been getting

Hard to tell how much of that is from dopey first MT car drivers.

[D Griff]

I'll try to test drive both the Sport and Si. I imagine a Sport is pretty rare.

Sport hatch in base trim only comes as a manual pretty damn easy to find. Fuck the si it is hideous in sedan trim

Yeah, I just looked on the Honderp site... it does seem like a better way to go, $5k less, more usable as a hatch, looks better, same color options, smaller wheels which is kind of nice. The only thing I think I would miss is the LSD, but I can live without it to get to work and back.

I still kind of want something a little more fun, but I'll definitely check it out.

[Johnny_P]

Sport hatch in base trim only comes as a manual pretty damn easy to find. Fuck the si it is hideous in sedan trim

Yeah, I just looked on the Honderp site... it does seem like a better way to go, $5k less, more usable as a hatch, looks better, same color options, smaller wheels which is kind of nice. The only thing I think I would miss is the LSD, but I can live without it to get to work and back.

I still kind of want something a little more fun, but I'll definitely check it out.

The hatches are all over the place down here. And I think they look good. Even with the black bumper warts.
Si sedan is the worst looking of the entire Civic lineup. Which is annoying because the coupe looks good. It's all in that rear bumper.

[troyguitar]

Too bad the civic hatch doesn't come in green.

[coogles]

Initially, yup. Buy a $32,000 SE for $29k and 1 year / 15k miles later it'll be worth $22k. Then 5 years after that with 90k (15k/yr) on it it'll still be worth $12k. That's why I bought mine with a few miles on it and $9,500 off MSRP.

My MK6 had 60k on it and I got $8500 for it so

They depreciate hard. Buy a used Sport like Coogles did. It's the best spec, and someone else took the rape for the first year depreciation.

Bend over, baby. I got $11.5k for mine with something like 57k on it. sold it for $14k.

Check out prices on ~6 year old MK6s right now. 2012s are still easily $10k+ even with high miles on them, lower mile cars are $12k-$14k, and the MK7 SEs cost more to begin with. 2012 Sis seem to be going for similar money, so while you spend a little more on the GTI new versus the Si, after 6 years they'll be worth similar. And GTIs generally can be had so discounted that the actual purchase price isn't that far off.

Obviously still best to go gently used, but GTI values don't seem to tank long-term any more than comparable cars, save maybe the pricing on WRX hatches.

[Johnny_P]

My MK6 had 60k on it and I got $8500 for it so

They depreciate hard. Buy a used Sport like Coogles did. It's the best spec, and someone else took the rape for the first year depreciation.

Bend over, baby. I got $11.5k for mine with something like 57k on it. sold it for $14k.

Check out prices on ~6 year old MK6s right now. 2012s are still easily $10k+ even with high miles on them, lower mile cars are $12k-$14k, and the MK7 SEs cost more to begin with. 2012 Sis seem to be going for similar money, so while you spend a little more on the GTI new versus the Si, after 6 years they'll be worth similar. And GTIs generally can be had so discounted that the actual purchase price isn't that far off.

Obviously still best to go gently used, but GTI values don't seem to tank long-term any more than comparable cars, save maybe the pricing on WRX hatches.

Story of my life, bruv. Everyone always gets a better deal than me. luck.

[Tar]

Definitely no crotchfruit in the coming couple of years, and if we have in like 2022 (which is possible, maybe even likely) I'll deal with that then. I'm not going to let that determine what I buy now. I bet those rear facing monstrosities don't fit in any of these cars, hopefully a used SS will be somewhat cheap by then.

Rear facing fits great in my Mexi-egg.

i put it behind the passenger side nfg

I'd definitely at least get a 4 door just because, plus it's more useful even if baby doesn't show up early due to a fest.

[Desertbreh]

Sadly now if you want the PP and LSD you have to get the broken sunroof. Literally. Many are ending up broken. So that's fun.

How do you even know this?

[max225]

Used golfs are super expensive for no reason I don’t know is going on

[Johnny_P]

Sadly now if you want the PP and LSD you have to get the broken sunroof. Literally. Many are ending up broken. So that's fun.

How do you even know this?

Mostly comments on vortex and the car lounge
https://www.google.com/search?q=mk7+gti ... e&ie=UTF-8

[Desertbreh]

E46 M3

That's a great idea. Perfect commuter.

[Desertbreh]

How do you even know this?

Mostly comments on vortex and the car lounge
https://www.google.com/search?q=mk7+gti ... e&ie=UTF-8

Let it go Luke.

[troyguitar]

Used golfs are super expensive for no reason I don’t know is going on

That's why I was kind of thinking A3 > but it's automatic+premium only so not great for this discussion.

[Johnny_P]

Used golfs are super expensive for no reason I don’t know is going on

I always buy and sell shit at the wrong times. GTI values were bad when I sold mine, likely due to dieselgate souring the brand? IDK. But $8500 was the highest offer I got across about 6 dealerships. Now they're stronger apparently.

When I bought my STI they were still very hard to deal on. Now you can get a deal rather easily on them. As such, WRX/STI used prices are dropping. Yay fun.

I should get a JL. What could possibly go wrong. I'll literally make money when I go to resell it.

[Johnny_P]

Used golfs are super expensive for no reason I don’t know is going on

That's why I was kind of thinking A3 > but it's automatic+premium only so not great for this discussion.

Could get an A4 CPO manuel for about the price of an R
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sal ... elCode1=A4

Go older/non-cpo and you can get a really nice A4 for around $20k. Might not be any fun tho. IDK never driven an A4.

[Gberg2119]

Apparently Si's are a steal to lease. Obviously check one of them out too.

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