Dat 4Runner Life Doe - Adventures in a T4R

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I had a tread about the 4Runner a while back before the DFD crashed and changed servers. With Photobucket restricting having their images embedded most of it would be dead anyway by now. So here we go, starting back over form the beginning.

2011 Toyota 4Runner Limited

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Powertrain:
- K&N drop in air filter
- Fujimoto oil drain valve
- X2 Power (Northstar rebranded for Batteries+) AGM battery
- Arc-Light voltage booster
-ARB rear diff breather


Interior:
- Weather Tech floor liners for first and second row
- Canvas Back cargo area liner
- Philips Vision LED lighting


Exterior/Protection:
- OEM ‘14+ tail lights
- Phillips Vision LED reverse, rear plate, and puddle lights
- Curt recovery point hitch insert
- RCI Metalworks aluminum engine, trans, t-case skids with crossmember brace
- RCI Metalworks 20° rock sliders
- Stock Limited rocker panels modified for RCI 20° sliders
- BF Goodrich All Terrain T/A K02 275/70/17 E
- Gray TRD Pro 17” wheels
- Baja Design Squadron Pro yellow driving/combo pattern with foglight pocket kit
- Rago Fabrication/Freedom Design 22” hidden bumper lightbar setup
- Blizzak DM-V1 snow tires on stock 20” wheels


Suspension:
- King OEM 2.5” front remote reservoir extended travel coilovers
- King OEM 2.5” rear remote reservoir custom length shocks
- JBA caster corrected upper control arms with Cerakote coated high articulation ball joints
- Toytec 2” machined rear bump stop spacers
-Icon 2” lift standard load rear springs


Miscellaneous:
-Rewired factory foglight switch for independent operation (highbeams, lowbeams, and foglights can all be on at the same time)
-Thule T2 XTR 916 & 918 bike carriers
-Debadged “Limited” emblems
-Oh Shit Kit
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Where it all began:
I've always been a car guy. I've never liked trucks, never wanted a truck, never had any interest in a truck. In fact, after buying the 4Runner a bunch of my friends gave me crap about it because I always said trucks were for hillbillies. Living in the Midwest (Chicago) that was totally true, everything was flat, the worst you came across was a dirt road if you drove hours to get to it and you may have to park in a field during an event of some kind. but people bought trucks and lifted them and gave them the off road look for nothing. I never once even considered a truck living there even despite have an outdoors active lifestyle (hiking, biking, triathlons, skiing, ect.) That mindset changed when I moved to Colorado. I had a modified 4 door MK6 Volkswagen GTI and first time it was no longer practical. From dirt and gravel washboard roads and driving over cattle grates in route to trail heads for mountain biking, to driving a lowered front wheel drive car up mountain passes in the snow with 300 ft/lbs of torque to go skiing, it just wasn't practical for my lifestyle in a mountain environment.

This thing hated rough unpaved roads.
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Fall through spring could be bike or ski season, this is all I could do to maximize space but it was always limited to 2 people plus gear.
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Heading up to go skiing it was common to plow snow with the front while hoping the snow tires keep biting. It didn’t take much to really bury the car.
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And stuff like this is no joke.
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So, I started looking for a replacement. My first thought was a Subaru would be perfect. I was all for it, until I actually drove one. I really wanted to like them but it was bad. It felt like I was sitting on a folding chair with a cushion surrounded by an interior designed and built by Fisher Price. They just felt so cheap and crappy, I couldn't do it. I was working at a car dealership so I'd regularly take used cars home for a night to spend some time driving them and seeing what I liked and didn’t like. After literally a year of casual researching, looking at, and driving everything from small hatch backs to pick up trucks I had a pretty specific list of what I wanted in a replacement for my GTI.

This was my list of firm requirements:
- Real truck/SUV (body on frame, no crossovers)
- 4-wheel disc brakes with ABS
- 4 doors
- 2" hitch receiver
- A center differential inside a low range transfer case (full time 4WD that you don't have to mechanically lock any part of the drivetrain, I did not want 2WD or locked 4WD)
- I had to be able to adjust the driver’s seat to where I want to sit and then be able to get out and fit comfortably in the seat behind that one (I'm 6'2")
- It had to fit me laying down in the back with the seats folded flat for sleeping in it
- Reliability and long-term durability
- One touch auto up and down on ALL of the windows
- Split folding rear seats
- The ability to comfortably fit 4 adults with all of our ski equipment inside the vehicle.

On 8/27/14 after a long time the winner was a used 2011 Toyota 4Runner Limited – 4.0L V6, full time 4WD, automatic, silver exterior, black interior, smart key, heated full power leather seats, navigation, voice recognition, bluetooth phone and streaming audio, one touch up and down windows, dual zone climate control, 2" hitch, 5,000 lb tow rating, 4 and 7 pin trailer wiring, steering wheel controls, sunroof, homelink garage door buttons, 20" alloy wheels, 15 speaker JBL system, running boards, heated mirrors, roof rack cross bars, auto dimming rear view mirror, 6 disc changer, Aux jack, USB hookup, iPod hookup, backup camera, 4 wheel disc, front and rear 12v and 120v power outlets, XREAS sport suspension, side curtain airbags, knee airbags, front airbags, side airbags, etc. It had 29,000 miles, 1 owner car, clean carfax, all the maintenance records, and they even had the original $43,000+ window sticker. It was mechanically perfect but with a lot of minor cosmetic flaws up close. That was perfect for me, the price was lower, the value was better, and not being a mint perfect condition truck, I wouldn't be so stupidly over anal about it like I have been with every other vehicle I've owned.


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First thing was the bike racks
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Much happier hauling bikes on dirt
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Out on small 2 lane middle of nowhere cliff side mountain roads where there is zero ambient light other than what you get from the moon you can never have enough light. Sometimes those roads aren't quite 2 lanes or paved.
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So, the first mod was finding a wiring diagram and figuring out what wires I needed to rewire the fog light to work independently of the high beams. Normally you can have low beams and fog lights or low beams and high beams. I wired in a relay to so anytime the ignition is on and the OEM fog light switch is turned on the lights work. Now I could run high beams, low beams, and fogs all at the same time. It’s a simple and practical, although technically illegal modification.

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Pretty quickly I started taking it out into the mountains.
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Fall colors faded to winter and ski season began. The Blizzak snow tires went on and I stated hunting powder days.

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It became obvious the slush catcher steps needed to go in the garbage and some mud flaps would help.

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That’s a bit better.
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My wife and I hit the slopes, a lot.
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Spring rolled around where conditions can vary considerably.
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Taking a trip up to Rocky Mountain National Park
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Mid 70’s shorts and t-shirt weather and you have to tun back on your hike because you didn’t bring snow shoes.
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Wheels and tires came next
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Hitting the trails with wifey
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There’s still snow to be found
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After banging my way through some stuff like this I decided it was time for skids
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That’s about the same time I put together the Oh Shit Kit. I don’t think the pictures are quite up to date but the kit contains the following Tow strap, jumper cables, roll of blue shop paper towels, utility gloves, 12V air compressor, small first aid kit, Mountain series medical kit -weekender, 200 alcohol prep pads, Wound Seal powder, 2 Heatsheets emergency blankets, an adventure pack of hand, body, and toe warmers, Instafire all weather fire starter fuel source, storm proof matches a rain Poncho, 6x8 medium duty tarp, Rescue Tape, Gorilla Tape, Gerber folding hand saw, automotive fuses, razor utility knife, pocket knife, tire plug kit, needle nose pliers, side cutters, multi bit screwdriver, channel locks, standard and metric allen keys, 24" pry bar, 51 piece socket/ratchet set, hammer, ratchet straps, flashlight, 12v plug in search/spot light, bungees, garbage bags, and zip lock bags.

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Easter at RMNP

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4th of July, we drove up the Kenosha pass to where the Colorado Trail crosses it. From there we took the mountain bikes from Kenosha pass up over tree line to the Georgia pass before coming back down.

Tearing through the Aspens
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The first preview of what’s to come
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We worked our way up through national forest
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The air was getting thin and so were the trees
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It was well into the 90's at home in Boulder but we were playing in the snow in the high country
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Above tree line
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Next up was Mount Evans, the highest paved road in North America and because of some construction it was closed to cars.

We loaded up the bikes and took the truck to Echo Lake where we started our ride.
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You could see treeline getting closer
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My wife grinding away
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Plenty of snow in July
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Summit Lake
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Still climbing
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Still climing
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Almost there
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14,130 feet above sea level. It was f'n COLD, windy, and we got snowed on.
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We were out of our element and into theirs
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We took the truck to town of Como at the base of Boreas Pass. We rode the Gold Dust trail up to where it ends near the top of the Boreas pass, we took the pass up tot Continental Divide overlooking Breckenridge before descending back down.

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That's the ski slope of Breckenridge
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For the 4Runner’s first birthday we took it out to play
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With fall coming I headed up to high country for a drive. The aspens had starting to change up there and the scenery is phenomenal. The trail was cool, it was narrow rugged off roading, I scratched the truck a little with some branches, banged up my skids a bit, banged up my mudflaps a lot, did a few small sections of rock crawling, a water crossing, even found a dead Ford. It was nice being out there where the cell phones don't work, I even got to see some old mining ruins.

At one point I came across some hikers, they said with the truck sitting on top of a mountain with nothing man made in view in any direction, their first thought was that they came across a 4Runner commercial lol

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Minor damage, it happens.
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Exploring mountain passes. I70 to Georgetown, Guanella Pass to Kenosha Pass to Boreas Pass to Breckenridge, Swan Mountain to Keystone, drove up the back side of North Peak at Keystone ski resort, then the Loveland Pass back to I70 and home.



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On a ski slope at Keystone
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I placed the following order from Rago Fabrication:
-Toyota Factory Square Switch with Bumper LED Bar emblem and text.
-2010-2013 5th Gen Toyota 4Runner Hidden Bumper Brackets.
-22" 5D Freedom LED Bar.
-Wiring harness.
-Relay Holder

I'd thought I'd share my thoughts and feedback on everything and show my process for a nice clean installation.

The buying process was quick and easy and they were very fast to confirm the order, ship it, and send tracking information. They were great to deal with. It arrived while I was out of town for work, I got home and only had a day until we had visitors arrive for the week. So all this stuff sat there staring me in the face while refusing to install itself for a quite a while until I finally made time and started on the install.

Summary: With all the hype surrounding Rago lately I had high expectations. I was really hoping for top quality at great prices but in reality, it’s a bit more on the side of you get what you pay for. Overall, I think they provide an acceptable product that is a reasonable value. The foundation is there but I feel they skimped out on some of the detail work. The bar and brackets are worth purchasing, it’s a pretty good buy when they offer a sale. The wiring harness is generic and made with a lot of cheap parts plus it requires a considerable amount of modification if you want anything that resembles a neat and clean installation. If you're electrically literate the harness is a waste of time and money, just make your own. If you don't have electrical experience this can be used as a bare minimum, sub-par, almost plug and play way to make the bar function. I’d give it some more credit if the connections were sealed from the elements since most of it lives in the engine bay. The relay holder is a complete and total waste of money as it doesn’t actually secure the relay. The integration between the bits and pieces that they sell together as a kit was a little lacking.

Everything unpacked and laid out.
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I'm not getting into a step by step on how the bumper so we're going to jump to the bracket and the bar installed. The bar itself feels pretty solid and well built for the price point and the light output was reasonable.
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The brackets were nicely made and the powder coating appeared to be high quality. There was a considerable amount of adjustment in every aspect of the fitment, which I personally am not a fan of, its vehicle specific, you shouldn't need to slide it all around to make them fit if it was designed correctly to begin with. This is the outer portion of the right side bracket installed.
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Inner portion of the right side bracket installed. The additional brackets are a nice touch, without them if you give the bar a gentle tap (simulated off-road bump, pothole, whatever) the light would bounce and it took a couple seconds for the light to top vibrating and stabilize. With the second bracket its nice and solid.
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This is the left side bracket (stabilizing bracket not installed at the time) and the start of how I did the wiring. I drilled a small hole in the air deflector and ran the wiring through it to keep it away from metal objects.
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From there I fixed the wiring to the flap below the headlight, again to keep it away from metal and things that could chafe on the harness.
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I wanted to be able to disassemble if need be so I didn't want to splice the LED bar harness straight to the wiring harness. I thought it was kind of cheap to have the light bar just come with stripped wire pigtails. Ordering the bar and the harness I fully expected a waterproof 2 pin connector to be able to just plug right in. I added waterproof connectors sealed to the wiring. I put a male and female on each side of the harness (as opposed to both the males on the bar and both the females on the harness for example) so even if you ignore the colors of the wiring it can't be hooked up backwards.
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In the engine bay I used the harness brackets already there for factory wiring and routed it right alongside it.
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The battery is loose and shifted over to gain some extra room to slide a hand down there to route the harness.
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The harness runs back to the relay mounted to the Rago relay holder (more on that in a minute)
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This is the extra length I cut out of the harness going to the light bar.
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Now, for the relay holder. Junk! If you watch their install video https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... mD1jX9eJpg you need to use a knife/pick/small object to release the relay from the mounting tab. The Rago relay holder has nothing to keep the relay in place. It slides on and off with no resistance. You’re buying an extra bracket to make it less secure. Not cool, that's quite the design oversite in my opinion. Plus, as you'll see in the next picture if you try to cleanly route the B+ wiring around the fuse box it will not reach the battery using their harness and their relay holder. Rago did offer to go against their return policy and let me send it back for a refund but at this point I already tossed out the tab that comes with the relay to actually mount it securely. I put a dab of black RTV on it before sliding the relay over it to keep it secured.
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I temporarily got it hooked up to verify function.
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Next, I modified the front plate a bit, I shape the front plate to match the contour of the bumper so it's not hanging down and blocking light output.
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To get a good starting point with aiming the light I measured all 4 corners to the face of the lower grill and adjusted it all completely square and level.
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Next up was the switch side wiring of the harness. I wanted to make as small of a hole as possible in the firewall grommet so I used one of my terminal tools and removed the connector, this way I can tape the wires up to a zip tie and pull a relatively small mass through the grommet.
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Stagger the wires a bit to keep the bulk down.
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Size comparison of the harness connector to my way.
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I poked the corner of razor blade into the harness boot and stretched the hole out with the harness to keep a nice tight seal.
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I ran this harness along the factory harness again to keep it clean looking.
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with that stuff in the cabin I put the terminals back into the connector so nothing would touch and went back under the hood. I wanted to get the under hood stuff finished because I was running low on time. So working on the power and ground setup the power wire was absolutely going to have to be extended for a clean install if you're running their harness and relay holder together so I started messing around with that. First thing I noticed is how bad the fuse holder it. I pulled the terminal because I needed to extend the wiring and I’d rather have room to work. This is how bad the fitment to the actual blade of the fuse is. I'm going to cut this thing out and use a proper one that has better contact and is actually sealed up for use in exterior applications. But for now, it went in as is.
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I extended the wiring using the excess that I cut out earlier and sealed it up.
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The fuse holder is just kind of sitting there since again, I'm going to cut it out and use something more appropriate to the application and it doesn't really have a way to be mounted besides double sided tape.
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I reused the shielding that I cut off the harness earlier for a little extra protection on the power wire and to help hide it and make it blend in. The power wire is zip tied to route along the negative cable heading towards the engine.
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I pulled the wiring right up along the positive cable and bolted it to the terminal.
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On the interior side of the harness (after removing power those wires). I ended up cutting off a large portion of the harness.
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I shortened, connected, and sealed 3 of the 4 wires.
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The 4th wire is the illumination wire, I was about out of time so I'll save that for another day. I wrapped it around the harness and tapped it up.
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All hooked up ready to go.
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The light bar logo still goes on and off with the light itself. Considering the interior backlighting is an orangish color I'm not a big fan of the blue.
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Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:28 pm

Baja Designs Sqaurdron Pro fog light pocket kit. BD is widely thought of as the top dog in the LED game, I may have made a mistake going with the Pro lights. Each pod is 4 LEDs and fits into the factory foglight housing location, and the output is absolutely insane. They are so crazy they aren't usable on the street. They are significantly brighter than high beams.

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Not my video, but a good video showing the ridiculous output of the Pros

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Looks great though :) Nice nature spots! Colorado really reminds me of the tahoe/yosemite area here.

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Suspension

I like the XREAS suspension, the dampeners were linked at opposite corners. LF to RR ad RF to LR. When one dampener is compressed it linked wheel gets pushed downward to try to equalize and level the vehicle. On road it was fantastic, it stayed sports car flat around corners on on/off ramps. Off road it was a bit rough and it fought articulation a bit but overall, I was a fan. I kept the factory stuff until I killed it. Too much time on unpaved washboard rutted up roads at speed did it in. The suspension got hot, really hot, the dampeners faded bad and it started to smell. From that point on the shocks leaked.

This was the day after
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So little man and I stopped by Filthy Motorsports in Boulder to do some shopping. They are widely regarded at the go to place for all things King, they are King’s highest volume dealer.
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We started the process of getting an order placed. They start with the base “OEM kit” and then factor in vehicle weight, intended use, tire size, ride height, spring rates, control arms, future plans to add weight like steel bumpers and a winch, etc, etc, etc. It was an awesome experience, very detailed, very thorough, or so it seemed…

- 3/8/18 I placed an order through Filthy Motorsports with a “4-6 week lead time”.
- 4/13/18 (4.5 weeks in) I’m told “another 3-4 weeks”.
- 5/9/18 (9 weeks in) I’m told “another 2 weeks”.
- 5/24/18 (11 weeks in) I’m told “a little while longer”.
- 6/5/18 (13 weeks in) I’m told “They’ve finished your order and are preparing to ship it”.
- 6/12/18 (14 weeks in) The suspension shows up at Filthy Motorsports, I tell them I’m out of town but I fly back on Friday 6/22/18 so I’ll come the following Monday morning to pick up the parts.
- 6/13/18 Filthy says “Ok, that should be fine. Please send us another email a few days before with the approximate time that you think you’ll show up. Ben should be inspecting your shocks today and if we discover any issues we will let you know. If you don’t get any more emails from us that will mean everything looked good.”
- 6/22/18 (15+ weeks in) I didn’t hear anything back so I sent a message that I’d come Monday morning around 8:30. They respond back saying the rear shocks are wrong, they aren’t the custom length rears. They said the box and the shocks are tagged as standard off the shelf rears and they are contacting King about it. Later that day Filthy said they talked to King and did some measurements and that they are in fact the correct parts just mislabeled.
- 6/25/18 I finally get my parts and head home to start the install.

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After spending a whole bunch of money and waiting 15+ weeks I was happy to have my parts but I can’t say I was happy with how it all went and the issues were just beginning. Both small washers for the slotted holes in front sway bar spacer/reservoir brackets were missing, the front hose clamps to mount the reservoirs were too short, and the rears didn’t come with any clamps at all to mount the reservoirs. I went to the hardware store and got what I needed and continued the install.

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If you notice in the above pics there is no preload on the coil overs. Filthy was very specific that they were already set up for a 2.5” lift in front and not to adjust anything, just throw them in and it’s good to go and in a month or so after everything settles you can tweak it if need be. So that’s what I did and it only gaining a little over an inch measured from the center of the hub to the fender edge. I asked Filthy what the deal was, their response was that my vehicle must be spec’d with extra weight than normal and that my before measurements seemed lower than normal to begin with. Knowing full well that was 100% made up BS I called King directly. King said the coil overs will never come set up for a 2.5” lift, they said they come with the spring perches at their lowest height which should be roughly 1.5” higher than stock. They said if you want 2.5” to go with 5 turns on 1 side and 7 on the other as a good starting point while accounting for the typical Toyota lean. That not even close what Filthy said. Remote reservoir Kings need to be removed in order to adjust height, so the suspension came right back out. King also informed me they always advise customers to except about 3 months for custom orders compared to the 4-5 weeks Filthy quoted. Really disapaointing.

Anyway, suspension went on.

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Little man was all about helping me out.
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Test fitting the bump stop spacers since they aren’t labeled left or right (this was wrong, the bump stops were too far forward.).
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As of the time of posting I haven’t gotten it aligned yet, I’m still butthurt that I don’t have access to do my own alignments anymore so I have to pay someone else to do it.

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Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:39 am

RCI rock sliders.

I’ve always loved the visual profile of their sliders and in my opinion, they are the best on the market. They have a 2" square main tube (vs. the common 1.75" round tubes), 1.75" DOM outer rails, 4 legs on each side with 1/4" steel gussets on all legs, and full length frame plate mounting that is completely bolt on.

After replacing the suspension and getting all for the XREAS lines and components off the frame I started on the sliders. The Limited rocker panels don’t play well with sliders because of their size, the solutions are buying OEM trail rockers, going with Shrockworks rockers with are steel and a pretty generic shape, or seemingly the most common option - removing the rocker panels. I didn’t want to spend a bunch on money on replacing the rocker panels so I opted to go with removing them.

To start I grabbed a wire brush and some sand paper. I cleaned up surface rust and scuffed the paint then recoated the frame where the sliders will sit and let it dry for 24 hours.
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I removed a rocker and bolted up a slider and starting checking it out. It looked horrible! You lose the front mud flaps, it looks unfinished and/or broken at the bottom of the fender, and most concerning, there is a big ass gap where the bottom of the door seal is fully exposed. My concern is winter driving, mud flap is gone and your spraying up ice and snow directly onto the seal through the gap between the body and the door. Image

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I sat there drinking a staring at it for a while bitching and moaning about it while trying to figure out why so many people run it like that before I finally worked up the courage to go for broke. I put down tape, marked my lines, traced my sons sand box bucket to get a consistent even radius and started hacking away.

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I did consider trimming the front and rear ends so when using the sliders to their fullest while actually sliding on rock I was afraid I would destroy the lower hanging sections of the rocker panels. I went back and forth on it but choose not to trim them further for the following reason.

The first is being silver the alignment of the rocker trims to the bumpers is a lot more noticeable than on darker colored vehicles. I felt like cutting it the whole length goes back to looking like something is missing because of the color. Second is the mud flaps, I know ditching them and posting muddy pics is what gets Instagram likes and whatnot but I’m perfectly ok with not spraying the side of my vehicle with mud and rocks, I will not willing give up my mud flaps and as with all things I want OEM quality fit and finish in as many ways as possible. Third was really considering my intended use of the sliders. The main purpose for getting them is to have a step that doesn’t reduce clearance now that it’s lifted. The secondary purpose is the kick out to push around trunk trunks and rocks to keep the side of the truck and tire away from damage. And finally, I can spend a couple minutes and pull the rockers and mudflaps if I know I’ll be doing something where I’ll need that extra clearance, but in all honesty, I do not intend to rock crawl and drop the frame down onto obstacles. I do come across some bigger things from time to time but that’s not my intended use of this vehicle, it’s not a rock crawler.

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Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:25 am

This is one hell of a nice T4R! :like:

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Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:57 am

This is absolutely outstanding.

:bravo:
Desertbreh wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:40 pm
My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.

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Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:22 am

Great choice of daily vehicle, mods, place to live, lifestyle! I sometimes wonder what life would be like if we just picked up and moved west. Really enjoyed this thread man.

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Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:21 am

5/7 thread. The 4Runner is awesome man.
Airboat Michaelangelo.

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Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:22 am

I'm jealous of your truck but mostly of where you live.

:fuckyeah:

I should just man up and get one of these things. Can I ask a couple of dumb questions?

How does it ride/handle with the stock suspension compared to your GTI over typical roads, and now with the upgraded suspension?
Gas mileage around what, 20 MPG highway?
Any complaints with the power or transmission?

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Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:26 am

The Limiteds look pretty stupid with the stock wheels. This looks so much better. Later years got the chrome braces on the front which look ridiculous, don't know why they did that.

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