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Im a relatively young guy. And I have always had friends close by with tools. So here I am nearing 25 and I only own like a 25 piece tool set.

Without breaking the bank what would the suggestion of the forum be to build my arsenal.

I know that Harbor Freight tools arent the highest quality. BUT I have used many of them quite extensively. As things break or the budget permits I can upgrade some things. Here is what my plan moving forward is. Let me know what yall think. What should I add or cut?

Goal:
Husky or US General Toolbox(Thinking husky) ($798)
Craftsman 450 Piece Tool Set (already own)
Gear Wrench Tap and Die Set ($100)
Kobalt Plier Set (already own)
Craftsman Screwdriver set (already own)
Milwaukee M12 cordless ratchet (already own)
Kobalt 20v Impact/ drill set ($200)
HF Impact sockets ($30)
HF 5in Vise ($70)
BFH ($15)
HF wire crimpers/snips ($5)
HF socket extension set ($15)
Pittsburgh(HF) aluminium racing 2.5 ton low pro car jack ($130)
4 craftsman jackstands (already own)
Kobalt Torque Wrench ($65)
HF creeper/seat, funnels, shelving ($70)

Total: $1,857

Things im not sure on:
Swivel Sockets(brand?)
Air Compressor (size and brand?)

What else should I be looking at?
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Hammer.
I already have BFH.

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I would pick one power tool brand and stick with it. Having different platforms and chargers gets messy. Also, the batteries are the expensive part, sticking to one brand cuts down the number you have to buy. Milwaukee would be my recommendation for the number of tools they offer and they are investing in their tool lineup to offer even nore. Their M12 platform is great. Their chargers do both M12 and m18.

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Thu May 17, 2018 10:12 am

You'll probably need two torque wrenches; a 3/8" driver for the smallish M5-M8 bolts, and a larger 1/2" driver for wheel lugs etc. A multimeter?

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Honestly, start by buying a nice Craftsman toolset with at least:

1/4 drive socket wrench
3/8 drive socket wrench
1/2 drive socket wrench

Those requirements will also come with all the sockets you'll need. They usually come in a nice carrying box so you don't need a separate toolbox. 95% of your work can be accomplished with this, and you'll keep it forever. I bought a Craftsman toolset 15 years ago, still have all the parts, none have failed, and I use it constantly.

Start with this as your basis and then buy tools as you need from there. Something like this would be fantastic:

http://www.sears.com/craftsman-270pc-me ... ockType=G8

Father's day is coming up, Sears usually runs :mindblown: deals on Craftsman toolsets.
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Thu May 17, 2018 10:34 am
Honestly, start by buying a nice Craftsman toolset with at least:

1/4 drive socket wrench
3/8 drive socket wrench
1/2 drive socket wrench

Those requirements will also come with all the sockets you'll need. They usually come in a nice carrying box so you don't need a separate toolbox. 95% of your work can be accomplished with this, and you'll keep it forever. I bought a Craftsman toolset 15 years ago, still have all the parts, none have failed, and I use it constantly.

Start with this as your basis and then buy tools as you need from there. Something like this would be fantastic:

http://www.sears.com/craftsman-270pc-me ... ockType=G8

Father's day is coming up, Sears usually runs :mindblown: deals on Craftsman toolsets.
:dat: :dat: :dat:

I got lucky and grabbed some Matco ratchets and sockets when my buddy was in school and got a killer :dill: on them. I love having quality ratchets.

I have HF stuff for tools that are not frequently used too.

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I really like my open ended wrenches with the ratchet style box end for hard to reach places that a socket can't get into.

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Apex wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 10:37 am
Detroit wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 10:34 am
Honestly, start by buying a nice Craftsman toolset with at least:

1/4 drive socket wrench
3/8 drive socket wrench
1/2 drive socket wrench

Those requirements will also come with all the sockets you'll need. They usually come in a nice carrying box so you don't need a separate toolbox. 95% of your work can be accomplished with this, and you'll keep it forever. I bought a Craftsman toolset 15 years ago, still have all the parts, none have failed, and I use it constantly.

Start with this as your basis and then buy tools as you need from there. Something like this would be fantastic:

http://www.sears.com/craftsman-270pc-me ... ockType=G8

Father's day is coming up, Sears usually runs :mindblown: deals on Craftsman toolsets.
:dat: :dat: :dat:

I got lucky and grabbed some Matco ratchets and sockets when my buddy was in school and got a killer :dill: on them. I love having quality ratchets.

I have HF stuff for tools that are not frequently used too.
Wow, Matco eh? :waxer:

Seriously, a quality set of hand tools goes a LONG way. For how frequently they're used, I would not go cheap HF on them. HF works great for stuff used infrequently, or that wears out quickly like screwdrivers.
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I really like my open ended wrenches with the ratchet style box end for hard to reach places that a socket can't get into.
I do too...but honestly I don't own a set. It would be handy to have, but I've done all my ridiculousness with good old fashioned open-ended wrenches.
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Barnes93cb wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 12:34 am



Husky or US General Toolbox(Thinking husky) ($798) wait for this till you get some wrenching under your belt.
Harbor Freight 301 piece Tool Set ($199) no, just no, see below
Gear Wrench Tap and Die Set ($100) i'd hold off on this till you NEEEEED it
Kobalt Plier Set (already own)
Craftsman Screwdriver set (already own) consider another at some point
Milwaukee M12 cordless ratchet ($160) hold off for now, i rarely use mine
Kobalt 20v Impact/ drill set ($200) I honestly have no imput on these things
HF Impact sockets ($30) yes
HF 5in Vise ($70) no, just no
BFH ($15) not from HF
HF wire crimpers/snips ($5) not from HF
HF socket extension set ($15) not from HF
Pittsburgh(HF) aluminium racing 2.5 ton low pro car jack ($130) sure never wook under this
4 craftsman jackstands (already own)
Kobalt Torque Wrench ($65) not hoes
HF creeper/seat, funnels, shelving ($70) yes on seat, you should be able to fit all this in one tool box & the below mechanics set.

Total: $1,857 doing it my way you might be out less than 700

Things im not sure on:
Swivel Sockets(brand?) no, i still down own this
Air Compressor (size and brand?) not yet needed

What else should I be looking at?


im going to save you some money for starting off..... I worked out of this for YEARS and slowly built up more over time. This shit will make you able to do 99% of any jobs. see notes above in red.

general:
skip the box for now. don't buy HF hand tools you expect to use more than twice.

get this. its also your one of your tool boxes. For your other box just pick something to fit the rest
http://www.sears.com/craftsman-450-piec ... Twodem8M4A

^ its actually a great price right now @ 200 I'd buy it now if possible.

Other stuff to suppliment, all the craftsman with full warranty:
Metric hex bit socekt set in 3/8 drive
long 1/4 extension
vice grips
long (~12" ) 3/8 extension, with wobbler end is my preference.
18mm combo wrench
19mm combo wrench
Medium Heel bar
Deadblow hammer
regular 5lb hammer


Stuff i'll allow you to get from HF:
1/2 drive impact socket set to get you metric sizes in half inch as high as you can (18mm and up)
vice grips
o2 sensor socket
1/2 drive click torque wrench. Get the 1/4 too the first time you need it. I rarely use my 3/8 one.

Buy a GEARWRENCH BRAND metric set of gear wrenches.... and buy a 10mm & 12mm swivel head ones to supplement that set. they are both the strongest and have the lowest profile ratcheting head on the market. Lowes runs sales from time to time.
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Tarspin wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 10:39 am
I really like my open ended wrenches with the ratchet style box end for hard to reach places that a socket can't get into.
I do too...but honestly I don't own a set. It would be handy to have, but I've done all my ridiculousness with good old fashioned open-ended wrenches.
It's totally unnecessary, but a set on sale could cost a little more then a basic set without the ratchet end for similar dollhairs.

I totally agree with you that :troywax: on an entire tool set isn't going to be better then buying what is needed at the time work is being done.

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Thu May 17, 2018 10:57 am

If you're going the Craftsman route, I'd recommend getting the 75 tooth ratchets that are included in this set, but I'm sure they're in others too.

http://www.sears.com/craftsman-155-piec ... ckType=G15#

Much nicer to use IMO, especially in tight places.

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Tarspin wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 10:56 am
Detroit wrote: I do too...but honestly I don't own a set. It would be handy to have, but I've done all my ridiculousness with good old fashioned open-ended wrenches.
It's totally unnecessary, but a set on sale could cost a little more then a basic set without the ratchet end for similar dollhairs.

I totally agree with you that :troywax: on an entire tool set isn't going to be better then buying what is needed at the time work is being done.
I'll disagree here, man those ratcheting end wrenches are a game changer. Worth every penny.

I take tool advice from pops who is a profession mechanic..... when he green lit the gear end wrenches i went and bought a set.
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golftdibrad wrote:
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Tarspin wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 10:56 am
It's totally unnecessary, but a set on sale could cost a little more then a basic set without the ratchet end for similar dollhairs.

I totally agree with you that :troywax: on an entire tool set isn't going to be better then buying what is needed at the time work is being done.
I'll disagree here, man those ratcheting end wrenches are a game changer. Worth every penny.

I take tool advice from pops who is a profession mechanic..... when he green lit the gear end wrenches i went and bought a set.
I'm sure they're nice to have and add at some point, but I've rebuilt entire cars without them. I wouldn't make them priority in the first buy.
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Thu May 17, 2018 11:13 am
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I'll disagree here, man those ratcheting end wrenches are a game changer. Worth every penny.

I take tool advice from pops who is a profession mechanic..... when he green lit the gear end wrenches i went and bought a set.
I'm sure they're nice to have and add at some point, but I've rebuilt entire cars without them. I wouldn't make them priority in the first buy.
I get that angle and so have I. My point is that these days its not worth it cost wise to buy the regular set & have the combo ones that come with the mechanics kit & later buy gearwrenchs.... just have the mechanics set ones and buy the set of gear wrenches when starting from scratch.
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Detroit wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 10:49 am
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:dat: :dat: :dat:

I got lucky and grabbed some Matco ratchets and sockets when my buddy was in school and got a killer :dill: on them. I love having quality ratchets.

I have HF stuff for tools that are not frequently used too.
Wow, Matco eh? :waxer:

Seriously, a quality set of hand tools goes a LONG way. For how frequently they're used, I would not go cheap HF on them. HF works great for stuff used infrequently, or that wears out quickly like screwdrivers.
Yeah, their student purchasing program is :mindblown: good.

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golftdibrad wrote:
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Detroit wrote:
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I'm sure they're nice to have and add at some point, but I've rebuilt entire cars without them. I wouldn't make them priority in the first buy.
I get that angle and so have I. My point is that these days its not worth it cost wise to buy the regular set & have the combo ones that come with the mechanics kit & later buy gearwrenchs.... just have the mechanics set ones and buy the set of gear wrenches when starting from scratch.
Ohhhh, that makes sense.
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Tool kits kinda suck in my opinion for a couple reasons. They come in their blow molded cases and with cutout labeled areas where each piece goes, which isn’t bad, it just limits your ability to organize and grow your equipment . Also it has a an assortment of sockets from 8mm to 21mm but it typically won’t have a 9mm, 16mm, 18mm, they skip many sizes.

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Honestly, start by buying a nice Craftsman toolset with at least:

1/4 drive socket wrench
3/8 drive socket wrench
1/2 drive socket wrench

Those requirements will also come with all the sockets you'll need. They usually come in a nice carrying box so you don't need a separate toolbox. 95% of your work can be accomplished with this, and you'll keep it forever. I bought a Craftsman toolset 15 years ago, still have all the parts, none have failed, and I use it constantly.

Start with this as your basis and then buy tools as you need from there. Something like this would be fantastic:

http://www.sears.com/craftsman-270pc-me ... ockType=G8

Father's day is coming up, Sears usually runs :mindblown: deals on Craftsman toolsets.
This is an amazing deal. This would actually be a great buy for a "spare" mobile tool kit to take on road trips/camping/ yadda yadda.
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Detroit wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 10:34 am
Honestly, start by buying a nice Craftsman toolset with at least:

1/4 drive socket wrench
3/8 drive socket wrench
1/2 drive socket wrench

Those requirements will also come with all the sockets you'll need. They usually come in a nice carrying box so you don't need a separate toolbox. 95% of your work can be accomplished with this, and you'll keep it forever. I bought a Craftsman toolset 15 years ago, still have all the parts, none have failed, and I use it constantly.

Start with this as your basis and then buy tools as you need from there. Something like this would be fantastic:

http://www.sears.com/craftsman-270pc-me ... ockType=G8

Father's day is coming up, Sears usually runs :mindblown: deals on Craftsman toolsets.
I bought a set like this, sans toolbox, for like $100 on Black Friday years back. If you can wait until then, they always do some crazy deals at Sears.
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Desertbreh wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 1:12 pm
Detroit wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 10:34 am
Honestly, start by buying a nice Craftsman toolset with at least:

1/4 drive socket wrench
3/8 drive socket wrench
1/2 drive socket wrench

Those requirements will also come with all the sockets you'll need. They usually come in a nice carrying box so you don't need a separate toolbox. 95% of your work can be accomplished with this, and you'll keep it forever. I bought a Craftsman toolset 15 years ago, still have all the parts, none have failed, and I use it constantly.

Start with this as your basis and then buy tools as you need from there. Something like this would be fantastic:

http://www.sears.com/craftsman-270pc-me ... ockType=G8

Father's day is coming up, Sears usually runs :mindblown: deals on Craftsman toolsets.
This is an amazing deal. This would actually be a great buy for a "spare" mobile tool kit to take on road trips/camping/ yadda yadda.
I’m considering it for wheeling, actually.
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My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.

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Thu May 17, 2018 1:23 pm
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This is an amazing deal. This would actually be a great buy for a "spare" mobile tool kit to take on road trips/camping/ yadda yadda.
I’m considering it for wheeling, actually.
You've got a cool group of ZR2/Colorado owners to wheel with near you. :jelly:

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I would pick one power tool brand and stick with it. Having different platforms and chargers gets messy. Also, the batteries are the expensive part, sticking to one brand cuts down the number you have to buy. Milwaukee would be my recommendation for the number of tools they offer and they are investing in their tool lineup to offer even nore. Their M12 platform is great. Their chargers do both M12 and m18.
I like my M12 power tools. Work great.

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Detroit wrote:
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This is an amazing deal. This would actually be a great buy for a "spare" mobile tool kit to take on road trips/camping/ yadda yadda.
I’m considering it for wheeling, actually.
$150 is free for that, Faxbro's $200 set may be even better.
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