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Stop. What happened to fuck all the things I want to hang out in the Rocky Mountains? You are a highly educated, highly qualified applicant for real jobs that pay real money. It will happen.
Not for nothing, when you actually have the rug pulled from underneath you and you find yourself jobless and it’s out of your control, it’s very uncomfortable.

It’s one thing to do it on your own terms, but when your hand is forced and you’ve lost the security of even a shitty job it definitely puts a bit of panic in the back of your mind.
:dat: I strongly agree
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:36 pm


Not for nothing, when you actually have the rug pulled from underneath you and you find yourself jobless and it’s out of your control, it’s very uncomfortable.

It’s one thing to do it on your own terms, but when your hand is forced and you’ve lost the security of even a shitty job it definitely puts a bit of panic in the back of your mind.
Not wrong. Also been searching for 6 months and mostly crickets. So a little uneasy about the job market at least in the Philly area.
Of course, literally 2 minutes after I post this... :popcorn:

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Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:13 am

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Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:12 am
Johnny_P wrote:
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Not wrong. Also been searching for 6 months and mostly crickets. So a little uneasy about the job market at least in the Philly area.
Of course, literally 2 minutes after I post this... :popcorn:
:ohdang: :excited:
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Johnny_P wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:12 am
Johnny_P wrote:
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Not wrong. Also been searching for 6 months and mostly crickets. So a little uneasy about the job market at least in the Philly area.
Of course, literally 2 minutes after I post this... :popcorn:
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Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:22 am

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Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:00 am
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Not for nothing, when you actually have the rug pulled from underneath you and you find yourself jobless and it’s out of your control, it’s very uncomfortable.

It’s one thing to do it on your own terms, but when your hand is forced and you’ve lost the security of even a shitty job it definitely puts a bit of panic in the back of your mind.
Not wrong. Also been searching for 6 months and mostly crickets. So a little uneasy about the job market at least in the Philly area.
I've been hunting jobs left and right for nearly 1.5 years or more now, even the ones that are more entry level I get turned down (which i call "get your foot in there prove that you're better than <insert entry level position>"). You can't control and feel powerless when you don't even hear them back to begin with. Not to mention when I got turned down the 3rd interview at a hotel in DC, I was :rage: needless to say, considering there was hope and fought morning rush hour 395 traffic for it.
Fortunately I have a job so i'm not that much in a rush and I have taken some short hiatus in between. But I do wanna leave where I currently work soon enough for one, I've been working there too freaking long and 2, I pretty much have no room for growth at this point, so it makes sense for me to jump the ship at the next port so I can be more comfortable again.
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Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:24 am

Johnny_P wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:12 am
Johnny_P wrote:
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Not wrong. Also been searching for 6 months and mostly crickets. So a little uneasy about the job market at least in the Philly area.
Of course, literally 2 minutes after I post this... :popcorn:
:popcorn: :excited:

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Johnny_P wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:12 am
Johnny_P wrote:
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Not wrong. Also been searching for 6 months and mostly crickets. So a little uneasy about the job market at least in the Philly area.
Of course, literally 2 minutes after I post this... :popcorn:
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Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:08 pm

Johnny_P wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:12 am
Johnny_P wrote:
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Not wrong. Also been searching for 6 months and mostly crickets. So a little uneasy about the job market at least in the Philly area.
Of course, literally 2 minutes after I post this... :popcorn:
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Johnny_P wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:12 am
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Not wrong. Also been searching for 6 months and mostly crickets. So a little uneasy about the job market at least in the Philly area.
Of course, literally 2 minutes after I post this... :popcorn:
:ohmy:
:popcorn:
:wap: Where are these mangos?

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Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:48 pm

Well. It's :flaccid: kind of. A few $k more than I was making previously but no 401k or retirement benefits. Plus longer hours expected on a regular basis because startup company.

:notsure:

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Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:08 pm

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Well. It's :flaccid: kind of. A few $k more than I was making previously but no 401k or retirement benefits. Plus longer hours expected on a regular basis because startup company.

:notsure:
Do they have regular bene's like health, dental, and vision?

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Well. It's :flaccid: kind of. A few $k more than I was making previously but no 401k or retirement benefits. Plus longer hours expected on a regular basis because startup company.

:notsure:
Do they have regular bene's like health, dental, and vision?
Yes. I don't know coverage details though. I suppose I could ask what the contributions are and for a breakdown of coverage.

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Do they have regular bene's like health, dental, and vision?
Yes. I don't know coverage details though. I suppose I could ask what the contributions are and for a breakdown of coverage.
I get the :flaccid: feel on this... the longer hours are what you are trying to get away from...

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Yes. I don't know coverage details though. I suppose I could ask what the contributions are and for a breakdown of coverage.
I get the :flaccid: feel on this... the longer hours are what you are trying to get away from...
Longer hours. It's only temporary, but that'll run until July ish of next year. Theoretically 5 days a week but likely 6. Its not a bad offer just not quite what I was hoping for. It would be a resume builder, but not sure how advantageous even that is, considering the size and scale of projects I've already worked on. Building the whole facility but it's :jalepenis: in size compared to any refinery or even chemical plant. Pretty sure even Praxair's nitrogen plant is larger.

:notsure:

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Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:21 pm

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Well. It's :flaccid: kind of. A few $k more than I was making previously but no 401k or retirement benefits. Plus longer hours expected on a regular basis because startup company.

:notsure:
I would reach back out and get deetz on the bennies. They're very important so you need to know, but also you may be able to gauge how much they want you by the response, like if they're really trying to sell it on you. Then you could perhaps negotiate a bit more to make up for the retirement.

Do they know about the layoff?

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Well. It's :flaccid: kind of. A few $k more than I was making previously but no 401k or retirement benefits. Plus longer hours expected on a regular basis because startup company.

:notsure:
I would reach back out and get deetz on the bennies. They're very important so you need to know, but also you may be able to gauge how much they want you by the response, like if they're really trying to sell it on you. Then you could perhaps negotiate a bit more to make up for the retirement.

Do they know about the layoff?
Yeah they know about it. I think that is playing into the offer. Such is life.

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I would reach back out and get deetz on the bennies. They're very important so you need to know, but also you may be able to gauge how much they want you by the response, like if they're really trying to sell it on you. Then you could perhaps negotiate a bit more to make up for the retirement.

Do they know about the layoff?
Yeah they know about it. I think that is playing into the offer. Such is life.
Yeah, that makes it a lot trickier to walk away from an offer.

Outside of the huge hourly commitment, how are your feels on it?

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Yeah they know about it. I think that is playing into the offer. Such is life.
Yeah, that makes it a lot trickier to walk away from an offer.

Outside of the huge hourly commitment, how are your feels on it?
Not exactly what I want to do but take it and use that year to strengthen and expand my network and continue looking for something else.

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Well. It's :flaccid: kind of. A few $k more than I was making previously but no 401k or retirement benefits. Plus longer hours expected on a regular basis because startup company.

:notsure:
Take it.

It’s easier to find a job when you have a job... you’re in demand and hold the cards.

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Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:24 pm
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Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:48 pm
Well. It's :flaccid: kind of. A few $k more than I was making previously but no 401k or retirement benefits. Plus longer hours expected on a regular basis because startup company.

:notsure:
Take it.

It’s easier to find a job when you have a job... you’re in demand and hold the cards.
That’s kind of the way I’m leaning.

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Take it.

It’s easier to find a job when you have a job... you’re in demand and hold the cards.
That’s kind of the way I’m leaning.
1) agreed
2) without a retirement plan ask for equity as a replacement. Startups (often) give it away like candy and it is where the real money is.
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Yeah, that makes it a lot trickier to walk away from an offer.

Outside of the huge hourly commitment, how are your feels on it?
Not exactly what I want to do but take it and use that year to strengthen and expand my network and continue looking for something else.
That’s basically what I’m doing and while the work isn’t that fun I’m learning so much and I think it has opened up more possibilities for my future, at least I hope so.

So yeah, I guess I vote take it.

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I get the :flaccid: feel on this... the longer hours are what you are trying to get away from...
Longer hours. It's only temporary, but that'll run until July ish of next year. Theoretically 5 days a week but likely 6. Its not a bad offer just not quite what I was hoping for. It would be a resume builder, but not sure how advantageous even that is, considering the size and scale of projects I've already worked on. Building the whole facility but it's :jalepenis: in size compared to any refinery or even chemical plant. Pretty sure even Praxair's nitrogen plant is larger.

:notsure:
Also things to consider....starts ups are often cash strapped and DUMP staff after their major task is done; ie if you are working on the plant as soon as its up they might fire you. Tesla did this after the roadster was in production to their engineering staff.
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That’s kind of the way I’m leaning.
1) agreed
2) without a retirement plan ask for equity as a replacement. Startups (often) give it away like candy and it is where the real money is.
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Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:07 am

Thinking about taking a pipe welding course just for the certs and looking for a union job down in NC. My current job is nice and no pressure, inside and I have my own luxuries such as my own radio, fan, mini fridge, and microwave, but fuuuuu if Union money isn't really tempting.

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Thinking about taking a pipe welding course just for the certs and looking for a union job down in NC. My current job is nice and no pressure, inside and I have my own luxuries such as my own radio, fan, mini fridge, and microwave, but fuuuuu if Union money isn't really tempting.
I would think your skills are in high demand right now. Chase the money bro.
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