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bother with the 2.slow. I’m definitely team skip the turbo when possible though.Yeah they do feel close. A little more go in the 2.0, a bit of lag, a bit better MPG.Detroit wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:57 am I've had a 3.6 BSG for the last week and the wife has a 2.0 BSG. The two are remarkably similar. I do think the 2.0T feels "peppier", more torque down low, it's also a lot smoother on start from the ESS than the 3.6 (barely detectable on start).
She also drives like shit in a 70/30 city/highway drive and it's indicating 22mpg. I drive the same commute (literally we work .5 miles apart) and drive gentler than her and mine's indicating 20. Obviously not real world, so who knows what the real difference is, but I do intend on tracking hers just for shits n gigs.
I wouldn't personally give a damn which motor it had.Yeah. Hybrid motors stop running at a stop but all the hotel accessories keep working because they're electric because they were designed correctly.max225 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:41 pmI will, SS systems need to be outlawed, dumbest shit ever, unless it’s an actual hybridJohnny_P wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:30 pm
I need more butt time in the 2.slow. Not sure I'd care which engine it had. The BSG is meh, start/stop still happens, the AC still turns off when that occurs, etc. It's 90F and humid as fuck and this is a black on black jeep so that's not acceptable, ASS system was immediately turned off. 2.0 sounds meh but does make turbo vacuum cleaner noises. V6 sounds rowdy. 2.0 feels faster and better fuel economy but has turbo lag. Flip a coin.
I think maybe lean to the V6 right meow for consistency's sake? Ask me in 2 weeks.
The one in the fiance's Cherokee is retarded. Whenever she pulls into the driveway, the engine quits, and then fires back up as soon as she shifts the trans out of drive and into park, only to be shut off immediately once the key is turned.max225 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:41 pmI will, SS systems need to be outlawed, dumbest shit ever, unless it’s an actual hybridJohnny_P wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:30 pm
I need more butt time in the 2.slow. Not sure I'd care which engine it had. The BSG is meh, start/stop still happens, the AC still turns off when that occurs, etc. It's 90F and humid as fuck and this is a black on black jeep so that's not acceptable, ASS system was immediately turned off. 2.0 sounds meh but does make turbo vacuum cleaner noises. V6 sounds rowdy. 2.0 feels faster and better fuel economy but has turbo lag. Flip a coin.
I think maybe lean to the V6 right meow for consistency's sake? Ask me in 2 weeks.
LOVE that color.dubshow wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:23 pm fuck, i wish i didn't like this thing so much....
https://www.salsburys.com/new/Jeep/2019 ... 18961f.htm
I want that with a cloth top in 2 door for $38k.
right. And no way to get aDetroit wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:33 pmLOVE that color.dubshow wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:23 pm fuck, i wish i didn't like this thing so much....
https://www.salsburys.com/new/Jeep/2019 ... 18961f.htm
I want that with a cloth top in 2 door for $38k.
A minimally equipped 2 Door Rubicon isn't a ton above $40k IIRC. Problem is it would likely need to be ordered.
on ordering. Im searching a low spec rubi 2 door in bikini and its rare AF.If you go deeper into build you can still spec it on a 2019.
and tan leather... 
odd ball 
I mis typed, it was a 2019/2020 offering, but only a few months in 2020.dubshow wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:52 pmIf you go deeper into build you can still spec it on a 2019.
my perfect one is $47k.
There is a close match at $54k in texas, with color hardtop
https://www.riveroakscars.com/new/Jeep/ ... 35b507.htm
and a near identical spec which is kinda
https://www.riveroakscars.com/new/Jeep/ ... bdf424.htm
but damn is that a loaded up 2 door.I found one in Houston listed at $44k down from $51k. Its nearly what I want and heavily discounted. none color hard top doe.Detroit wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:59 pmI mis typed, it was a 2019/2020 offering, but only a few months in 2020.dubshow wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:52 pm
If you go deeper into build you can still spec it on a 2019.
my perfect one is $47k.
There is a close match at $54k in texas, with color hardtop
https://www.riveroakscars.com/new/Jeep/ ... 35b507.htm
and a near identical spec which is kinda
https://www.riveroakscars.com/new/Jeep/ ... bdf424.htm
That second one is
Wow, solid discount.dubshow wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:05 pmI found one in Houston listed at $44k down from $51k. Its nearly what I want and heavily discounted. none color hard top doe.
https://www.autonationchryslerdodgejeep ... a4c7cf.htm
it has a small electric motor/generator thing for instant TQ making it feel faster on take off.Johnny_P wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:18 pm Rental for the next 2 weeks is a JLU Sport with the 2.blow.
Initial impressions are it rides both better and worse than the Ram Rebel, and wind noise is a hell of a lot less than the rental I had. Haven't had it in a windy situation yet. The turbo does have lag that the V6 didn't, both feel about the same power wise, a bit more ass down low with the boosted motor, V6 sounded better.
I'll be curious to compare the wife's JL 2.0 with BSG to my dad's 2.0 without. His is a 2-door and will feel faster because of that, but I'm wondering if the lag will be more pronounced in his.dubshow wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:59 pmit has a small electric motor/generator thing for instant TQ making it feel faster on take off.Johnny_P wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:18 pm Rental for the next 2 weeks is a JLU Sport with the 2.blow.
Initial impressions are it rides both better and worse than the Ram Rebel, and wind noise is a hell of a lot less than the rental I had. Haven't had it in a windy situation yet. The turbo does have lag that the V6 didn't, both feel about the same power wise, a bit more ass down low with the boosted motor, V6 sounded better.
That electric motor on the BSG starts the engine almost imperceptibly. I spent all week driving the 3.6 with BSG without turning off ESS, it didn't bother me at all.It feels like a turbo laggy Tiguan at take off.dubshow wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:59 pmit has a small electric motor/generator thing for instant TQ making it feel faster on take off.Johnny_P wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:18 pm Rental for the next 2 weeks is a JLU Sport with the 2.blow.
Initial impressions are it rides both better and worse than the Ram Rebel, and wind noise is a hell of a lot less than the rental I had. Haven't had it in a windy situation yet. The turbo does have lag that the V6 didn't, both feel about the same power wise, a bit more ass down low with the boosted motor, V6 sounded better.
