Jeeponomics 101: Eternal tirekicking for the gutless Jeep

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Desertbreh wrote: Fri Jun 29, 2018 11:20 am
Detroit wrote: Fri Jun 29, 2018 9:57 am
I'd put some effort out to drive this if given the opportunity...

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Yeah, this is not Flavor Flav's Bentley.
It's Ken Block's
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Johnny_P wrote: Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:01 pm
Desertbreh wrote: Fri Jun 29, 2018 11:20 am

Yeah, this is not Flavor Flav's Bentley.
It's Ken Block's
Needs more neon green and MonsterRockstarBRO stickers.
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SAWCE wrote: Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:21 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:01 pm

It's Ken Block's
Needs more neon green and MonsterRockstarBRO stickers.
I know. It's really pretty half assed. You can't just dip your toe into bro waters, you gotta go full bro or just don't.
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Johnny_P wrote: Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:29 pm
SAWCE wrote: Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:21 pm

Needs more neon green and MonsterRockstarBRO stickers.
I know. It's really pretty half assed. You can't just dip your toe into bro waters, you gotta go full bro or just don't.
I like the subtle broness. It is a Bentley after all.
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Detroit wrote: Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:35 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:29 pm

I know. It's really pretty half assed. You can't just dip your toe into bro waters, you gotta go full bro or just don't.
I like the subtle broness. It is a Bentley after all.
:dat: Would drive.
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Johnny_P wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:21 pm Earn it and burn it, Val.
max225 wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 5:35 pm Yes it's a cool car. But prepare the lube/sawdust.
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Detroit wrote: Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:35 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:29 pm

I know. It's really pretty half assed. You can't just dip your toe into bro waters, you gotta go full bro or just don't.
I like the subtle broness. It is a Bentley after all.
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Johnny_P wrote: Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:44 pm
Detroit wrote: Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:35 pm
I like the subtle broness. It is a Bentley after all.
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Desertbreh wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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Detroit wrote: Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:52 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:44 pm

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:lolol:
:dat:
Detroit wrote:Buy 911s instead of diamonds.
Johnny_P wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:21 pm Earn it and burn it, Val.
max225 wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 5:35 pm Yes it's a cool car. But prepare the lube/sawdust.
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max225 wrote: Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:52 pm Image

So many things I like in one picture


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SAWCE wrote: Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:01 pm
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So many things I like in one picture


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I’m always impressed with how well the Grand Cherokee rides with the Old Man Emu lift and no rear sway bar. Super comfortable but controlled.
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Jeep JL track bar weld breaks. Many owners report horrific welds underneath their vehicles.
https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/forum/ ... w-jl.6979/
https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/forum/ ... sues.5446/


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Porosity, lack of fusion, splatter, and what looks to be moving too quickly with the electrode.... poorly set up welding machine and a welding surface not cleaned will cause this type of weld defect. This weld is seriously compromised and needs to be redone. Major safety issue.
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Johnny_P wrote: Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:44 pm Jeep JL track bar weld breaks. Many owners report horrific welds underneath their vehicles.
https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/forum/ ... w-jl.6979/
https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/forum/ ... sues.5446/


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Porosity, lack of fusion, splatter, and what looks to be moving too quickly with the electrode.... poorly set up welding machine and a welding surface not cleaned will cause this type of weld defect. This weld is seriously compromised and needs to be redone. Major safety issue.
I thought they had a TSB to address that.... Only very very early models.
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Yea, this seems like something that would come from early manufacturing runs.
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Seems like a fairly easy fix ... 30 min with a grinder... 1 hr with a welder... 30 min with new undercoat.

But yea... :doomed:
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Yeah, this was kind of a small incident from what I saw.

I checked mine and they look nothing like that, they aren't the best welds I've seen my friend that worked at NASA do, but they aren't bad by any measure... at least not like the ones in the pics.
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CorvetteWaxer wrote: Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:58 pm Yeah, this was kind of a small incident from what I saw.

I checked mine and they look nothing like that, they aren't the best welds I've seen my friend that worked at NASA do, but they aren't bad by any measure... at least not like the ones in the pics.
If you want Nasa welds on a Jeep you'd better be ready to spend 55 million a piece not 55k.
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max225 wrote: Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:01 pm
CorvetteWaxer wrote: Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:58 pm Yeah, this was kind of a small incident from what I saw.

I checked mine and they look nothing like that, they aren't the best welds I've seen my friend that worked at NASA do, but they aren't bad by any measure... at least not like the ones in the pics.
If you want Nasa welds on a Jeep you'd better be ready to spend 55 million a piece not 55k.
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Jeep JM Moon Rover edition coming through the pipeline?
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https://www.southcountychryslerdodgejee ... d66b44.htm

25k for a new JL with a hardtop. I wonder if it truly doesn't have AC.
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max225 wrote: Fri Jul 27, 2018 2:31 pm https://www.southcountychryslerdodgejee ... d66b44.htm

25k for a new JL with a hardtop. I wonder if it truly doesn't have AC.
Basic A/C is standard. I believe it just has a hot/cold dial and a fan speed control.
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CorvetteWaxer wrote: Fri Jul 27, 2018 2:49 pm
max225 wrote: Fri Jul 27, 2018 2:31 pm https://www.southcountychryslerdodgejee ... d66b44.htm

25k for a new JL with a hardtop. I wonder if it truly doesn't have AC.
Basic A/C is standard. I believe it just has a hot/cold dial and a fan speed control.
Nope... Looks like it is an option on the 2 doors :wtf: no ac in 2018... and still 30k msrp. :mindblown:
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Nope... Looks like it is an option on the 2 doors :wtf: no ac in 2018... and still 30k msrp. :mindblown:
Fancy tractor.
Modern Tractors have ac
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Holy shit, it doesn't have A/C! (not listed on the monroney, which is a legal document BTW).

Whoever ordered that is going to get some shit. No wonder it's so cheap.
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