Jeeponomics 101: Eternal tirekicking for the gutless Jeep

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max225 wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:49 am
MexicanYarisTK wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:12 am

i like how they made a commercial of that car showing what it's made of in the first place. Also i'm not sure if the rubicon is higher stock compared to JK?

If that italian diesel engine proven to be reliable for the 1st course, i may consider pulling the plunge.
A diesel JL will likely lick 60k, and in most applications it adds 400-600lbs fuck that,
And with the new 8-speed, I'm sure the gasser does great in all situations.
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Detroit wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:05 pm
max225 wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:49 am
A diesel JL will likely lick 60k, and in most applications it adds 400-600lbs fuck that,
And with the new 8-speed, I'm sure the gasser does great in all situations.
It sure does. The JL is still relatively small and light. So 300 hp and an 8 speed do just fine with 4000-4200lbs
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max225 wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:49 am
MexicanYarisTK wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:12 am

i like how they made a commercial of that car showing what it's made of in the first place. Also i'm not sure if the rubicon is higher stock compared to JK?

If that italian diesel engine proven to be reliable for the 1st course, i may consider pulling the plunge.
A diesel JL will likely lick 60k, and in most applications it adds 400-600lbs fuck that,
oh shieettt, thats quite expensive for a jeep. I have better cars in mind for that amount of money. Not so "economical" when you dump $60k on a diesel :lol:
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Detroit wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:05 pm
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A diesel JL will likely lick 60k, and in most applications it adds 400-600lbs fuck that,
And with the new 8-speed, I'm sure the gasser does great in all situations.
assuming they have cylinder deactivation too. As far as I know, only FCA v8's does that.
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MexicanYarisTK wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:30 pm
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A diesel JL will likely lick 60k, and in most applications it adds 400-600lbs fuck that,
oh shieettt, thats quite expensive for a jeep. I have better cars in mind for that amount of money. Not so "economical" when you dump $60k on a diesel :lol:
If you want to “save money “ a stripper jk and the money you save over the JL will lay for gas for the time you’re alive
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MexicanYarisTK wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:31 pm
Detroit wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:05 pm
And with the new 8-speed, I'm sure the gasser does great in all situations.
assuming they have cylinder deactivation too. As far as I know, only FCA v8's does that.
They do not , the thing is a brick it needs more power on he freeway
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MexicanYarisTK wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:12 am
Detroit wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:26 am This one is WAY more :fuckyeah: to me.

i like how they made a commercial of that car showing what it's made of in the first place. Also i'm not sure if the rubicon is higher stock compared to JK?

If that italian diesel engine proven to be reliable for the 1st course, i may consider pulling the plunge.
Repeat that. Seems......unlikely.
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max225 wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:39 pm
MexicanYarisTK wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:30 pm

oh shieettt, thats quite expensive for a jeep. I have better cars in mind for that amount of money. Not so "economical" when you dump $60k on a diesel :lol:
If you want to “save money “ a stripper jk and the money you save over the JL will lay for gas for the time you’re alive
that's something i would go for, get base sport, then trade the sport wheels to rubicon or sahara wheels. Then continue to mod the shit out of it. I haven't looked too much for the new wranglers yet.
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Desertbreh wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:44 pm
MexicanYarisTK wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:12 am

i like how they made a commercial of that car showing what it's made of in the first place. Also i'm not sure if the rubicon is higher stock compared to JK?

If that italian diesel engine proven to be reliable for the 1st course, i may consider pulling the plunge.
Repeat that. Seems......unlikely.
Hence the word IF.
An italian to be more reliable than japanese, is like kim kardashians body parts are real. There. Is. No. Way. In. Hell.
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A euro-designed diesel might not be that bad, they sell a lot more diesels over there. :iono:
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MexicanYarisTK wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:46 pm
Desertbreh wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:44 pm

Repeat that. Seems......unlikely.
Hence the word IF.
An italian to be more reliable than japanese, is like kim kardashians body parts are real. There. Is. No. Way. In. Hell.
That engine has been around for about 5 years now I’m sure you can look up the reliability. I can tell you service costs are high.
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MexicanYarisTK wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:45 pm
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If you want to “save money “ a stripper jk and the money you save over the JL will lay for gas for the time you’re alive
that's something i would go for, get base sport, then trade the sport wheels to rubicon or sahara wheels. Then continue to mod the shit out of it. I haven't looked too much for the new wranglers yet.
Or you might as well buy the better model.
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troyguitar wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:47 pm A euro-designed diesel might not be that bad, they sell a lot more diesels over there. :iono:
I think this was designed with light commercial use in mind. They don't use diesels that big over there.
This was made by VY IIRC, the shitty part is the EGR+Donkey PISS+ all those extra cats to comply to modern rules, partially why this thing weighs 400-600lb more than the tried and proven 3.6.
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Interesting note on the JL commercials, I am a bit surprised they only showed the 2 door. I know it was a bit of an homage to the old model, but shouldn't' they show off the model that 80% of buyers get?
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CorvetteWaxer wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:12 am So, I read a story in my feed about that commercial yesterday. Someone was questioning what mods were done to the Jeep, so they reached out to Jeep and the official reply was that they did two things to that Jeep for the commercial:

1. BFG 35" tires
2. $1,000 Mopar 2" lift kit

:notbad: for a commercial, some of the vehicles you see are pretty far from stock. You can literally drive it out of the dealership like that.
I thought it looked higher than stock... Does FCA warrant the mods though? I thought they were in some kind of legaleze gray area.
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max225 wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:01 pm
CorvetteWaxer wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:12 am So, I read a story in my feed about that commercial yesterday. Someone was questioning what mods were done to the Jeep, so they reached out to Jeep and the official reply was that they did two things to that Jeep for the commercial:

1. BFG 35" tires
2. $1,000 Mopar 2" lift kit

:notbad: for a commercial, some of the vehicles you see are pretty far from stock. You can literally drive it out of the dealership like that.
I thought it looked higher than stock... Does FCA warrant the mods though? I thought they were in some kind of legaleze gray area.
Mopar lift plus tires bought and installed at :dillerman: you have a good case for warranty.
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Detroit wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:26 am This one is WAY more :fuckyeah: to me.

Yea that one was 5/7
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max225 wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:33 pm https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/2-0l-t ... p-premium/

2.slow is a 1k premium
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max225 wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:33 pm https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/2-0l-t ... p-premium/

2.slow is a 1k premium
:dafuq:
2.slow
Rubicon
+ convertible soft top
+ all options clicked.

Voila... 60k :fullretard:
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max225 wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:33 pm https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/2-0l-t ... p-premium/

2.slow is a 1k premium
Oh, cool. That solidifies the V6 then.

Why would anyone pay that premium? Unless the hybrid is really good :yeahok: I don't see the value.
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Detroit wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2018 6:28 am
max225 wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:33 pm https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/2-0l-t ... p-premium/

2.slow is a 1k premium
Oh, cool. That solidifies the V6 then.

Why would anyone pay that premium? Unless the hybrid is really good :yeahok: I don't see the value.
High altitude performance? Got me. Pointless for anyone at sea level at least.
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Johnny_P wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:13 am
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Oh, cool. That solidifies the V6 then.

Why would anyone pay that premium? Unless the hybrid is really good :yeahok: I don't see the value.
High altitude performance? Got me. Pointless for anyone at sea level at least.
Oh, interesting point.
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Detroit wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:10 am
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High altitude performance? Got me. Pointless for anyone at sea level at least.
Oh, interesting point.
Yeah, that is one key that Jeep and a few reviewers hit on... also, the TurBro makes a bit more torque, but needs to wind out more, IIRC.
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max225 wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:47 pm
MexicanYarisTK wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:46 pm

Hence the word IF.
An italian to be more reliable than japanese, is like kim kardashians body parts are real. There. Is. No. Way. In. Hell.
That engine has been around for about 5 years now I’m sure you can look up the reliability. I can tell you service costs are high.
Unicorn oil and filters $300 at the dealer every 10k
I believe you told me that the same engine was in the Ram truck. damn, so much for saving money to get a diesel for better mpgzz.
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