IX-Lemon Life.

[CaleDeRoo]

The Etron Sport back has a blue interior. Sold today to a total babe. Audi seats are very good

[CaleDeRoo]

My friend said they can't move this because it's the tri-motor on poopy looking wheels.

[Desertbreh]

Yes there are decent days. But I’ll agree to disagree. I would never live there because of the weather. From my experience it’s not worth the cheap cost of entry.

I am not one to mind snow so for me places like northeast are vastly better as far as climate is concerned. So I totally get the Michigan/etc lifestyle but Chicago does get “too cold” at points which is borderline life threatening.

I've never died here

You have a garage heater Ron.

[Desertbreh]

Yes there are decent days. But I’ll agree to disagree. I would never live there because of the weather. From my experience it’s not worth the cheap cost of entry.

I am not one to mind snow so for me places like northeast are vastly better as far as climate is concerned. So I totally get the Michigan/etc lifestyle but Chicago does get “too cold” at points which is borderline life threatening.

I’d never live here for a lot of reasons despite the cheapness so we can at least agree on that

I don't get Texas either. In CA or AZ interior, you can drive to the Pacific Coast, which is almost always this huge climate change. In TX, you are driving from searing heat to the Gulf, which is less searing but 98% humidity.

[wap]

I've never died here

You have a garage heater Ron.

Gotta turn that thing on. It was 25* all day here today.

[CaleDeRoo]

You have a garage heater Ron.

Gotta turn that thing on. It was 25* all day here today.

And windy as hell.

[wap]

Gotta turn that thing on. It was 25* all day here today.

And windy as hell.

It was brutal. I took a walk at lunch and it actually hurt.

[CaleDeRoo]

And windy as hell.

It was brutal. I took a walk at lunch and it actually hurt.

Yep I didn't think to pack my winter coat.

[max225]

And windy as hell.

It was brutal. I took a walk at lunch and it actually hurt.

That was my point. Clearly people survive on the North Pole and in subsaharan Africa. Every place on earth has some sort of downside … even Hawaii with the same weather year around has a volcano that can blow them
To pieces at any moment.

[max225]

The Etron Sport back has a blue interior. Sold today to a total babe. Audi seats are very good

If you were to park that next to an ID4 I’d be hard pressed to tell a difference. The Premium is simply not worth it imo

[max225]

Yea X3 base was great... but would be nice to have something slightly more upmarket. Also kept bitching about the seats in that one... we did spend 12 hrs in one sitting in there so I am sure that didn't help. I think just bmws in general are not under consideration as she seems a bit annoyed with our mini experience and dealers being certifiable rapists. That said... MB/Audi may be same... but going to

Macan S is farrrr better than the x3, from the interior, seats, and they're quite fun to hoon, sport + sends 80% of power on the rear wheels. I rode it as a passenger many times in my uncle's, such a fun car and very comfortable.

Right. That’s kind of the point. And bmw is somewhat blacklisted as she doesn’t really like that brand as mentioned. life

[max225]

Back to the question at hand... here are all the front runners:

EVs:
ID4 (big maybe... but the price point of 50k+ and the lack of want from everyone makes it unappealing)
I3 (if prices move below 25k... approaching quickly)
M3 (if there are new incentives and price moves)
MY (if there are new incentives and price moves)
MX (if used prices move below 6 figures)

Non EVs:
GLC43 20+ once prices move below NEW for CPO
SQ5 21+ once prices move below 50k for CPO
Macan S 21+ once prices move below NEW for CPO
Cayenne 20+ once prices return to normal... (getting there quick)

I guess I am back to the waiting game here...

Anything else I am missing... I just added the Macan as it's an interesting vehicle for the woman/myself.

So apparently the sq5 and the macan is the same car … I guess I’m not too surprised here. if it’s worth a 30-50% price premium tho

[D Griff]

Back to the question at hand... here are all the front runners:

EVs:
ID4 (big maybe... but the price point of 50k+ and the lack of want from everyone makes it unappealing)
I3 (if prices move below 25k... approaching quickly)
M3 (if there are new incentives and price moves)
MY (if there are new incentives and price moves)
MX (if used prices move below 6 figures)

Non EVs:
GLC43 20+ once prices move below NEW for CPO
SQ5 21+ once prices move below 50k for CPO
Macan S 21+ once prices move below NEW for CPO
Cayenne 20+ once prices return to normal... (getting there quick)

I guess I am back to the waiting game here...

Anything else I am missing... I just added the Macan as it's an interesting vehicle for the woman/myself.

So apparently the sq5 and the macan is the same car … I guess I’m not too surprised here. if it’s worth a 30-50% price premium tho

I'm not really a Porsche Koolaid drinker by any means but IIRC there are some significant differences while they do indeed share a platform. I recall hearing on Smoking Tire Podcast that they're built in different factories and the Porsche quality standards in manufacturing are significantly different/higher.

Still, I don't know that I'd pay it either, Audi quality is good enough for me I assume both of those cars are a depreciation nightmare.

[Valkyrie]

I thought that the Macan was smaller all around, more like the size of a Golf?

[max225]

I thought that the Macan was smaller all around, more like the size of a Golf?

184” nope same chassis and engines as the Audi. However Porsche gets the pdk.

[max225]

So apparently the sq5 and the macan is the same car … I guess I’m not too surprised here. if it’s worth a 30-50% price premium tho

I'm not really a Porsche Koolaid drinker by any means but IIRC there are some significant differences while they do indeed share a platform. I recall hearing on Smoking Tire Podcast that they're built in different factories and the Porsche quality standards in manufacturing are significantly different/higher.

Still, I don't know that I'd pay it either, Audi quality is good enough for me I assume both of those cars are a depreciation nightmare.

Poorsche is made by aryans and the Audi is made by s

[max225]

https://www.porschemarin.com/used-Mill+ ... 50MLB04692

So here is the “front” runner at the moment.
+ all the right options
+ 18” wheels which are impossible to find on Macans as they go as large as 21”
+2 year extra warranty
+should be cheap enough to maintain due to gti powertrain

-baby dick gti engine, maybe slow as balls “for a Porsche”

[Valkyrie]

I thought that the Macan was smaller all around, more like the size of a Golf?

184” nope same chassis and engines as the Audi. However Porsche gets the pdk.

Do you actually want a DCT?

[max225]

184” nope same chassis and engines as the Audi. However Porsche gets the pdk.

Do you actually want a DCT?

to be honest. But it may be a little more “fun” I wasn’t a huuuuuge fan of the sq5 driving experience maybe the macan will be better here ? It will be a shared car but both and I gotta enjoy it.

[Valkyrie]

I thought that you didn't like the roughness of DCT's but I don't remember for sure. It also depends on implementation, hopefully Porsche made it smooth at parking lot speeds.

[max225]

I thought that you didn't like the roughness of DCT's but I don't remember for sure. It also depends on implementation, hopefully Porsche made it smooth at parking lot speeds.

My m3 was shit. The tdi weird at points also… the b8.5 S4 seemed good. The mk7.5 gti seemed good as well.

Seems application dependent. But I really . Have never driven a macan so I can’t say.

[D Griff]

https://www.porschemarin.com/used-Mill+ ... 50MLB04692

So here is the “front” runner at the moment.
+ all the right options
+ 18” wheels which are impossible to find on Macans as they go as large as 21”
+2 year extra warranty
+should be cheap enough to maintain due to gti powertrain

-baby dick gti engine, maybe slow as balls “for a Porsche”

That's an expensive

It's not a bad route though, seems like a nice car.

[Valkyrie]

https://www.porschemarin.com/used-Mill+ ... 50MLB04692

So here is the “front” runner at the moment.
+ all the right options
+ 18” wheels which are impossible to find on Macans as they go as large as 21”
+2 year extra warranty
+should be cheap enough to maintain due to gti powertrain

-baby dick gti engine, maybe slow as balls “for a Porsche”

That's an expensive

That's my actual take on the Macan/Q5, but I know that I am because reasons.

[max225]

https://www.porschemarin.com/used-Mill+ ... 50MLB04692

So here is the “front” runner at the moment.
+ all the right options
+ 18” wheels which are impossible to find on Macans as they go as large as 21”
+2 year extra warranty
+should be cheap enough to maintain due to gti powertrain

-baby dick gti engine, maybe slow as balls “for a Porsche”

That's an expensive

It's not a bad route though, seems like a nice car.

Golf R is around 45k minimum … (if you can get one without mark up) and is technically faster and has way more power. But the macan is way more DD worthy imo.

[CaleDeRoo]

The Porsche and Audi aren't on VW platforms either. They're on longitudinal platforms designed for the premium brands.

100hp difference between that and a SQ5

I'm sure BAEZN won't care.