COVID-19: the aftermath

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When your claim is that the scientific method doesn't work (and you have not proposed a better replacement), there's no point in further discussion.
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Valkyrie wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 1:45 pm When your claim is that the scientific method doesn't work (and you have not proposed a better replacement), there's no point in further discussion.
I have not claimed that. This is A red herring. In fact, i DO think it works quite well my argument would be its not being adhered to.
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https://www.eugyppius.com/p/welt-report ... vidence-of
Welt report uncovers evidence of serious irregularities in the Pfizer phase 3 Comirnaty trial, suggesting systematic attempts to cover up adverse events at the Argentine clinical site

https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland ... tudie.html


Welt finds other irregularities in data from the the Argentine clinical site as well. Following the first dose at the end of August, they removed 53 trial participants; internal documents give nothing but vague, contradictory excuses for the purge. Following the second dose, Buenos Aires researchers removed a further 200 participants – two-thirds of all removals across the entire trial.

Irregularities appear to extend beyond the shady Buenos Aires operation. As a friend notes on Twitter, the fact that there were more deaths in the vaccine than the placebo arm of the Pfizer trial has always been considered an awkward coincidence by the fact checkers. Upon closer examination, though, it begins to look like deaths from severe vaccine injuries were actually what put the vaccine arm over the top:
[Pharmacology expert and head of the “Data Based Medicine” network and the vaccine injury support organisation React-19] David Healy has … questions about the trial beyond the Augusto Roux case and other events at Buenos Aires. He wonders about a total of 21 vaccine group deaths that are said to be “not due to vaccination.” In at least two of these deaths, this conclusion doesn’t seem to be fully justified. WELT has documents showing that patient No. 11621327 was found dead in his home three days after the second dose, apparently a stroke. Patient No. 11521497 died 20 days after vaccination, diagnosed with cardiac arrest. “According to the current understandings, these two cases would be attributed to vaccination,” says Berlin-based pharmaceutical specialist Susanne Wagner, “especially since the US health authority CDC is currently investigating strokes in vaccinated people and it is known that blood clots can trigger sudden deaths following vaccination.”
what do we want?

indictments!

when do we want them?

fucking yesterday.
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A guy at work died last week, 44 y/o - heart attack.. recently boosted
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Tar wrote: Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:59 pm A guy at work died last week, 44 y/o - heart attack.. recently boosted
big sad. so terrible that this is happening.
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do you bois like the scared liberal rag that you leaned on endlessly in 2020 to validate your opinions as a source?


https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/21/opin ... -work.html
The Mask Mandates Did Nothing. Will Any Lessons Be Learned?
Feb. 21, 2023
Those skeptics who were furiously mocked as cranks and occasionally censored as “misinformers” for opposing mandates were right. The mainstream experts and pundits who supported mandates were wrong. In a better world, it would behoove the latter group to acknowledge their error, along with its considerable physical, psychological, pedagogical and political costs.

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There’s a final lesson. The last justification for masks is that, even if they proved to be ineffective, they seemed like a relatively low-cost, intuitively effective way of doing something against the virus in the early days of the pandemic. But “do something” is not science, and it shouldn’t have been public policy. And the people who had the courage to say as much deserved to be listened to, not treated with contempt. They may not ever get the apology they deserve, but vindication ought to be enough.
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I'm here and waiting for my fucking apology you cucks.
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And you're fucked, sadly we all are.

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Old news. Snopes from May 22? We'll see.

Your post with a bunch of bought articles is predicted, if you do lose your sovereignty, you'll know who to blame.
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Tar wrote: Sat Feb 25, 2023 3:40 pm
Old news. Snopes from May 22? We'll see.

Your post with a bunch of bought articles is predicted, if you do lose your sovereignty, you'll know who to blame.
The articles were from last year because the WHO meeting in question took place last May. It was after that that these :caspian: rumors started, partly thanks to national treasure and nutjob Michele Bachman.

Oh, and that Gateway Pundit site?
https://www.politifact.com/personalitie ... ay-pundit/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gateway_Pundit
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wap wrote: Sat Feb 25, 2023 5:27 pm
Tar wrote: Sat Feb 25, 2023 3:40 pm

Old news. Snopes from May 22? We'll see.

Your post with a bunch of bought articles is predicted, if you do lose your sovereignty, you'll know who to blame.
The articles were from last year because the WHO meeting in question took place last May. It was after that that these :caspian: rumors started, partly thanks to national treasure and nutjob Michele Bachman.

Oh, and that Gateway Pundit site?
https://www.politifact.com/personalitie ... ay-pundit/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gateway_Pundit
We'll see soon enough, if I am wrong to believe it then I'll own it, unlike others fighting the good battle here.
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Tar wrote: Sat Feb 25, 2023 7:57 pm
wap wrote: Sat Feb 25, 2023 5:27 pm
The articles were from last year because the WHO meeting in question took place last May. It was after that that these :caspian: rumors started, partly thanks to national treasure and nutjob Michele Bachman.

Oh, and that Gateway Pundit site?
https://www.politifact.com/personalitie ... ay-pundit/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gateway_Pundit
We'll see soon enough, if I am wrong to believe it then I'll own it, unlike others fighting the good battle here.
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Tar wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2023 3:39 pm @brad:

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/cong ... 9-vaccines
Good! unfortunately it will be just as effective as a typical Congressional hearing I fear: not at all. I hope I am wrong
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Tar wrote: Sat Feb 25, 2023 3:40 pm
Old news. Snopes from May 22? We'll see.

Your post with a bunch of bought articles is predicted, if you do lose your sovereignty, you'll know who to blame.
predicable that :wap: comes in here and posts a bunch of propaganda.

Still won't address being a dick or apologize for demonizing those of us that were right about all the pandemic fuckery. Until he does fuck him and everyone else like him.
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golftdibrad1 wrote: Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:03 pm
Tar wrote: Sat Feb 25, 2023 3:40 pm

Old news. Snopes from May 22? We'll see.

Your post with a bunch of bought articles is predicted, if you do lose your sovereignty, you'll know who to blame.
predicable that :wap: comes in here and posts a bunch of propaganda.

Still won't address being a dick or apologize for demonizing those of us that were right about all the pandemic fuckery. Until he does fuck him and everyone else like him.
I told him that I'm big enough to admit that I'm :wrong: , not sure he can do that. The last three years has been a shit show, with useless lock downs and mandates, yet those who supported it are quiet little church mice now that we are all living with the same fucking vaccine rates and virus floating around. The only thing that stopped this virus was natural immunity, and a blind fucking bat can see that. It's embarrassing that they can't admit that the trillions spent are in vane, sad really, and it means we need to go down this same road again in a few years.
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Tar wrote: Sun Feb 26, 2023 2:14 pm
golftdibrad1 wrote: Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:03 pm

predicable that :wap: comes in here and posts a bunch of propaganda.

Still won't address being a dick or apologize for demonizing those of us that were right about all the pandemic fuckery. Until he does fuck him and everyone else like him.
I told him that I'm big enough to admit that I'm :wrong: , not sure he can do that. The last three years has been a shit show, with useless lock downs and mandates, yet those who supported it are quiet little church mice now that we are all living with the same fucking vaccine rates and virus floating around. The only thing that stopped this virus was natural immunity, and a blind fucking bat can see that. It's embarrassing that they can't admit that the trillions spent are in vane, sad really, and it means we need to go down this same road again in a few years.
Agree.

also admitting when you are wrong is so important for community; for example I initially thought the so called vaccines would be a net benefit to help us get out of this, or at least do no harm. I trusted our institutions to have our safety in mind. I thought 'well, even if they don't work they would never let it stay on the market if a safety issue comes up.' I told people this and encouraged them to look into getting the shot so we could at least say we tried and put this whole covid thing behind us.

Boy was I :wrong: (See what I did there, wap, et al? is it so fucking hard?) And then the gov kept doubling down on the vax and the data kept coming in that it didn't work and was dangerous. And they wanted the lockdowns and the masking to continue.

Welp, 'No' is a complete sentence moving forward, backed by my 1st amendment right; and my 2nd one if necessary.

But they will never apologize because it's against their religion on the left. Its one of the pillars of web 5.0 shit is that history can get edited on the fly and provide the plebian followers validation that they were never wrong, that we were always at war with euroasia. (I should really flesh this idea out as a longer article!)

I welcome any sincere apology that comes my way from past friends over this covid shit. It probably won't be enough rekindle those friendships, but perhaps they can be laid to rest in peace vs in pieces.
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golftdibrad1 wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:16 am
Tar wrote: Sun Feb 26, 2023 2:14 pm

I told him that I'm big enough to admit that I'm :wrong: , not sure he can do that. The last three years has been a shit show, with useless lock downs and mandates, yet those who supported it are quiet little church mice now that we are all living with the same fucking vaccine rates and virus floating around. The only thing that stopped this virus was natural immunity, and a blind fucking bat can see that. It's embarrassing that they can't admit that the trillions spent are in vane, sad really, and it means we need to go down this same road again in a few years.
Agree.

also admitting when you are wrong is so important for community; for example I initially thought the so called vaccines would be a net benefit to help us get out of this, or at least do no harm. I trusted our institutions to have our safety in mind. I thought 'well, even if they don't work they would never let it stay on the market if a safety issue comes up.' I told people this and encouraged them to look into getting the shot so we could at least say we tried and put this whole covid thing behind us.

Boy was I :wrong: (See what I did there, wap, et al? is it so fucking hard?) And then the gov kept doubling down on the vax and the data kept coming in that it didn't work and was dangerous. And they wanted the lockdowns and the masking to continue.

Welp, 'No' is a complete sentence moving forward, backed by my 1st amendment right; and my 2nd one if necessary.

But they will never apologize because it's against their religion on the left. Its one of the pillars of web 5.0 shit is that history can get edited on the fly and provide the plebian followers validation that they were never wrong, that we were always at war with euroasia. (I should really flesh this idea out as a longer article!)

I welcome any sincere apology that comes my way from past friends over this covid shit. It probably won't be enough rekindle those friendships, but perhaps they can be laid to rest in peace vs in pieces.
There won't be any apologies obviously, so fuck them.
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rant:

And on another note, how is it even POSSIBLE, that these caulk-eyed motherfuckers don't even ask the financial questions? We doubled our national debt over this charade, and you can be assured that a huge chunk of that money was spent on over-inflated 'COVID' related BS that left room for kick-backs. Bunch of greedy fucks raped the system.

I'm not even getting into the massive number of healthy young people that died from side effects of the vaccines. A guy at work our age just died of heart failure after a booster, like a good boy he got a booster a few days prior. He leaves behind a wife and baby girl. When my heart was acting up after my FIRST shot, I drove home from work for a few days wondering if I'd ever see my boys again. It was the saddest fucking thing... I can empathize with that guy's family, it's a loss they'll never fully recover from.

The old fucks with minimal immune response get off easy, they can have their shot and it should supposedly protect them from this latest itineration of the flu, great stuff, go for it! But that wasn't enough. They demanded that every young person get this experimental garbage, and the government was more then happy to buy 3, 4, then 5 fucking boosters for every citizen alive... Why not, they all get rich from the kickbacks, amirite??! Fuck them for not spending two half seconds thinking about where all this money went. Fuck them for not feeling any remorse for the 1200% uptick in athlete heart failures on the pitch, bunch of selfish fucks.

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I'm sure I'm not the only one sitting on the sidelines just fed up to the brim, any more of this shit in my lifetime and there will be a new, more combative version of people that feel the way I do. The elite fucks probably already know this, Tru-doh dropped the mandates like a bad habit when convoys rolled into Ottawa. They will take it as far as they can, but know they are outmanned and stop somewhere between 'rob them blind' and 'shit, they're coming'. We all learned from these lockdowns and "emergency mandates".
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Tar wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:01 am rant:

And on another note, how is it even POSSIBLE, that these caulk-eyed motherfuckers don't even ask the financial questions? We doubled our national debt over this charade, and you can be assured that a huge chunk of that money was spent on over-inflated 'COVID' related BS that left room for kick-backs. Bunch of greedy fucks raped the system.

I'm not even getting into the massive number of healthy young people that died from side effects of the vaccines. A guy at work our age just died of heart failure after a booster, like a good boy he got a booster a few days prior. He leaves behind a wife and baby girl. When my heart was acting up after my FIRST shot, I drove home from work for a few days wondering if I'd ever see my boys again. It was the saddest fucking thing... I can empathize with that guy's family, it's a loss they'll never fully recover from.

The old fucks with minimal immune response get off easy, they can have their shot and it should supposedly protect them from this latest itineration of the flu, great stuff, go for it! But that wasn't enough. They demanded that every young person get this experimental garbage, and the government was more then happy to buy 3, 4, then 5 fucking boosters for every citizen alive... Why not, they all get rich from the kickbacks, amirite??! Fuck them for not spending two half seconds thinking about where all this money went. Fuck them for not feeling any remorse for the 1200% uptick in athlete heart failures on the pitch, bunch of selfish fucks.

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5/7 rant will read again.

It is sad what they have done. Almost no one is talking about it. All cause death is still elevated, births are down, unemployment remains stubbornly low despite indications it should be otherwise. I think the gov is cooking the books there too because with so many dying disabilities and people unable to work must be up as well.

It really is sad. Covid might have been a test for future global warming shit, and we failed miserably.
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Woody made a joke no one liked, because its true.

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GAME OVER: Medicare data shows the COVID vaccines increase your risk of dying

This is why the CDC has NEVER used the Medicare data to prove the vaccines are safe. And this is why NOBODY in mainstream medicine wants you to see this data. EVER. They ALL want it hidden. FOREVER.
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https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/p/on-stupidity

'In 1943, the Lutheran pastor and member of the German resistance, Dietrich Bonhoeffer, was arrested and incarcerated in Tegel Prison. There he meditated on the question of why the German people—in spite of their vast education, culture, and intellectual achievements—had fallen so far from reason and morality. "

you should go read the whole post and all the points made by Dietrich, but these 2 are the most important:
A closer look reveals that the strong exertion of external power, be it political or religious, strikes a large part of the people with stupidity. Yes, it seems as if this is a sociological-psychological law. The power of some requires the stupidity of others. Under this influence, human abilities suddenly wither or fail, robbing people of their inner independence, which they—more or less unconsciously —renounce to adapt their behavior to the prevailing situation.

The fact that stupid people are often stubborn should not hide the fact that they are not independent. When talking to him, one feels that one is not dealing with him personally, but with catchphrases, slogans, etc. that have taken possession of him. He is under a spell; he is blinded; he is abused in his own being.
That last bit about god is just because he is a pastor. I think fear is the real driver to eliminate stupidity. Fear sucks, and to be unafraid one needs knowledge. Science makes the unknowable known thus reducing fear...until its perverted by evil or stupid men.
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https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/urg ... ave-caused

hows Nature for a source Val & wap? or is that not real science now.
URGENT: mRNAs jabs may have caused tens of millions of serious new health problems worldwide, a huge peer-reviewed study shows
Covid vaccines are linked to a 20 percent rise in new diagnoses for at least three months after vaccination; a second report finds even higher risks for people with preexisting autoimmune problems


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Serious conditions such as hypertension were about 25 percent more likely to be diagnosed in the three months following a shot than the three months before, the researchers found.

Depression, eczema, diabetes, and cellulitis were 10 to 20 percent more likely.

Myocarditis diagnoses had the highest additional risk. They were about 2.6 times as likely overall, with an even higher risk in men. Myocarditis is a known side effect of the mRNAs, so the fact it had a particularly high rate of extra diagnoses provides strong evidence that the signal the researchers found was real.

Overall, the researchers reported that the 284,000 Covid-vaccinated adults they examined received almost 6,000 additional diagnoses of health conditions in the 90 days after being jabbed compared to the 90 days before.

With about 237 million American adults vaccinated, that estimate would translate into about 5 million extra diagnoses for problems like diabetes in the three months following the shots. Worldwide, the number could be up to 25 million.
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We have seriously fucked up as a country.
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