Car Talk 6: Best of times and Worst of Times

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max225 wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 11:40 am
D Griff wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 11:23 am

Ford GT was a very low production car. Also, if you bought a Ford GT and drove it every week, you'd still be way up, likely just as much as one that literally has to now remain wrapped in plastic indefinitely.

My point is, buying a new car and sticking it in a shed is fucking dumb, you have a tiny, tiny chance of being the guy smart enough to pick something that beats inflation, let alone the market and even then, you lose very, very little value by actually driving the car.

If this Firebird had 40K miles on it and was still pretty much mint, it would've still gone for $50K+ in my estimation. May as well have enjoyed it all that time rather than jacking off to the plastic wrapped seats.
My point is money spent wisely on cars goes a long way also. You’re :notwrong: about sticking a fireturd in a garage and expecting gold to form.

I linked it mainly for nostalgia not investment. I haven’t seen a mint F body in 20 years.

It was my dream car in high school and it looks like someone saved one for someone willing to take the plunge. If I had a bigger garage and the price wasn’t that atrocious I may have even considered it
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Johnny_P wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:21 pm Earn it and burn it, Val.
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D Griff wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 11:23 am
max225 wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:14 am

Now do the same with a Ford GT.

Not every “investment” goes up … it has to be right. Just like the right House in the right hood … Toledo Ohio ain’t looking too hot either
Ford GT was a very low production car. Also, if you bought a Ford GT and drove it every week, you'd still be way up, likely just as much as one that literally has to now remain wrapped in plastic indefinitely.

My point is, buying a new car and sticking it in a shed is fucking dumb, you have a tiny, tiny chance of being the guy smart enough to pick something that beats inflation, let alone the market and even then, you lose very, very little value by actually driving the car.

If this Firebird had 40K miles on it and was still pretty much mint, it would've still gone for $50K+ in my estimation. May as well have enjoyed it all that time rather than jacking off on the plastic wrapped seats.
Fixed.
Detroit wrote:Buy 911s instead of diamonds.
Johnny_P wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:21 pm Earn it and burn it, Val.
max225 wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 5:35 pm Yes it's a cool car. But prepare the lube/sawdust.
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Desertbreh wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 2:01 pm
D Griff wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 11:23 am

Ford GT was a very low production car. Also, if you bought a Ford GT and drove it every week, you'd still be way up, likely just as much as one that literally has to now remain wrapped in plastic indefinitely.

My point is, buying a new car and sticking it in a shed is fucking dumb, you have a tiny, tiny chance of being the guy smart enough to pick something that beats inflation, let alone the market and even then, you lose very, very little value by actually driving the car.

If this Firebird had 40K miles on it and was still pretty much mint, it would've still gone for $50K+ in my estimation. May as well have enjoyed it all that time rather than jacking off on the plastic wrapped seats.
Fixed.
The devil is in the details, breh, nicely done.
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D Griff wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 3:35 pm
Desertbreh wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 2:01 pm

Fixed.
The devil is in the details, breh, nicely done.
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Johnny_P wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:21 pm Earn it and burn it, Val.
max225 wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 5:35 pm Yes it's a cool car. But prepare the lube/sawdust.
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Desertbreh wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 2:01 pm
D Griff wrote: Fri Nov 03, 2023 11:23 am

Ford GT was a very low production car. Also, if you bought a Ford GT and drove it every week, you'd still be way up, likely just as much as one that literally has to now remain wrapped in plastic indefinitely.

My point is, buying a new car and sticking it in a shed is fucking dumb, you have a tiny, tiny chance of being the guy smart enough to pick something that beats inflation, let alone the market and even then, you lose very, very little value by actually driving the car.

If this Firebird had 40K miles on it and was still pretty much mint, it would've still gone for $50K+ in my estimation. May as well have enjoyed it all that time rather than jacking off on the plastic wrapped seats.
Fixed.
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Not sure where to post it... but this is "car related"

My buddy who was just over last friday just had some shit luck. He got rear ended that day by an old geezer who refused to acknowledge that his crown vic caused damage to his 2018 Kia Soul...

This morning it got stolen from his street... already involved in a crime. Will update more.

Another reason to avoid H if you live in higher crime/urban areas.... they are huge targets for theft here.
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Damn. Don't get the base model is the lesson I guess?
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 3:34 pm Damn. Don't get the base model is the lesson I guess?
Not sure why the trim would matter… he also got some sort of software patch that supposedly made it “harder to steal” …

I have never known anyone in my 20 years in Cali that had their car stolen. Will document more of the process
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max225 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 3:41 pm
CaleDeRoo wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 3:34 pm Damn. Don't get the base model is the lesson I guess?
Not sure why the trim would matter… he also got some sort of software patch that supposedly made it “harder to steal” …

I have never known anyone in my 20 years in Cali that had their car stolen. Will document more of the process
From what I understand the push button start ones are significantly more theft proof. Although anyone could potentially copy the frequency if they keep their keys too close to the door or whatever.
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 5:03 pm
max225 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 3:41 pm

Not sure why the trim would matter… he also got some sort of software patch that supposedly made it “harder to steal” …

I have never known anyone in my 20 years in Cali that had their car stolen. Will document more of the process
From what I understand the push button start ones are significantly more theft proof. Although anyone could potentially copy the frequency if they keep their keys too close to the door or whatever.
Confirmed not push button.
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max225 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 5:44 pm
CaleDeRoo wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 5:03 pm

From what I understand the push button start ones are significantly more theft proof. Although anyone could potentially copy the frequency if they keep their keys too close to the door or whatever.
Confirmed not push button.
The push button cars came with immobilizers but the non push button cars did not. I'd have to imagine thieves are looking inside prior to attempting to steal them.
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I got several recall notices to bring mine in to get the security upgrade from Hyundai. Never bothered with it
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SAWCE wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:31 pm I got several recall notices to bring mine in to get the security upgrade from Hyundai. Never bothered with it
:tits: never got one for her Sonata but it has push button start and, presumably, an immobilizer.
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SAWCE wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:31 pm I got several recall notices to bring mine in to get the security upgrade from Hyundai. Never bothered with it
The mayor is giving some compensation for anyone that owns hyundais in dc cause it seems to be a common theft car in the nations capital. But my coworkers drive hyundai's and he also had none of the problems and where I work is a little sketchy (loiterers) for the most part
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I've heard some insurance companies won't even offer policies to certain slanty H/KbackwardsN cars because the thefts are so common. It has been reported that the push button ones are significantly lower risk.

Pretty wild... these brands made so much progress and yet aren't 100% there yet in a number of ways :ohwell:
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I also saw the news etc … and every time there is a crime of sorts it’s some sort of H in the background… now it’s hitting closer to home.
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DWS tires are pretty darn nice
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I’m planning on going with the DWS over the Michelins this time around.
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 7:04 pm New :225:

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Are those the latest version 06+ or whatever?
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 7:04 pm New :225:

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For the Audi?
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wap wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 9:15 pm
CaleDeRoo wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 7:04 pm New :225:

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Are those the latest version 06+ or whatever?
They are the 06+
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D Griff wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 9:31 am
CaleDeRoo wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 7:04 pm New :225:

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For the Audi?
Yes but the BBS don't clear the calipers so waiting on spacers. I figured this would be the case though.



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That's going to be hot!

I had DWS on the 328i for a minute, they were pretty dece, I think they somehow wound up at breh's house in CA via Alan in LA.

I think when I wear out the Michelins on the 86 I'll go +10-20 MM and go back to the Azenis but try the 660 model. I dig grip.
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 10:05 am
wap wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 9:15 pm
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Are those the latest version 06+ or whatever?
They are the 06+
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In4impressions. I want to get these when it's time to replace Derplops on the Blue Meanie. I liked the OG DWS's on my Mk6 and these are supposedly a noticeable upgrade.
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