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Car talk tré
Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 11:19 am
by ChrisoftheNorth
Johnny_P wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 11:18 am
Detroit wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 11:16 am
Finding a $15k Cayman is the hard part, and then selling it again for $15k will be immensely difficult wading through all the people asking for records, etc. Yes it will sell for $15k eventually, but it'll be a hassle dealing with the
Selling my $7k 951 was ridiculous.
But I know I'm
and it's #fakenews.
Sell it to carmax for maximum
This is not the worst idea.
Car talk tré: Poorsche Premiums
Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 11:21 am
by Johnny_P
fledonfoot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:22 pm
Johnny_P wrote: ↑Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:16 pm
I love me some RX8. I really want a Miata doe. Drop top and all. For the muggings and bus exhaust fumes and fuck my ear drums.
I want my FR-S back.
I'd be curious for back to back comparos but [user not found]'s modded-to-hell NC seemed to ride better than the stock BRZ I test drove. I mean it should though, better suspension design. The legless-child seat of the BRZ is kinda nice though.
Re: Car talk tré
Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 11:24 am
by troyguitar
Detroit wrote:troyguitar wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 11:13 am
If you don't pay that premium up front and don't continue to pay it for
service, why would you expect to sell the car for a premium later? You know how much a $15k Cayman can depreciate? $15k. That's the same as a new
Now, buying a $40k+ 987.2S is a different story. You're locked into
service if you want to get that money back on resale... plus the car has more expensive parts on it anyway.
The spec for a 987.2S that I'd want over a basic bolt-on 987.1 is $50k and impossible to find: S in a real color with Sport Buckets (not sport seats, the $4k bucket option), LSD, Sport Chrono, PASM,
and ideally PCCB but those are just cool and not necessary. It costs double to buy and at least double to maintain, it's not really an option.
Finding a $15k Cayman is the hard part, and then selling it again for $15k will be immensely difficult wading through all the people asking for records, etc. Yes it will sell for $15k eventually, but it'll be a hassle dealing with the
Selling my $7k 951 was ridiculous.
But I know I'm
and it's #fakenews.
The idea is to expect depreciation on the $15k car because it is not special. Take the extra money that you didn't spend on
maintenance and 18" tires, PASM shocks, sales tax, annual property taxes, etc. and consider THAT savings to be worth losing $5k on the $15k car.
The difference in taxes alone probably covers the difference in depreciation.
Re: Car talk tré: Poorsche Premiums
Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 11:26 am
by troyguitar
Nobody gives a damn about front engine Porsches anyway, I'm not surprised that they're hard to sell. I'd never buy one.
Re: Car talk tré: Poorsche Premiums
Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 11:29 am
by troyguitar
[user not found] wrote:troyguitar wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 11:26 am
Nobody gives a damn about front engine Porsches anyway, I'm not surprised that they're hard to sell. I'd never buy one.
I love the 944.
Yet you bought a Miata.
Car talk tré: Poorsche Premiums
Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 11:30 am
by ChrisoftheNorth
troyguitar wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 11:26 am
Nobody gives a damn about front engine Porsches anyway, I'm not surprised that they're hard to sell. I'd never buy one.
No, no...there was ample demand. It was the hoops people wanted me to jump through with inspections, records, fixing things before delivery, etc, etc...THAT was the pain and from what I understand is unique to people looking to buy Porsches. Any Porsche.
I guess a $10k Cayman will sell to anyone with minimal effort, but it's still going to be more of a pain than selling a Corolla.
Car talk tré: Poorsche Premiums
Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 11:34 am
by Johnny_P
Detroit wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 11:30 am
troyguitar wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 11:26 am
Nobody gives a damn about front engine Porsches anyway, I'm not surprised that they're hard to sell. I'd never buy one.
No, no...there was ample demand. It was the hoops people wanted me to jump through with inspections, records, fixing things before delivery, etc, etc...THAT was the pain and from what I understand is unique to people looking to buy Porsches. Any Porsche.
I guess a $10k Cayman will sell to anyone with minimal effort, but it's still going to be more of a pain than selling a Corolla.
"Enthusiasts" have zero tolerance for paint swirls, lack of documented maintenance, DIY maintenance and fixes, etc. Whereas a $10k corolla buyer will be ecstatic they have a reliable car that gets good fuel mileage and who cares about that bird shit stain on the paint?
Re: Car talk tré: Poorsche Premiums
Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 11:49 am
by troyguitar
Detroit wrote:troyguitar wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 11:26 am
Nobody gives a damn about front engine Porsches anyway, I'm not surprised that they're hard to sell. I'd never buy one.
No, no...there was ample demand. It was the hoops people wanted me to jump through with inspections, records, fixing things before delivery, etc, etc...THAT was the pain and from what I understand is unique to people looking to buy Porsches. Any Porsche.
I guess a $10k Cayman will sell to anyone with minimal effort, but it's still going to be more of a pain than selling a Corolla.
Maybe I'm
but I don't think that the Cayman is like that. Everyone who likes great handling cars wants one, not just everyone who likes Porsches. I wish that there was a newer MR2/Fiero coupe that I could buy instead, I have no interest in paying for and displaying the Porsche badge.
It's the only DD-able semi-affordable car on the market with a proper MR layout and probably will remain that way forever.
The "Porsche guys" see 987 prices holding relatively steady and are all
because for a little bit more money you can buy a 911 - Why would you want anything but a 911?
Car talk tré: Poorsche Premiums
Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 11:57 am
by ChrisoftheNorth
troyguitar wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 11:49 am
Detroit wrote:
No, no...there was ample demand. It was the hoops people wanted me to jump through with inspections, records, fixing things before delivery, etc, etc...THAT was the pain and from what I understand is unique to people looking to buy Porsches. Any Porsche.
I guess a $10k Cayman will sell to anyone with minimal effort, but it's still going to be more of a pain than selling a Corolla.
Maybe I'm
but I don't think that the Cayman is like that. Everyone who likes great handling cars wants one, not just everyone who likes Porsches. I wish that there was a newer MR2/Fiero coupe that I could buy instead, I have no interest in paying for and displaying the Porsche badge.
It's the only DD-able semi-affordable car on the market with a proper MR layout and probably will remain that way forever.
The "Porsche guys" see 987 prices holding relatively steady and are all
because for a little bit more money you can buy a 911 - Why would you want anything but a 911?
I totally get the desire, but I just think selling one will be a monumental pain because of the badge. Though, if you're buying a $15k car and looking to sell it for $10k, it probably won't be that bad.
Car talk tré: Poorsche Premiums
Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 11:58 am
by ChrisoftheNorth
Johnny_P wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 11:34 am
Detroit wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 11:30 am
No, no...there was ample demand. It was the hoops people wanted me to jump through with inspections, records, fixing things before delivery, etc, etc...THAT was the pain and from what I understand is unique to people looking to buy Porsches. Any Porsche.
I guess a $10k Cayman will sell to anyone with minimal effort, but it's still going to be more of a pain than selling a Corolla.
"Enthusiasts" have zero tolerance for paint swirls, lack of documented maintenance, DIY maintenance and fixes, etc. Whereas a $10k corolla buyer will be ecstatic they have a reliable car that gets good fuel mileage and who cares about that bird shit stain on the paint?
Car talk tré: Poorsche Premiums
Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 1:26 pm
by wap
Car talk tré: Poorsche Premiums
Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 1:41 pm
by troyguitar
[user not found] wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 1:25 pm
troyguitar wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 11:29 am
Yet you bought a Miata.
P-tax man. I also don't wanna deal with old car problems right now.
Yeah, but who does want to deal with old car problems and Porsche tax in a water cooled 4-cylinder front engine car? That is a tiny market, especially when things like the FRZ exist to do most of the same things better.
Car talk tré: Poorsche Premiums
Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 1:47 pm
by Johnny_P
[user not found] wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 1:25 pm
troyguitar wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 11:29 am
Yet you bought a Miata.
P-tax man. I also don't wanna deal with old car problems right now.
You also work for Mazda now sooooo
Car talk tré: Poorsche Premiums
Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 1:49 pm
by Desertbreh
troyguitar wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 11:29 am
[user not found] wrote:
I love the 944.
Yet you bought a Miata.
944?
Here's a great deal!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-944-Tu ... uJ&vxp=mtr
Car talk tré: Poorsche Premiums
Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 2:37 pm
by Desertbreh
[user not found] wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 2:21 pm
Awful exterior color. Dat interior, doe.
The price is quite honestly the most insane price for a Poorshe I have ever encountered.
Car talk tré: Poorsche Premiums
Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 2:42 pm
by troyguitar
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 2:37 pm
[user not found] wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 2:21 pm
Awful exterior color. Dat interior, doe.
The price is quite honestly the most insane price for a Poorshe I have ever encountered.
I think there might be 6 figure 914's by now, dunno if that's worse.
An X1/9 which is cooler in many ways, on the other hand, is 4 figures.
Car talk tré: Poorsche Premiums
Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 2:43 pm
by Desertbreh
troyguitar wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 2:42 pm
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 2:37 pm
The price is quite honestly the most insane price for a Poorshe I have ever encountered.
I think there might be
6 figure 914's by now, dunno if that's worse.
An X1/9 which is cooler in many ways, on the other hand, is 4 figures.
WUT
Car talk tré: Poorsche Premiums
Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 2:44 pm
by Desertbreh
I love the 944 in all forms, I just think the low mileage ones priced like a very nice used Carrera S is just
Car talk tré: Poorsche Premiums
Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 2:45 pm
by Apex
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 2:43 pm
troyguitar wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 2:42 pm
I think there might be
6 figure 914's by now, dunno if that's worse.
An X1/9 which is cooler in many ways, on the other hand, is 4 figures.
WUT
Numbers matching, original 914-6 I could see getting up there.
Car talk tré: Poorsche Premiums
Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 2:47 pm
by Desertbreh
Car talk tré: Poorsche Premiums
Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 2:51 pm
by Desertbreh
TRIBUTE 914-6.......not that nice,
https://www.ebay.com/itm/914-6-Tribute/ ... Zz&vxp=mtr
Guy wants $55K. My inner Max is
Car talk tré: Poorsche Premiums
Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 3:01 pm
by troyguitar
[user not found] wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 2:50 pm
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 2:44 pm
I love the 944 in all forms, I just think the low mileage ones priced like a very nice used Carrera S is just
I hate vehicle speculation in general anymore.
Just makes people
about driving a car.
It's another reason not to spend the extra
on a perfect 987.2S, NSX, GT3, etc. with resale value as the means of affording it... the more you drive the thing, the less likely you are to get that money back. I want a car that I can drive 15k miles a year without blowing $5k+ in depreciation+maintenance per year.
Car talk tré: Poorsche Premiums
Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 4:02 pm
by Davestr
Nice car. Not a great price as with 25000 more mileages its back into the 30'/40's $$
Car talk tré: Poorsche Premiums
Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 4:30 pm
by wap
Car talk tré: Poorsche Premiums
Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 8:08 am
by Johnny_P
