I hear the Ridgelines drive extremely well.
This could be an intriguing truck, and it seems like other manufacturers are looking at jumping into the cheap unibody truck game. Ford has their version in the works, and VW had that interesting concept last year.
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Have you seen it though.... it’s flipping hideous (ridgeline)Huckleberry wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 11:08 am I hear the Ridgelines drive extremely well.
This could be an intriguing truck, and it seems like other manufacturers are looking at jumping into the cheap unibody truck game. Ford has their version in the works, and VW had that interesting concept last year.
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That's why I think the Hyundai thing has huge potential. Fix the minivan front styling and it could be a really compelling unibody pickup.max225 wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 11:21 amHave you seen it though.... it’s flipping hideous (ridgeline)Huckleberry wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 11:08 am I hear the Ridgelines drive extremely well.
This could be an intriguing truck, and it seems like other manufacturers are looking at jumping into the cheap unibody truck game. Ford has their version in the works, and VW had that interesting concept last year.
Unibody vehicles can off road just as well as a stock TuRD Taco if they're setup to.
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Let’s not forget our lord and savior XJ is unibody
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I don’t see the ridgeline vs taco advantage due to the frame sitch... I mean the taco is about the same weight ... has about the same power, close to the same price. It’s more like a preference at this point. The ridgeswine probably gets better mpg but it is also wrong wheel drive
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Yep, and RWD with stick axles.
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FWD based AWD can be just as good off road, it just needs to be tuned for it. Ridgeline isn't, but it's got to be a vastly better driving vehicle on the road. Noise, efficiency, handling, it's top in the midsize truck class for that.max225 wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 11:38 am I don’t see the ridgeline vs taco advantage due to the frame sitch... I mean the taco is about the same weight ... has about the same power, close to the same price. It’s more like a preference at this point. The ridgeswine probably gets better mpg but it is also wrong wheel drive
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I agree. It looks awful, and the fact that they molded a fake divide between the "cab" and "bed" is hilarious. However, I do hear that they drive nice, but I haven't personally verified. I have driven the 2015+ Taco before and it was rather "meh." Neither the Ridgeline nor the Taco are on the list of vehicles I would like to own.max225 wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 11:21 amHave you seen it though.... it’s flipping hideous (ridgeline)Huckleberry wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 11:08 am I hear the Ridgelines drive extremely well.
This could be an intriguing truck, and it seems like other manufacturers are looking at jumping into the cheap unibody truck game. Ford has their version in the works, and VW had that interesting concept last year.
I agree with Detroit that the Santa Cruz could be intriguing if done correctly. Personally, I'd like to see VW's Tarok come to fruition. That would be a cool truck with the GTI's powertrain and AWD.
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road/noise/handlingDetroit wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 11:42 amFWD based AWD can be just as good off road, it just needs to be tuned for it. Ridgeline isn't, but it's got to be a vastly better driving vehicle on the road. Noise, efficiency, handling, it's top in the midsize truck class for that.max225 wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 11:38 am I don’t see the ridgeline vs taco advantage due to the frame sitch... I mean the taco is about the same weight ... has about the same power, close to the same price. It’s more like a preference at this point. The ridgeswine probably gets better mpg but it is also wrong wheel drive
Hmm I didn't think it was that far off ... maybe compared to like a raised jeep... but to a stock taco ? Meh... that thing was pretty damn refined. Efficiency without question. I would wager to say the taco is the least efficient truck in the segment. is the reason it is getting 16/20 mpg same as a house of a ram with 2 more cylinders and 150 more hp.
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+1 on a VAG I am somewhat curious but then I think about what I'd like to do with it... and the whole turbo/sensors/finicky VAG crap goes out the window real quick.Huckleberry wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 11:45 amI agree. It looks awful, and the fact that they molded a fake divide between the "cab" and "bed" is hilarious. However, I do hear that they drive nice, but I haven't personally verified. I have driven the 2015+ Taco before and it was rather "meh." Neither the Ridgeline nor the Taco are on the list of vehicles I would like to own.
I agree with Detroit that the Santa Cruz could be intriguing if done correctly. Personally, I'd like to see VW's Tarok come to fruition. That would be a cool truck with the GTI's powertrain and AWD.
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Its got a lot going for it really. Huge interior for the class, great storage, great ride and handling, great motor, locked trunk under the bed, etc. The only things I'm not fond of are the looks (minivan face especially) and the spare tire access being through the locked trunk under the bed. If you have a loaded bed and get a flat you're in for some shit, lol. That's a scenario though.Detroit wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 10:57 amJohnny_P wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 9:12 am
Depends on what you want to do with it. If just hauling mountain bikes, kayaks, and camping gear this will do it while driving better and getting far better fuel mileage.
Won’t even be close to a taco off road. It’s competing more with the ridgeline.
I like it. I also like the ridgeline but think it looks like a minivan. If they can keep the minivan look away from it they could have a winner.
I'd also rather have a Ridgeline than a Taco.
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I'll be shocked if VW produces a pickup for north america.
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It was more appealing when VW still had the 6/72 bumper-bumper warranty at the time of the concept's debut.max225 wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 11:46 am+1 on a VAG I am somewhat curious but then I think about what I'd like to do with it... and the whole turbo/sensors/finicky VAG crap goes out the window real quick.Huckleberry wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 11:45 am
I agree. It looks awful, and the fact that they molded a fake divide between the "cab" and "bed" is hilarious. However, I do hear that they drive nice, but I haven't personally verified. I have driven the 2015+ Taco before and it was rather "meh." Neither the Ridgeline nor the Taco are on the list of vehicles I would like to own.
I agree with Detroit that the Santa Cruz could be intriguing if done correctly. Personally, I'd like to see VW's Tarok come to fruition. That would be a cool truck with the GTI's powertrain and AWD.
The most interesting thing to me is the ability to get a full 6' bed when needed.
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http://www.fuelly.com/car/honda/ridgeline
Ridgeline looks like 20mpg average
http://www.fuelly.com/car/toyota/tacoma
Tacoma looks like 18-18.5 so... relatively close... Honestly... I don't see the ridgeline thing at all... I can't think of a use case. Uglier, can tow less, depreciates more. On the flip side, i suppose more space etc but at that point you can go full size truck and it obliterates a ridgeline in ride quality and NVH.
Ridgeline looks like 20mpg average
http://www.fuelly.com/car/toyota/tacoma
Tacoma looks like 18-18.5 so... relatively close... Honestly... I don't see the ridgeline thing at all... I can't think of a use case. Uglier, can tow less, depreciates more. On the flip side, i suppose more space etc but at that point you can go full size truck and it obliterates a ridgeline in ride quality and NVH.
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You can always get a warranty to 100k for what... 2k? when buying new... That seems like a near non issue.Huckleberry wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 11:52 amIt was more appealing when VW still had the 6/72 bumper-bumper warranty at the time of the concept's debut.
The most interesting thing to me is the ability to get a full 6' bed when needed.
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Full size trucks are just so freaking massive. Zero interest.max225 wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 11:53 am http://www.fuelly.com/car/honda/ridgeline
Ridgeline looks like 20mpg average
http://www.fuelly.com/car/toyota/tacoma
Tacoma looks like 18-18.5 so... relatively close... Honestly... I don't see the ridgeline thing at all... I can't think of a use case. Uglier, can tow less, depreciates more. On the flip side, i suppose more space etc but at that point you can go full size truck and it obliterates a ridgeline in ride quality and NVH.
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A ridgeline is pretty big too...Detroit wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 11:58 amFull size trucks are just so freaking massive. Zero interest.max225 wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 11:53 am http://www.fuelly.com/car/honda/ridgeline
Ridgeline looks like 20mpg average
http://www.fuelly.com/car/toyota/tacoma
Tacoma looks like 18-18.5 so... relatively close... Honestly... I don't see the ridgeline thing at all... I can't think of a use case. Uglier, can tow less, depreciates more. On the flip side, i suppose more space etc but at that point you can go full size truck and it obliterates a ridgeline in ride quality and NVH.
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Ridgeline should get better fuel economy, likely only marginal though.max225 wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 11:38 am I don’t see the ridgeline vs taco advantage due to the frame sitch... I mean the taco is about the same weight ... has about the same power, close to the same price. It’s more like a preference at this point. The ridgeswine probably gets better mpg but it is also wrong wheel drive
Full time AWD is likely better for most people most of the time than manually selectable RWD/4WD systems. The latter obviously superior for off roading.
Ridgeline has coil spring independent rear suspension. So it will guaranteed drive better on normal roads.
Ridgeline also has far more interior room for linebackers than the Taco.
https://www.motortrend.com/cars/chevrol ... omparison/
That's a decent read. It all depends on what you want to do with the truck. Daily driving, carrying around a mountain bike, trips to costco, and the occasional gravel road to a trailhead the Ridgeline would be a nice but ugly pick. Rock crawling and hauling, work truck stuff, the other entries are better.
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Was looking for this...Johnny_P wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 12:03 pmRidgeline should get better fuel economy, likely only marginal though.max225 wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 11:38 am I don’t see the ridgeline vs taco advantage due to the frame sitch... I mean the taco is about the same weight ... has about the same power, close to the same price. It’s more like a preference at this point. The ridgeswine probably gets better mpg but it is also wrong wheel drive
Full time AWD is likely better for most people most of the time than manually selectable RWD/4WD systems. The latter obviously superior for off roading.
Ridgeline has coil spring independent rear suspension. So it will guaranteed drive better on normal roads.
Ridgeline also has far more interior room for linebackers than the Taco.
https://www.motortrend.com/cars/chevrol ... omparison/
That's a decent read. It all depends on what you want to do with the truck. Daily driving, carrying around a mountain bike, trips to costco, and the occasional gravel road to a trailhead the Ridgeline would be a nice but ugly pick. Rock crawling and hauling, work truck stuff, the other entries are better.
Pretty interesting how close they all are even considering the different lay outs.
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Yep. Pick one based on what’s important to you. None are bad.max225 wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 12:07 pmWas looking for this...Johnny_P wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 12:03 pm
Ridgeline should get better fuel economy, likely only marginal though.
Full time AWD is likely better for most people most of the time than manually selectable RWD/4WD systems. The latter obviously superior for off roading.
Ridgeline has coil spring independent rear suspension. So it will guaranteed drive better on normal roads.
Ridgeline also has far more interior room for linebackers than the Taco.
https://www.motortrend.com/cars/chevrol ... omparison/
That's a decent read. It all depends on what you want to do with the truck. Daily driving, carrying around a mountain bike, trips to costco, and the occasional gravel road to a trailhead the Ridgeline would be a nice but ugly pick. Rock crawling and hauling, work truck stuff, the other entries are better.
Pretty interesting how close they all are even considering the different lay outs.