Car Talk 5: The Juice is Loose!
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:25 pm
I drove a V6 Charger for 8 days when my Mk6 was totaled and it was...ok I guess? Was not a fanmax225 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:08 pmAs long as you’re under 80” and 240” it’s perfectly fine. Turning the wheel ? Life isn’t a race track most roads are straight af, you encounter what ? .2 Gs tops by adhering to speed limits? Not saying it’s FUN, but we share the road with garbage trucks, vehicles with trailers semis, rvs etc.troyguitar wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:54 pm
I find it nothing but stressful to be in a giant unresponsive barge that flops my ass to and fro when I turn the wheel and I have no need to lord myself over everyone else on the road. Parking is a huge pain too.
I think you’d be surprised how relaxing it is to drive a barge down the street vs something anus shattering that splits a wheel by hitting an ant. I’d seriously like to understand what is stressful about driving a large comfortable vehicle. (In most environments outside of NYC and SF)
As clearly indicated no where did I state it was fun. I specifically stated that it was relaxing. yes parking my 212" taco in my garage requires more concentration than my 152" mini, however driving the taco is FAR more relaxing. The argument is not whether a Charger is worse of a car than a Golf, butwap wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:27 pmI drove a V6 Charger for 8 days when my Mk6 was totaled and it was...ok I guess? Was not a fanmax225 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:08 pm
As long as you’re under 80” and 240” it’s perfectly fine. Turning the wheel ? Life isn’t a race track most roads are straight af, you encounter what ? .2 Gs tops by adhering to speed limits? Not saying it’s FUN, but we share the road with garbage trucks, vehicles with trailers semis, rvs etc.
I think you’d be surprised how relaxing it is to drive a barge down the street vs something anus shattering that splits a wheel by hitting an ant. I’d seriously like to understand what is stressful about driving a large comfortable vehicle. (In most environments outside of NYC and SF)
Re the bolded, I'd only answer parking the bitch. I never parked it in my garage and pulling or backing into a spot at work took more concentration than an egg.
It's not fine for me. My first car was a Buick. My last car was a Lincoln. I've spent a lot of time driving various Suburbans, full-size vans, RV's, and a minivan or two. I find it absolutely nerve-wracking to drive big shit. The margins for error are so much smaller and you have no feedback or responsiveness to help you act within those margins.max225 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:08 pmAs long as you’re under 80” and 240” it’s perfectly fine. Turning the wheel ? Life isn’t a race track most roads are straight af, you encounter what ? .2 Gs tops by adhering to speed limits? Not saying it’s FUN, but we share the road with garbage trucks, vehicles with trailers semis, rvs etc.troyguitar wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:54 pm
I find it nothing but stressful to be in a giant unresponsive barge that flops my ass to and fro when I turn the wheel and I have no need to lord myself over everyone else on the road. Parking is a huge pain too.
I think you’d be surprised how relaxing it is to drive a barge down the street vs something anus shattering that splits a wheel by hitting an ant. I’d seriously like to understand what is stressful about driving a large comfortable vehicle. (In most environments outside of NYC and SF)
That last argument certainly applies to the first cities in the union but the vast majority of this country was built with giant cars in mind. We’re not in communist Europe after all.troyguitar wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:45 pmIt's not fine for me. My first car was a Buick. My last car was a Lincoln. I've spent a lot of time driving various Suburbans, full-size vans, RV's, and a minivan or two. I find it absolutely nerve-wracking to drive big shit. The margins for error are so much smaller and you have no feedback or responsiveness to help you act within those margins.max225 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:08 pm
As long as you’re under 80” and 240” it’s perfectly fine. Turning the wheel ? Life isn’t a race track most roads are straight af, you encounter what ? .2 Gs tops by adhering to speed limits? Not saying it’s FUN, but we share the road with garbage trucks, vehicles with trailers semis, rvs etc.
I think you’d be surprised how relaxing it is to drive a barge down the street vs something anus shattering that splits a wheel by hitting an ant. I’d seriously like to understand what is stressful about driving a large comfortable vehicle. (In most environments outside of NYC and SF)
Driving around just in our neighborhood is already annoying in a small car when you've got acoming the other way and more
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parked along both sides of the roads which were built 150 years ago for horses.
Asmax225 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:30 pmAs clearly indicated no where did I state it was fun. I specifically stated that it was relaxing. yes parking my 212" taco in my garage requires more concentration than my 152" mini, however driving the taco is FAR more relaxing. The argument is not whether a Charger is worse of a car than a Golf, butclearly stated that he encounters more STRESS driving bigger vehicles without body hugging seats and big anti sway bars that prevent roll etc. Trying to understand
in normal operating conditions.
That’s only if you try to drive a Charger like a GTIwap wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:12 pmAsmax225 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:30 pm
As clearly indicated no where did I state it was fun. I specifically stated that it was relaxing. yes parking my 212" taco in my garage requires more concentration than my 152" mini, however driving the taco is FAR more relaxing. The argument is not whether a Charger is worse of a car than a Golf, butclearly stated that he encounters more STRESS driving bigger vehicles without body hugging seats and big anti sway bars that prevent roll etc. Trying to understand
in normal operating conditions.
said above, no feedback, wallowy in curves, less margin for error, corners way out in the distance make placing the car where you want it more challenging.
They are
max225 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:08 pmAs long as you’re under 80” and 240” it’s perfectly fine. Turning the wheel ? Life isn’t a race track most roads are straight af, you encounter what ? .2 Gs tops by adhering to speed limits? Not saying it’s FUN, but we share the road with garbage trucks, vehicles with trailers semis, rvs etc.troyguitar wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:54 pm
I find it nothing but stressful to be in a giant unresponsive barge that flops my ass to and fro when I turn the wheel and I have no need to lord myself over everyone else on the road. Parking is a huge pain too.
I think you’d be surprised how relaxing it is to drive a barge down the street vs something anus shattering that splits a wheel by hitting an ant. I’d seriously like to understand what is stressful about driving a large comfortable vehicle. (In most environments outside of NYC and SF)
As someone who drove a few SUV's in my household from time to time, I found the wrangler to be most stressful on the highway, especially in Mexico where drivers does not give a flying fuck about cutting you off and guns their VW Gol or the like the second they see your turn signal into their lane. The expedition EL (aka Ford's Suburban), I feel fine driving it as long as I won't drive like an asshat nor pretend it's a GTI, parking is a different storyD Griff wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 6:14 pm I am withhere. I find driving the
is significantly more stressful than the
and I am therefor less comfy, despite it riding way better and being far more couch like.
I have almost 100K logged in a Bang Bus, I can do it better than many people, but it still sucks.
I've only ever owned GTI's, a Scirocco, and a hot rodded Beetle.
electrics are definitely not making it any better other than probably to decrease co2 emissions. I know it costs the environment more to make prius's than any other gasoline/diesel vehicles. There are obviously a better alternative from a consumer perspective and convenience, like oil change and gas. But for roadtrips on the other hand, not so much convenient despite tesla has atleast 250 electric stations.D Griff wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:37 pmI'm not 100% opted in yet...max225 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:16 pm
You can always have a new Tesla roadster for 250k
Rivian is starting to make decent looking stuff too...
Lucid apparently finished their fucktory
Electric cars are just getting started. First gasoline cars were carriages with a motor ... it will evolve over time.
Do we have enough raw materials for batteries to replace the huge volume of ICE vehicles?
Will those materials still be affordable if demand goes up 20X?
Is electric really better for the planet? (this really depends on where you live)
I have zero interest in electric so far, we shall see what comes in the future, but I will likely be sticking with old shit as long as I can as I just like it better.
That's something I'd agree on, but I also live in an area where parking spaces are narrower than most of the country. It's a matter of getting used to.wap wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:27 pmI drove a V6 Charger for 8 days when my Mk6 was totaled and it was...ok I guess? Was not a fanmax225 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:08 pm
As long as you’re under 80” and 240” it’s perfectly fine. Turning the wheel ? Life isn’t a race track most roads are straight af, you encounter what ? .2 Gs tops by adhering to speed limits? Not saying it’s FUN, but we share the road with garbage trucks, vehicles with trailers semis, rvs etc.
I think you’d be surprised how relaxing it is to drive a barge down the street vs something anus shattering that splits a wheel by hitting an ant. I’d seriously like to understand what is stressful about driving a large comfortable vehicle. (In most environments outside of NYC and SF)
Re the bolded, I'd only answer parking the bitch. I never parked it in my garage and pulling or backing into a spot at work took more concentration than an egg.