Car Talk 2: Un-American Motor Company.

[Calvinball]

Been crunching the numbers on if I get this job or not...

If I do, may get the axe. 50 mi/day @ 17-18 MPG will get real old, real quick.

Looking at one of these if the is right.

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[troyguitar]

I just can't bring myself to do such an awful thing.

So you spend $15k on a and more every month on insurance in order to upgrade from 17 mpg on 87 to 24 mpg on 93?

[troyguitar]

So you spend $15k on a and more every month on insurance in order to upgrade from 17 mpg on 87 to 24 mpg on 93?

I should trade the CRV in for a Prius, rip out the rear seats, have just as much utility and get dat gas mileage.

You wouldn't even need to, current Prius is 65 cu ft with rear seats down. CRV has to be about the same, maybe 70?

[troyguitar]

So you spend $15k on a and more every month on insurance in order to upgrade from 17 mpg on 87 to 24 mpg on 93?

24 MPG?



30-32 hwy MPG (verified real world numbers) on regular. Newest VW 1.8T runs on regular.

I assumed sitting in traffic because NJ. The really only does 17 on open highway?

[troyguitar]

You wouldn't even need to, current Prius is 65 cu ft with rear seats down. CRV has to be about the same, maybe 70?

73 iirc?

Depends on the year, but it's gotta be in that neighborhood. Different shaped cargo area but about the same volume. Prius is long and CRV is fat

[Calvinball]

Depends on the year, but it's gotta be in that neighborhood. Different shaped cargo area but about the same volume. Prius is long and CRV is fat

09. I probably should just stick with it. It's paid off and beat up so value is minimal.

You would probably need to own the Prius for many many years before the fuel savings made up for the costs of getting it over a paid-off car.


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[troyguitar]

09. I probably should just stick with it. It's paid off and beat up so value is minimal.

You would probably need to own the Prius for many many years before the fuel savings made up for the costs of getting it over a paid-off car.


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Probably 400k miles to break even.

[Calvinball]

You would probably need to own the Prius for many many years before the fuel savings made up for the costs of getting it over a paid-off car.


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Probably 400k miles to break even.

I did the math for same brand comparisons (base civic vs hybrid civic) many years ago on a blog [user not found] and I had.

I think the closest one was like 190k miles before the hybrid version worked in your favor.


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[troyguitar]

Probably 400k miles to break even.

I did the math for same brand comparisons (base civic vs hybrid civic) many years ago on a blog [user not found] and I had.

I think the closest one was like 190k miles before the hybrid version worked in your favor.


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Yeah and that's buying new vs new, trading a used car in vs buying a new hybrid it's probably 400k miles or more - you really never break even.

[fledonfoot]

I assumed sitting in traffic because NJ. The really only does 17 on open highway?

Nah, no traffic. Total commute of 25.9 miles one way, 23.6 of it is 295 S.

Traffic doesn't start until south of 73, down towards where 295/676/42/55 meet.

And yeah, unless I'm doing 60, does 17-18 on the open highway. If I'm doing 60-65, I can maybe eke out 20-21.

And even then, I hit the “traffic” from 73 south to the bridge, then 95 by the airport. Traffic is heavy but still does 65-80 mph. It’s not til I hit the blue route where it’s two lanes and 15 mph for eight miles.

[troyguitar]

I assumed sitting in traffic because NJ. The really only does 17 on open highway?

Nah, no traffic. Total commute of 25.9 miles one way, 23.6 of it is 295 S.

Traffic doesn't start until south of 73, down towards where 295/676/42/55 meet.

And yeah, unless I'm doing 60, does 17-18 on the open highway. If I'm doing 60-65, I can maybe eke out 20-21.

Damn, I figured a furrin' with no V8 would do better than that.

[troyguitar]

Max says gas is free and the doesn't depreciate - plus you bros seem to "need" them. Is there really a savings in buying a new German Depreciation Machine?

[troyguitar]

I got rid of my V8 S4 to commute in a Vibe so I understand the idea, but that was from a $15k car to a $6k car with the same cargo capabilities and 120 miles a day for a commute.

It's hard to save money on a new car.

[troyguitar]

I got rid of my V8 S4 to commute in a Vibe so I understand the idea, but that was from a $15k car to a $6k car with the same cargo capabilities and 120 miles a day for a commute.

It's hard to save money on a new car.

I love the SS as a commuter but it ain't cheap.

That's the flip side - If you're going to almost spend more waking hours per day in your car than you do in your house, perhaps it's worth spending enough to enjoy it... I don't miss the or the but I do miss the S4.

[troyguitar]

That all being said the kinda sucks on a perfectly smooth highway where traffic is moving at 80 MPH.

[Desertbreh]

CRV is going to need a new alternator soon.

Don't wait around for that shit you'll be stranded.

[wap]

I just can't bring myself to do such an awful thing.

[troyguitar]

CRV is going to need a new alternator soon.

Don't wait around for that shit you'll be stranded.

That's why I just put a starter in the Vibe. It might have lasted another 4 years, but that thing was cranking super slowly in the cold and it made me nervous. 3 bolts and like $89, Japanese cars are nice.

[CorvetteWaxer]

I got rid of my V8 S4 to commute in a Vibe so I understand the idea, but that was from a $15k car to a $6k car with the same cargo capabilities and 120 miles a day for a commute.

It's hard to save money on a new car.

I love the SS as a commuter but it ain't cheap.

Same with the 1LE and Z06 here. Getting 12-16 MPG on my 150 mile round trip commute is brutal, but I am willing to deal with it since the upsides of these cars is great.

[Apex]

Been crunching the numbers on if I get this job or not...

If I do, may get the axe. 50 mi/day @ 17-18 MPG will get real old, real quick.

Bro-Forks only gets 17-18 highway? Dang... My V8 F150 on 33's would do 20+ at 75.

I miss the fuck out of that

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Been crunching the numbers on if I get this job or not...

If I do, may get the axe. 50 mi/day @ 17-18 MPG will get real old, real quick.

Bro-Forks only gets 17-18 highway? Dang... My V8 F150 on 33's would do 20+ at 75.

I miss the fuck out of that

[Apex]

Bro-Forks only gets 17-18 highway? Dang... My V8 F150 on 33's would do 20+ at 75.

I miss the fuck out of that

I'm no at

[ChrisoftheNorth]

I'm no at

My 2016 Silverado with V6, cylinder deactivation, and stock tires would do 22 at 75. That's probably the best a truck can do. Older trucks never cracked 20, unless going 55 on flat road or something.

My ZR2 is the same as [user not found]'s (18ish), but that thing has no thought for aero at all.

[Johnny_P]

I assumed sitting in traffic because NJ. The really only does 17 on open highway?

Nah, no traffic. Total commute of 25.9 miles one way, 23.6 of it is 295 S.

Traffic doesn't start until south of 73, down towards where 295/676/42/55 meet.

And yeah, unless I'm doing 60, does 17-18 on the open highway. If I'm doing 60-65, I can maybe eke out 20-21.

295 should stay mostly open I think. Traffic where it hits Gloucester is expected. How many miles are on the truck?
Yeah you'll pay more in gas on the truck but depreciation, even with higher miles, is lower than the Sportwagen.
13,000 miles per year commuting, give or take
@ 20 MPG on regular at $2.25/gal you're at $1,462
@ 31 MPG on premium at $3.00/gal you're at $1,258
The pay off would take forever.

What are the requirements? We haven't had someone in a little while. Back seat for doggo? Doors? Trunk space? Bike carrying ability?

[Johnny_P]

Bro-Forks only gets 17-18 highway? Dang... My V8 F150 on 33's would do 20+ at 75.

I miss the fuck out of that

my 4.6L mod motor F150 RWD got 17 highway, maaaaaaaybe 19 if you ed the f outta it.