Car Talk 1: Passengers matter

[Desertbreh]

I don't quite understand this. How is 80 (advertised) hp not a real performance difference? And it's not just a GTI with a tune. The factory has mods to the engine that support that power bump. What other car will take you 0-60 in 4.5 seconds for less than $40K? I don't know whether R brakes are better than power pack.

The extra weight and drivetrain loss means that the GTI isn't much slower outside of the AWD launch advantage.

Combined with all weather functionality (for me, that would be skiing) I guess its worth it to me just because of the total versatility of the car. And yeah when talking used there are other options just staying new.

[max225]

I suppose, however it is hard to justify though... other than AWD there is no real performance/bodywork difference between the car.

The Z06/GS adds giant brakes /bodykit bigger tires etc... for an extra 10%
GTI/R are basically the same and the price differencial is FAR larger at 30%

I don't quite understand this. How is 80 (advertised) hp not a real performance difference? And it's not just a GTI with a tune. The factory has mods to the engine that support that power bump. What other car will take you 0-60 in 4.5 seconds for less than $40K? I don't know whether R brakes are better than power pack.

Same brakes...
Also I did some research it seems there is almost no power difference between the two 2.0 power variants, the AWD must rob some power...

The 0-60 difference comes from the AWD launch. I doubt there is any performance difference 5-100 or whatever. Because of the added weight etc.

Don't get me wrong ... i love the R... but it is just so much god damn money, and the GTI is DAMN good.

[Desertbreh]

I would DCT too, NFG. Just mash the gas and hold on.

[max225]

I would DCT too, NFG. Just mash the gas and hold on.

The DSGAY is very good, and the manual golf R is almost a full second slower to 60

[troyguitar]

I didn't find AWD to matter when both cars had good tires

I don't ski - internal combustion is a better power source than gravity.

I'd probably just get a 180 hp civic hatch at this point if I had to buy a new hatch. Otherwise BMW 230i for $35k and forget about the hatch.

[max225]

I want to test drive one to make sure... I am not just talking out of my ass though... The last gen R was utterly underwhelming... compared to say a GTI and even my TDI

[wap]

10/09. September!!! It's an Oktoberfest fuck up!!

That's it!!!

Not only is it an Octoberfest car, it's also a super early US spec MK6. So they were drunk AND what they were doing.

People often forget that the Mk6 came out in 2009 in Europe so they were probably manufacturing them since late 2008.

[max225]

I didn't find AWD to matter when both cars had good tires

I don't ski - internal combustion is a better power source than gravity.

I'd probably just get a 180 hp civic hatch at this point if I had to buy a new hatch. Otherwise BMW 230i for $35k and forget about the hatch.

I am not doing another useless coupe... I want 4 doors. Maybe 330i... but meh...

[troyguitar]

I didn't find AWD to matter when both cars had good tires

I don't ski - internal combustion is a better power source than gravity.

I'd probably just get a 180 hp civic hatch at this point if I had to buy a new hatch. Otherwise BMW 230i for $35k and forget about the hatch.

I am not doing another useless coupe... I want 4 doors. Maybe 330i... but meh...

I don't haul around my linebacker buddies from the steakhouse to the bar to the strip club, so NFG on doors or rear legroom. In the past 5 years I might have had rear seat passengers like 3 times. Maybe 4?

[Desertbreh]

I want to test drive one to make sure... I am not just talking out of my ass though... The last gen R was utterly underwhelming... compared to say a GTI and even my TDI

Yeah I agree with all of your value arguments. Just with really good skiing so close, I wouldn't deny myself AWD. I mean, you have a one car garage, and overpaying for a one vehicle solution can be justified by avoiding dual vehicle costs.

The other option is the JKU, but the R is 30X funner to drive the rest of the year.

[max225]

I am not doing another useless coupe... I want 4 doors. Maybe 330i... but meh...

I don't haul around my linebacker buddies from the steakhouse to the bar to the strip club, so NFG on doors or rear legroom. In the past 5 years I might have had rear seat passengers like 3 times. Maybe 4?

Steakhouse to bar to stripclub sounds like a great night

[troyguitar]

I don't haul around my linebacker buddies from the steakhouse to the bar to the strip club, so NFG on doors or rear legroom. In the past 5 years I might have had rear seat passengers like 3 times. Maybe 4?

Steakhouse to bar to stripclub sounds like a great night

Sounds like a way to waste $1000, get your car covered in vomit, then lose your license with a DUI.

[max225]

Steakhouse to bar to stripclub sounds like a great night

Sounds like a way to waste $1000, get your car covered in vomit, then lose your license with a DUI.

Also have some great food, get wasted and have fun fondling some

Always two sides to the coin

[Desertbreh]

Steakhouse to bar to stripclub sounds like a great night

Sounds like a way to waste $1000, get your car covered in vomit, then lose your license with a DUI.

@Detroit. Our cousin Troy from Aberdeen, of the Aberdeen Funsponges.

[troyguitar]

In other news, apparently it's possible to get a 5.125 final drive gear set for the S2000 plus swap the AP2 trans into an AP1.

9000 RPM in 2nd gear at like 52 mph.

[max225]

Sounds like a way to waste $1000, get your car covered in vomit, then lose your license with a DUI.

@Detroit. Our cousin Troy from Aberdeen, of the Aberdeen Funsponges.

Damn District 11 fucks...

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Sounds like a way to waste $1000, get your car covered in vomit, then lose your license with a DUI.

@Detroit. Our cousin Troy from Aberdeen, of the Aberdeen Funsponges.

Welcome, cuz.

[max225]

Can we tag ppl or nah...?

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Can we tag ppl or nah...?

Some say yes, but I have yet to see proof of it so I'm going with nah.

[SAWCE]

Can we tag ppl or nah...?

Some say yes, but I have yet to see proof of it so I'm going with nah.

I've gotten notifications for mentions before, but not sure how they do it.

[troyguitar]

Seriously, how often do you guys have anyone sitting in your back seats?

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Seriously, how often do you guys have anyone sitting in your back seats?

Not enough for me to require a 4-door, that's for sure.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Not to mention, no back seats means someone else drives.

[max225]

Seriously, how often do you guys have anyone sitting in your back seats?

Often enough about once a week.

one can make endless compromises ... and you end up in an Ariel atom...

[max225]

Not to mention, no back seats means someone else drives.

You have 2 other 4 door door vehicles You don't even drive the C5....